The battle over Evolution (continued)

[ArmoBarbi]

If it was a fact it would not be really debatable anymore lol not to mention that it wouldnt be called a theory... Its ok, wino Let people believe what they believe. It doesnt degrade your choice. Why do you waste your nerves fighting them? Be like Galileo

[winoman]

So now you back away from your earlier claim that evolution is fact?

Evolution is (essentially) fact. See above.

I am happy for you that dancing around semantics amuses you/takes the place of having to address real issues...I know you wish not to be exposed....I would feel the same way if my thoughts/positions/beliefs were on such weak foundation.

[Anonymouse]

Evolution is (essentially) fact. See above.

I am happy for you that dancing around semantics amuses you/takes the place of having to address real issues...I know you wish not to be exposed....I would feel the same way if my thoughts/positions/beliefs were on such weak foundation.

No it's not, it's called fanaticism, it's called dogma, but it's not fact, as it is never been proven or established as a law, therefore not knowledge. It is not reproducible or observable. Only someone who has a crack in their edifice of thought will resort to dogmatizing a belief in order to feel secure. Talk about beliefs having weak foundation. ArmoBarbi stated, "I dont know of anyone in this thread who ever claimed that they know 100%, and dont see why you would even bring it up to us. An intelligent person keeps an open mind."

It appears she now has met someone like that.

[ArmoBarbi]

Isnt religion based on dogma???

[Anonymouse]

Isnt religion based on dogma???

Yes, along with evolution.

[ArmoBarbi]

Religion and evolution are not counter parts. When you say "evolution" do you mean the actual process or the theory? Either way: a physical process cant be based on dogma, and I do not think that a theory is based on dogma. "Religion" is not a physical process or a theory. It is in fact nothing but dogma at its core.

"The death of dogma is the birth of reality."

[rabinovich]

No it's not, it's called fanaticism, it's called dogma, but it's not fact, as it is never been proven or established as a law, therefore not knowledge. It is not reproducible or observable.

Wrong. See above posts.
Fanaticism is actually what you are doing...

[Anonymouse]

Wrong. See above posts.
Fanaticism is actually what you are doing...

What am I doing? Questioning evolutions validity as "fact" is being fanatic? What a way to invert meanings so as not to come off dogmatic. What I sense are a few people who cannot stand cracks in belief systems.

[Anonymouse]

Religion and evolution are not counter parts. When you say "evolution" do you mean the actual process or the theory? Either way: a physical process cant be based on dogma, and I do not think that a theory is based on dogma. "Religion" is not a physical process or a theory. It is in fact nothing but dogma at its core.

"The death of dogma is the birth of reality."

When I say evolution I mean the process and the theory as they inseparable. The theory is about the process. When it is dogmatized it is about both. Its unprovable process is part and parcel of the theory. What 'physical process' of evolution have you referred to that is some how not dogmatic? Merriam-Webster states dogma as:

1 a : something held as an established opinion; especially : a definite authoritative tenet b : a code of such tenets <pedagogical dogma> c : a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds

[ArmoBarbi]

I hope you dont use the dictionary method in the court room....

The process (and in your language theory) of evolution can be observed through evidence (and has been in biology, geology, paleontology, etc)

The process of creation cannot be observed through evidence. It is pure hear say - and we all know how far that goes!

Keep in mind that evolution is the only thing being questioned/attacked in this thread - not creation. If we were putting you and your beliefs under pressure you would crack (this is only my BELIEF of course!) I really dont think youre in position to call out cracks in a belief system