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  • #41
    spiral actually you need definition not explanation hehehehe
    I'm a monstrous mass of vile, foul & corrupted matter.

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    • #42
      ok, definition

      I said explanation and not definition, because I'm sure people have different understandings of what the "soul" is.

      so what's your 'definition'?

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      • #43
        I am so sorry but i am not a spiritual nor religious person who trys to define or reconstract spirit or soul...It is more complex than any metaphysic.But i think it's something that drives our mind yet there is something beyond mind... in one word it's mystery...no logic, no reason just faith...and faith is substance of things hoped for...there are things that don't have definitions,and it doesnt mean they don't exist...and it's not something supernatural, it's part of us..have u ever heard of positive energy or negative person?we all have some kind of aura..and it's very unique,probably soul is there?who knows?
        I'm a monstrous mass of vile, foul & corrupted matter.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by sleuth I am so sorry but i am not a spiritual nor religious person who trys to define or reconstract spirit or soul...It is more complex than any metaphysic.But i think it's something that drives our mind yet there is something beyond mind... in one word it's mystery...no logic, no reason just faith...and faith is substance of things hoped for...there are things that don't have definitions,and it doesnt mean they don't exist...and it's not something supernatural, it's part of us..have u ever heard of positive energy or negative person?we all have some kind of aura..and it's very unique,probably soul is there?who knows?
          Nor am I a spiritual or religious person.

          However if we cannot define (I used explain) “soul”, than how do we have a mutual understanding of what it is?

          And if we do not, and cannot have a mutual understanding of what it is, then what’s the point of an argument?

          It’s like if one person is discussing bananas, and the other hoola hoops - together.


          There are explanations to what "soul" is, it's simply the matter of differing ideas.

          and none is more valid / invalid than the other.

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          • #45
            I think that in general we should all consider on how well we are versed on the purity of language. The quality of life in any society is reflected in the quality of our perceptions of reality. Thus we must have as clear an understanding of reality as it is possible to have. However, the problem is that language is fungible by nature. It is inherently imprecise, always an abstraction of and different from the reality we want words to represent. Words will always have a certain fuzziness to them, and relativists will always jump on this elasticity to support their claims. In other words we can make everything relative since the words can be made pliable. That does not mean there is no universal truth, it only means that whatever that truth is, it eludes us, for humans are limited and our intelligence is finite, thus words are just designed to hide these realities in abstractions.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #46
              very true.

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              • #47
                spiral if you are so smart to understand ,that there is no valid point, why did you ask to explain soul or define it in first place.I just couldn't get that...as i said above soul is a mystery ..that's my definatin..and it dosen't mean if it's mystery it doesnt exist...faith is the evidence of things unseen...some ppl have faith,some don't...and there is no right or wrong,it's matter of choice.... am pretty sure you can explain what is eye,but are you able to explain why we need to have 2 eyes?well it's easy to nod and say "'very true""....KEEP IT UP

                That does not mean there is no universal truth, it only means that whatever that truth is, it eludes us, for humans are limited and our intelligence is finite, thus words are just designed to hide these realities in abstractions
                Anon ditto there,there is only one thing i want to add...humans are limited in time and space as well,and that makes even more dificult for searching the truth..( i have strange feeling ,that WE elude from truth)
                I'm a monstrous mass of vile, foul & corrupted matter.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by sleuth spiral if you are so smart to understand ,that there is no valid point, why did you ask to explain soul or define it in first place.I just couldn't get that...as i said above soul is a mystery ..that's my definatin..and it dosen't mean if it's mystery it doesnt exist...faith is the evidence of things unseen...some ppl have faith,some don't...and there is no right or wrong,it's matter of choice.... am pretty sure you can explain what is eye,but are you able to explain why we need to have 2 eyes?well it's easy to nod and say "'very true""....KEEP IT UP
                  oh shut up.

                  I asked for their "definition" of soul, because they kept on arguing back and forth, about something which they seemingly do not have a mutual understanding of.

                  Now, as you said some things are not explicable, however, your understanding of 'soul' may be much more complex than anothers'. Their's may be explicable and not so 'deep'.

                  It's all based on impression and perception.


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                  -an issue I would like to address towards the forum.

                  Everyone is so caught up in criticizing and judging eachother, in what seems to be an effort to feel superior over one-another.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by spiral

                    -an issue I would like to address towards the forum.

                    Everyone is so caught up in criticizing and judging eachother, in what seems to be an effort to feel superior over one-another.
                    Quiet you, youre guilty of the same thing.
                    Achkerov kute.

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                    • #50
                      anon yes u r right..spiral you are typical armo girl..no wonder i like to fry your EGO lol..look at you the way you talk hahahah shut upp ..well thats the right word when you have nothing to say but critisizing...u r the one who critisized in firts place..so shush::::
                      I'm a monstrous mass of vile, foul & corrupted matter.

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