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  • arabaliozian
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    Monday, December 31, 2007
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    QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
    ON TURKISH DENIALISM
    & RELATED ATROCITIES
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    Q: How should we treat Turkish denialism?
    A: With understanding. We should not speak of them as if they were bloodthirsty savages.
    Q: But isn’t genocide a quintessentially bloodthirsty crime against humanity?
    A: Yes, of course. But we should ascribe that crime where it belongs, namely, to their share of ruffians and cutthroats…and I hope you will agree with me when I say that all nations, including the most civilized, have their share of rapists and serial killers.
    Q: Isn’t it equally true that not all nations deny their crimes against humanity?
    A: Let us not confuse nations with regimes, and regimes with the people. We should not ascribe Turkish denialism to the nation or the people but to the foreign policy and educational system of the present regime. If many Turks reject the charge of genocide, it may be because most Turks, like most people, are dupes whose worldview is shaped by propaganda as opposed to rules imposed on us by objective judgment.
    Q: If I understand you correctly, you are saying, Turks may plead not guilty by reason of ignorance?
    A: What I am also saying, collective ignorance or patriotic bias is not an exclusively Turkish aberration.
    Q: You also seem to be saying all nations and all people are more or less alike. In which case I must ask, how do we explain the fact that Turks are guilty of genocide but Armenians are not?
    A: We explain it by saying, that is not a result of moral superiority but of military inferiority.
    Q: On a related topic: you speak of Ottomanized Armenians. Could you define Ottomanization for us?
    A: I would define it as the assimilation of Ottoman cultural values, such as the adoption of extreme views, even when these views are against our own interests. Case in point: our refusal to engage in dialogue with those who disagree with us, or to interpret disagreement as an expression of hostility or even hatred. Another case in point would be our painting Turks all black and Armenians all white thus undermining our own credibility in the eyes of the world. No one in his right mind believes Armenians are or could ever be all white for the simple reason that even saints are not all white.
    Q: Final question: How do we go about de-Ottomanizing ourselves?
    A: That’s almost like asking how do we de-programme a brainwashed person? There are no easy answers or methods. Education would be one way. Etiquette would be another. Suppose you believe in something with every single fiber in your body but you are not sure if your interlocutor shares your belief. If you make an assertion based on your belief and introduce or end it with the qualifier, I may be wrong about this, you may consider yourself de-Ottomanized as well as de-Stalinized.
    Q: Why is it that a great many Armenians disagree with you?
    A: If they do, it may be because I am wrong.
    Q: Practicing what you preach?
    A: That’s the very least I can do.
    Q: I wish you a happy and creative New Year.
    A: I too wish you all the best. May all your dreams come true!
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  • arabaliozian
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    Sunday, December 30, 2007
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    DAVID ANHAGHT
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    As children we were taught that Armenian philosopher David Anhaght (6th century AD) was called “Invincible” because he never lost an argument. What were the central ideas of his philosophy? Did he support freedom or obedience to authority? Who gave him that sobriquet – his students or disciples? Why is it that he is not mentioned in any text on the history of philosophy – not even in a footnote? What was his favorite method of winning arguments -- quoting Plato, Aristotle, and the Scriptures? Raising his voice? Attacking his adversary’s ideas or person? Finally and most important of all: what’s the merit in winning an argument in defense of false ideas?
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    An organized religion becomes idolatry when obedience to God evolves to subservience to men who speak in His name?
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    If a messiah were to appear among us today, I suspect one of his most important messages to the world will be: “Verily I say unto you: When a man speaks in the name of God, it is the words of the Devil that issue from his mouth.”
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  • arabaliozian
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    Saturday, December 29, 2007
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    FEEDBACK
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    “If genocide means the systematic extermination of a nation, how come you are still around?” a Turkish reader wants to know.
    No matter how systematic and efficiently carried out, a genocide is seldom successful. Even the Germans, the most efficient and systematic of nations, failed to exterminate xxxs and Gypsies.
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    Another Turkish reader writes: “The Turks are too sloppy a people to have organized and carried out a policy of systematic extermination.”
    It is equally true that Armenians are too divided to agree on anything. And yet, not only they agree on the reality of the genocide, they have also been successful in convincing an important fraction of the world to agree with them.
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    My quarrel with our genocide pundits is not that they misrepresent reality but that they live in the past. “Let the dead bury their dead,” we are told, especially at a time when the living are dying.
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    To speak of Armenians only in the context of massacres: is that not a misrepresentation? Or, as Gramsci points out somewhere: Why would anyone care about a people known only as victims?
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    It is easy to make enemies, much more difficult to make friends. Our challenge is to convert our enemies to friends, and not to convert our brothers to enemies.
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    Civility and patriotism are not mutually exclusive concepts. Rules of civilized conduct apply even to superpatriots. So do rules of logic, common sense and decency. To say otherwise is to equate patriotism with barbarism.
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  • arabaliozian
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    Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
    really? wow. Where?
    in India.

