Diversity In France!

[Siamanto]

Poor Siamanto. You can't even tell the difference for when I compared you to the schit seeping out of a colostomy bag in this thread, versus your presence in general. In this case, the reference was for your pitiful performance in this thread. Because I have a high regard for your other posts and thoughts, it was a surprise to see you take such a nose dive.

Anonymouse, Still trying to save face? Get over it! "Here" may also mean "this forum." The "Logic" Machine needs a serious tune up!
You remind of Polanski's Tenant.

Don't worry though, you're in luck. I can help you back up out of it.

I see that you're still over inflated with hot air. Please decompress, otherwise it may hurt your health.

[Siamanto]

axel,
This is a public forum/discussion, so please allow me to reply in English. I believe in transparency and having a private conversation may be a form of hiding.

siamanto,

chacun a sa propre représentation des choses issue de sa propre expérience, de ses lectures, de ses observations... c'est l'évidence même.

Of course. If I did not believe in the above, then I would have simply assumed - as you did about who I am - an explanation based on my "experiences, readings and observations," instead of inviting you to explicit yourself.
Please keep in my mind that I was the one accused of tolerating diversity; so please.
Unfortunately, you did not, and continue to hide behind a question of methodology/epistemology, tangential to the subject.
Unfortunately, my questions remain eluded and your gratuitous and surprising "first" post - in this thread remains unexplained. Please share with us some of the knowledge distilled from your "experiences, readings..."
While waiting, thanks!

Also, I wish you kept the above words of yours on your mind when making a parody of others.

l'expérience du terrain n'est pas en soi le gage d'une compréhension des évènements quoique cela aide à formuler des jugements éclairés. en la matière, si de nous deux, il est une personne à qui l'expérience du terrain fait défaut, c'est bien toi. je ne tiens pas à le prouver ici, cela serait puéril.
mais l'expérience elle-même, si elle est un plus, ne compense pas le manque d'intelligence ou d'intuition, lesquels par contre peuvent suppléer à l'absence de la première.

I have already answered to the above and it is not in contradiction with my reply. However, I also added:
"If one does it, then cautious and modesty are necessary. Otherwise, one would take the risk of uttering - at best - nonsense. Worse, combined with prejudice, misinformation and excessive self confidence - as in the case of Anonymouse - it would simply sound like sensationalistic gossip - whether intentional or not."

il n'est pas nécessaire de vivre en france pour exprimer des doutes sur le caractère instable d'une société composée de groupes hétérogènes devenus trop importants par leur poids pour se prêter à une quelconque intégration. et d'ailleurs, en ce qui a trait à la france, intégration à quoi?

If you read carefully the thread, you may notice that that was not what Anonymouse was discussing. I wrote about the integration issues.
Unfortunately - and surprisingly, you came out of nowhere with a quite pompous "discours magistral" that did not necessarily reflect the reality of this thread.
If you did not already, I suggest that you read the thread starting from the first post. Thanks. If you did, your reading surprises me.

au "modèle républicain", ce modèle artificiel auquel personne ne croit et qui a depuis longtemps montré ses limites? la france contemporaine est méprisable en tout point. elle est faible et médiocre. j'ai envie de citer Drieu ou "Citadelle" de St Exupéry. et certains ne s'y trompent pas. si la situation est complexe, si les facteurs sont nombreux, les explications avancées, fondées pour l'essentiel sur les conditions matérielles sont complètement bidons.

This is a much broader discussion. If you are as "experienced" and "mature" as you claim to be, then you should have probably realized that, in real life, it's never about the "perfect" or "ideal" solution; but a "pis aller."
There is a reality and it is what it is. In moments of crisis, I would rather focus on specific problems and deal with existing situations, whether they - both situations and solutions - are "ideal" or not.
Strategically, I would consider focusing on other - more fundamental - aspects; but, so far, you have failed to suggest an alternative to the existing "imperfect" solution.

tu as quelques problèmes d'ego, semble-t-il, comme un certain nombre d'individus sur ces forums. je n'ai pas l'intention de poursuivre ce genre de discussion où le but premier est de se mettre en avant. ce genre de concours à la con ne me correspond pas. je mesure par ailleurs le caractère tout à fait stérile de mes interventions. aussi je mets ici un terme définitif à ma participation.

