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[arabaliozian]

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Wednesday, July 25, 2007
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ON FORGIVENESS
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Bishop Desmond Tutu in NO FUTURE WITHOUT FORGIVENESS (New York, 1999, page 23): “If the victim could forgive only when the culprit confessed, then the victim would be locked into victimhood.”
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Martin Luther King in a sermon delivered in 1957: “Forgiveness does not mean ignoring what has been done or putting a false label on an evil act. It means, rather, that the evil act no longer remains as a barrier to the relationship.”
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It is not my intention here to advocate forgiving the Turks because I am not in the habit of advocating utopian daydreams. What I am doing is revealing two unfamiliar (to me) aspects of forgiveness that may well be in our self-interest.
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GENERAL ANTRANIK ON NATIONALISM
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“I am not a nationalist. I am on the side of underdogs of all nations.”
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WHAT I KNOW ABOUT OUR GHAZETAJIS*
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What neocons are to the Bush administration, our Turcocentric ghazetajis are to the Armenian nation: they speak hate and war (strike that! I meant to say justice) but when the time comes, they will let others to the fighting for them.
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FOOTNOTE
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*ghazetaji: what paparazzi are to photojournalism, ghazetajis are to journalism.
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[arabaliozian]

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I am not attacking you but that you're not thinking clearly of over criticizing us and then going onto "odar" Forums and criticizing us some more. I don't think at all that this is right.

And read above my notes about how it is better psychologically to give bits and pieces of the good and the bad; then you'll succeed in having more open minded listeners who will favour you more and thus will listen to you better, making your works and deeds more successful for them and for you.

Anoush

I will let you handle the good -- division of labor, yes? you seem to have a good brain. use it! / ara

[Armenian]

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My own nationality is the planet earth and all of mankind. instead of attacking my person you should attack my ideas. / ara

Don't flatter yourself Araik, no one here gives rat's ass about your person, it's your written crap that makes us want to puke. And please, be a good citizen of "planet earth and all of mankind" and get lost from this 'ethnic' discussion board.

Not only do you not have intellect or talent you obviously have no self-pride either.

Like the old saying goes: We spit on your face, you say it's raining...

[Anoush]

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My own nationality is the planet earth and all of mankind.
instead of attacking my person you should attack my ideas. / ara

I am not attacking you but that you're not thinking clearly of over criticizing us and then going onto "odar" Forums and criticizing us some more. I don't think at all that this is right.

And read above my notes about how it is better psychologically to give bits and pieces of the good and the bad; then you'll succeed in having more open minded listeners who will favour you more and thus will listen to you better, making your works and deeds more successful for them and for you.

Anoush

[arabaliozian]

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Any one of these Armenian or "odar" Forums allow you to create another name for yourself; thus if what you said was true then every one of these people were traitors? I think you better think again and speak intelligently if you can.

I used the words traitor to you because you do not go around to our enemies and say some unrealistic adjectives and unrealistically criticizing about your own nationality and your own people to your enemies or nationalities that can use your own Armenian people against them.

Do not be surprised then when most of us including myself would justly call you a traitor; because you are acting like it.

You would unjustly or over criticize your people and you would call that honesty and patriotism??? Think again. You can criticize; but you can also say and stress our good points too. We happen to have them as well you know. In psychology, a human being cannot be told you're stupid, you're malicious, you're bad all the time. Then how and how can you expect that person to act better when you are constantly instilling in him and continuously that he is bad. Then he will start beleiving more and more that he is; even when he is not.

The positive and the right path is to give bits and pieces of the good and the bad; then you'll have a more listened to audience and whom will respect you and will listen to you.

My own nationality is the planet earth and all of mankind.
instead of attacking my person you should attack my ideas. / ara

[Anoush]

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i do not consider being honest treason. on the contrary: lying or being afraid of the truth, i consider cowardly and an act worthy of traitors.

