Can women ever lead or teach? A Christian perspective..

[winoman]

I can tell you this much, in the United States Air Force a majority of high-ranking officers (Majors, Colonels, etc...) are women. You see in teh Air Force you need education to gain rank (along with other things of course) and usually women tend to be more scholarly than most men. So as far as the Air Force is concerned, yes, women can and do play leadership and command roles.

Your perceptions are entirely incorrect. Male Air Force Officers outnumber females by a rate of 73% to 27%. As the rank increases this percentage (for males) increases. I still think that 27% is fairly decent considering. I'm not at all sure where your claim of "usually women tend to be more scholarly than most men" comes from. For instance only 100 years ago (and in some places in this country even less) - women often did not attend school past a certain age and certainly were not well represented in colleges and univesities. Women are also certainly - to theis day - very unrepresented in academia - but perhaps that guy from Havard - Summers - has a pat answer for why this is so...

Oh and there are about 3,000 Male Air Force Colonels as compared to 400 Female - nearly 9,000 male Lt Colonels compared to just over 1,000 females - and nearly 13,000 male Majors as compared to just over 2000 females...

Perhaps it is you MOS where you are finding so many females - otherwise I'm really not at all sure where you get such an impression...not that there aren't some fine senior female officers in all of the services - but it is still largely a man's world....

[bell-the-cat]

Actually - and in all seriousness - you are one of the many (OK..at least several) young folks here (and not all of them gals...but mostly...)

Wow! A rare moment of truth from winoman. He has openly admitted why he is here!

[One-Way]

Women belong in the kitchen.













































Ok, it was a joke. Calm down girls

[Ashuri62]

Your perceptions are entirely incorrect. Male Air Force Officers outnumber females by a rate of 73% to 27%. As the rank increases this percentage (for males) increases. I still think that 27% is fairly decent considering. I'm not at all sure where your claim of "usually women tend to be more scholarly than most men" comes from. For instance only 100 years ago (and in some places in this country even less) - women often did not attend school past a certain age and certainly were not well represented in colleges and univesities. Women are also certainly - to theis day - very unrepresented in academia - but perhaps that guy from Havard - Summers - has a pat answer for why this is so...

Oh and there are about 3,000 Male Air Force Colonels as compared to 400 Female - nearly 9,000 male Lt Colonels compared to just over 1,000 females - and nearly 13,000 male Majors as compared to just over 2000 females...

Perhaps it is you MOS where you are finding so many females - otherwise I'm really not at all sure where you get such an impression...not that there aren't some fine senior female officers in all of the services - but it is still largely a man's world....

What i meant by scholarly is that generally (and maybe its just me) but girls are usually more into books and are usually more mature and also smarter than most guys. Guys are usually watching football, drinking beer, and working on their cars.
I realize that women didn't use to always go to school in tha past but i'm talking about the present day.
I'm curiouse as to where you got all those statistics about officers from. Also I wouldnt count on those figures being accurate seeing how the actual numbers are most likely classified. I spoke from my personal experience seeing as to how on my base there are a huge number of female officers. Sure their numbers dwindle as you get higher on the chain but I seem to see them everywhere. All my commanders, excluding my present one, have been female.
I'm not saying there are more female officers than male. There are allot more male officers, but the AF has more female officers than any other branch in the military, and as you know Officers assume a leadership role. I was merely pointing out that it is not un-common for women to be leaders in the AF.

[ArmoBarbi]

Guys, this is silly to debate. Both men and women can be competent or not. It's a question of potential for each person. Its totally unreasonable to say that one must be incompetent simply because of gender. Nothing to fuss over.

[dopey]

Read 1Timothy 2:12-15

12And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.


Yes I do believe what the Bible says...
This is a Christian point of view. The problem is that people think that the word submit is a bad word. The man is not to Lord over his wife like you think. The man is to Love his wife.

Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in every thing.

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

Col 3:19 Husbands, love [your] wives, and be not bitter against them.


But as far as the church is concerned:

1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Biblical Qualifications for Church Leadership:

1Ti 3:1 This [is] a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1Ti 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

[dopey]

when the bible talks about leadership in the Church or the Home- it's always the Man not the Woman--- Women are strong and beutiful- and we man can't be without our beutiful mothers, sisters, and wifes--- God created them for a reason but not for eldership in His church---

[dopey]

By the way-- I have learned all this locked up in the County for 5 years-- Now I am out of Jail-- got a great JOB- and everything is perfect--- My child will be one years old soon and my wife is happy and we are in love---- she knows how I feel and she also feels the same way- this is not sexist--- it's just that the femanaziz hate this teaching and will get mad when they read my posts-- But the Bible is clear- If you cal yourself a Christian- than atleast read it for yourself--- Peace

[TomServo]

Now I am out of Jail--

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[nairi]

No actually men make better chefs! It's a fact...

They're good at cleaning too