Reading your posts may give the impression that it may also be the other way around. Can it be that it is simply how you perceive it?
In any case, please stay above it and don't use it as an excuse to avoid explanations. Thanks.

PS si tu as pour ta part quelque courage intellectuel, tu peux toujours tenter de te "confronter" à l'auteur suivant complètement boycotté en france (et il n'est pas le seul) et pour cause (au point qu'il faut aller chercher ses textes dans des milieux plus que marginaux). tu en tireras peut-être quelque profit, quoique tu me sembles peu susceptible d'ouverture d'esprit (et plus à même de t'emballer pour un derrida, un althusser, un bourdieu ou un sartre...).

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/contra_impetum/societes.htm

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/contra_impetum/libre_pensee.htm

Thanks. I will if I have time. For now, I'm here.
As for Derrida, Althusser, Bourdieu or Sartre; you are simply and obviously making - again - wrong and gratuitous assumptions.

[Fadix3]

You seem to have regressed, intellectually and morally, to a level that is faithfully reflected by your avatar and what it personifies i.e. self-indulging ignorance.
You seem to have regressed to a point where you don't even remember what "tautology" means.

Regressed? I think that he's been always that low. It's just that you are realising it just now.

[axel]

I wrote in french because it was easier for me and I didn't have time to write in english. I was more than kind towards you given your overall attitude. You should have responded in french too but you saw the occasion of attacking me (knowing my message wouldn't be understood by others) I never uttered the word "mature" btw. You are a real coward, truly one of the greatest assh-les I've come accross on the net.

[Anonymouse]

Anonymouse, Still trying to save face? Get over it! "Here" may also mean "this forum." The "Logic" Machine needs a serious tune up!
You remind of Polanski's Tenant.


I see that you're still over inflated with hot air. Please decompress, otherwise it may hurt your health.

Ho Ho Ho! Are there any good little kids out there? No? Then, are there any self-absorbed misanthropists preferably from France writing whiny posts on the interweb? Ahh, there is one over there. Siamanto! Failed attempts at wit, elitist to the highest degree, he studied in France, and one of his professors was Jean-François Lyotard so he must be an intellectual. Oh, but wait, it appears that mouse creature has gotten under his skin. No can do. I need to find another self-absorbed elitist who loves France but doesn't let mice make them so touchy.

The Siamanto leaned back from his monitor in miserable frustration. "That mean mouse!" he lamented, punching his childhood teddybear from France® in its tummy, continuing in failure "That horrible mean mouse! He ruined my one shot at being Santa's favorite self-absorbed intellectual!"

[Anonymouse]

Regressed? I think that he's been always that low. It's just that you are realising it just now.

As long as I'm not as low as you I'm fine with that.

[Anonymouse]

I guess when Siamanto replies to axel, changing the name of the person who wrote the original post, from axel to Anonymouse, is one of the hallmarks of creativity taught to him under the post-modernist cirriculum in France. In his mind, it makes him appear witty and creative, since he can't really respond in substance, he figures he will just respond in some clever cute sort of way to deflect from his lack of content. Close but no cigar, you must try harder.

[TomServo]

Isabelle Adjani


Josephine Baker


Jacques Chirac

Yay for diversity!

[Anonymouse]

Yay diversity is our strength!

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Isabelle Adjani is of Algerian-Turkish and German descent.

Nicolas Sarkozy ,probably the next president of France, is not of French origin.

Blaming religion and Islamist group for the riots in Paris would suit just fine many European governments.

Essentially those who are blaming religion or the immigrants are the ''useful idiots'' of the bourgeoise class.

The fact is that Rafaren's, Chirac's and Sarcozi's policies brought this SOCIAL rebellion in France.Many other people of lower classes that financially struggle under these policies will follow and more rebellions are about to follow in Europe in the next decades .