I used the words traitor to you because you should not go around to our enemies and say some unrealistic adjectives and unrealistically criticizing about your own nationality and your own people to your enemies or nationalities that can use your own Armenian people against us.

You would unjustly or over criticize your people and you would call that honesty and patriotism? Think again. You can criticize; but you can also say and stress our good points too. We happen to have them as well you know. But never to "odar" Forums. In psychology; a human being cannot be told you're stupid, you're malicious, you're bad all the time. Then how and how can you expect that person to act better when you are constantly instilling in him continuously that he is bad. Then he will start beleiving more and more that he is; even when he is not.

The positive and the right path is to give bits and pieces of the good and the bad; then you'll have a more listened to audience and whom will respect you and will listen to you for the long haul.

Anoush

[arabaliozian]

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Ara; are you not a coward yourself or simply a traitor when you go to "odar", such as at Jewish Forums to overly and unjustly criticize us Armenians (and your own kind)? Are you trying to brownose Jews; because they hold all the powerful seats and estates of the most powerful and the civilized countries of the world? I truly wonder.

Anoush

i do not consider being honest treason. on the contrary: lying or being afraid of the truth, i consider cowardly and an act worthy of traitors.

[arabaliozian]

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007
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LIES IN POLITICS
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In Robert Dallek’s NIXON AND KISSINGER: PARTNERS IN POWER (New York, 2007) we are told that, as a translator in Germany after World War II, Kissinger learned the following lesson from camp survivors: “Impulses to dwell on past horrors would produce sorrow and self-pity, which were forms of ‘weakness’ that were ‘synonymous with death’” (page 39). Elsewhere Dallek quotes William Safire to the effect that both Nixon and Kissinger were “convinced that consistent lying can be the right thing for the country” (page 615). We are also informed here that they lied not only to the people but also to each other as well as to themselves – by believing in their own ‘image’, which, like all images, bears little relation to reality. This may suggest that in politics, and by extension history, the truth is constantly hidden from us and by the time it is revealed – if at all – it is too late because by then the damage is done and no one on earth has the power to unring the bell or resurrect the dead. As for those who say, perhaps even believe, that all politicians lie except ours: I envy their innocence but I have nothing but contempt for their loyalty, because loyalty to men, when it overrides loyalty to truth, is essentially a fascist concept.
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[Anoush]

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To my gentle readers:
your views will enjoy more authority if you stop hiding behind false names.
no one respects the words of a coward! / ara

Ara; are you not a coward yourself or simply a traitor when you go to "odar", such as at Jewish Forums to overly and unjustly criticize us Armenians (and your own kind)? Are you trying to brownose Jews; because they hold all the powerful seats and estates of the most powerful and the civilized countries of the world? I truly wonder.

Anoush

[arabaliozian]

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Monday, July 23, 2007
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xxxxxES, PIMPS, AND MORONS
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“A war against terrorism such as we have seen is an oxymoron undertaken by morons,” writes Gerry Spence in BLOODTHIRSTY xxxxxES AND PIOUS PIMPS OF POWER (New York, 2006), which in my view is one of the very best books ever written about the conservative movement in America today with particular emphasis on such “talking heads” as Nancy Grace (may she rest in peace), Jerry Falwell (ditto), Ann Coulter, Bill O’Reilly, and Pat Robertson. Elsewhere Spence quotes the following words by Rosa Parks: “People, not governments, bring change.” Further down: “A revolution begins not with guns but with a revolution of thought. A revolution of thought begins with a revolution of knowledge. A revolution of knowledge requires that people be fully informed. But here again we face a nearly impossible obstacle: the media that informs the people is also owned by the corporate King.”
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Only a thoroughly brainwashed Armenian will assert our own leadership has been and continues to be less dogmatic, more tolerant of dissent, and less moronic. Which is why I feel justified in asserting: unless we thoroughly de-Ottomanize and de-Stalinize ourselves, mart bidi ch’ellank.
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