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  • jgk3
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    Originally posted by arabaliozian View Post
    Speaking of theory and practice, I read the following headline in our paper this morning: “Hindu Hardliners burn Christian churches, Christians retaliate and burn Hindu homes.”
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    really? wow. Where?

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  • arabaliozian
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    Friday, December 28, 2007
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    THEORY & PRACTICE
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    The combined wisdom of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle has been wasted on the Greeks. Greek history is a disaster area. The divided city-states of Greece were at each other’s throats for centuries until they were conquered and mongrelized by, among others, the Turks.
    What remains of Buddha’s wisdom in countries like India, China, Korea, and Japan? Mostly superstition and ritual (for more details, see Arthur Koestler’s THE LOTUS & THE ROBOT).
    Individual wisdom does not always translate to political know-how for a very simple reason: the pursuit of wisdom and greed for power are mutually exclusive concepts and antagonistic movements from which greed for power will invariably emerge the winner.
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    Because I share my understanding, I have become an enemy. A fool will reserve his agreement for men who tell him what he already knows and understands. That’s because, as a fool, he doesn’t understand that knowledge is an endless search.
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    If straight talk offends you, who is to blame but your ego?
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    Speaking of theory and practice, I read the following headline in our paper this morning: “Hindu Hardliners burn Christian churches, Christians retaliate and burn Hindu homes.”
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  • arabaliozian
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    Thursday, December 27, 2007
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    POLITICS 101
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    A regime, any regime, even a regime of swine, will have its supporters.
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    In America today only 50% of the people vote. When asked why he doesn’t vote, a wise man once replied: “I don’t believe in encouraging them.”
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    One thing I have learned about my fellow Armenians and myself: We are human beings like the rest of mankind. Anyone who says we are better is either a brown-noser or a damn fool.
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    Propaganda teaches us to overestimate ourselves and to underestimate our adversaries, which promotes the view that our leaders are shepherds and their leaders butchers. But then, where would butchers be without shepherds?
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    If we are what we have become it’s because of liars whose favorite sport is the blame-game.
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    Self-assessed smart Armenians will never agree with me because agreeing with me would amount to admitting they are fools who have been taken in by liars.
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    After calling them “enemies of the people,” fascist leaders silence their critics. It is always the same story. After confusing fact with fiction they commit unspeakable crimes against humanity with the full support of their dupes. This may explain why there are people today (not all of them Turks) who believe Talaat was a great leader and his victims traitors who deserved their fate. This may also explain why some of the greatest butchers in the history of mankind, from Caligula and Nero to Stalin and Hitler, had their supporters.
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  • arabaliozian
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    Tuesday, December 25, 2007
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    NOTES & COMMENTS
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    To those of my readers who disagree with me, sometimes violently, I say: I hear you. I feel your pain. Once upon a time I too was brainwashed to think, or rather to feel, as you do. To learn to think, to think for oneself, which also means to think against oneself, is a painfully slow process. It takes time. Be patient with yourself and tolerant with those who try to reason with you. Evolution is a law of nature. Never say therefore you will not change, for that way lies stagnation, degeneration, and death.
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    Instead of saying, the great powers deceived us, we should ask, why did we behave like dupes? Instead of saying the Turks massacred us, we should ask ourselves, why did we surrender our fate into their hands for 600 years?
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    A man who is convinced he knows everything he needs to know is a case of arrested underdevelopment.
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    The more you deceive yourself the more transparent you become to others.
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    If you know 100 things and claim to know 101, sooner or later someone is sure to expose you as an ignoramus.
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  • arabaliozian
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    Monday, December 24, 2007
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    “I AM NOT A CROOK”
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    If bad things happen to good people, let us ask ourselves:
    How good are we?
    How good are our “brainless leaders”? (Avedik Issahakian).
    How good are their dupes who believe we never had it so good because we are in good hands?
    How good are the alienated who stay away from Armenian affairs? How good are the assimilated who have given up on us?
    How good are our “best and brightest” who so far have failed to convince the world that our genocide is not a figment of our collective imagination?
    How good are our intellectuals from Khorenatsi and Yeghishe (5th century) to Zarian and Massikian (in our own days) who have been unanimous in saying our leaders can’t even lead a dog to the nearest hydrant?
    How good are our intellectuals and why should be believe them?
    Well, what choice do we have? It’s either them or our politicians?
    Are politicians capable of speaking the truth when they speak about themselves?
    By the way, I don’t agree with Avedik Issahakian. Our leaders are not brainless. After all, they were brainy enough to have a plan B for themselves.
    Believe in God, if you must, but believe no one else. Use your brain instead (if you will forgive the overstatement), and may the Good Lord have mercy on your soul (if you have one).
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  • jgk3
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    Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post

    I don't always agree with what he says, but I like the way he says it - with conviction and without fear and appreciate his right to say it.
    I agree. Of course, his words are very controversial to nationalists, but that doesn't change this.

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