War in The Middle East

[Anonymouse]

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Thread has been cleaned up. Unnecessary posts and rants have been removed. Let's start over and keep the coherence of the topic: War in the Middle East.

[Armenian]

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Thread has been cleaned up. Unnecessary posts and rants have been removed. Let's start over and keep the coherence of the topic: War in the Middle East.

Thanks, you did well. But you should have kept Skhara's post intact. Al-Qaeda, what it is and what it is not, is directly related to this topic of discussion. The powers that be will be trying to mix in Al-Qaeda with Hizbollah and Iran in the comming future in order to set in motion the 911 mind control.

[Armenian]

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Interesting analysis.

Hezbollah missile threat assessed

By Frank Gardner
BBC News, Jerusalem

The impact of more than 300 short-range missiles launched by Hezbollah this week has been felt well beyond the towns and olive groves of northern Israel. After three weeks of an intensive Israeli air campaign in Lebanon, backed in recent days by about 10,000 Israeli troops on the ground, Hezbollah is demonstrating a remarkable resilience.

On Wednesday it sent a record number of missiles (231) into Israel, proving that despite the Israeli military's claims of success this Lebanese militia group remains a threat to northern Israel. As long as that threat remains, Israel's military campaign in Lebanon - codenamed Miftza Shinui Kivun or Operation Change of Direction - will be perceived as a failure.

Easy operation

So how powerful is Hezbollah's arsenal of rockets and missiles and why, ask Israel's citizens, is it taking their military so long to neutralise them? At the start of hostilities on 12 July Hezbollah had an estimated 13,000 missiles, amassed over the six years since Israel withdrew from Lebanon after its controversial 18-year occupation there.

Hezbollah prides itself on being a Lebanese movement, but it also has strong connections to Iran

The Israeli government says a large proportion of this arsenal has been destroyed but that may be wishful thinking on its part. Most of these missiles are relatively crude Soviet-designed Katyushas with a range of 25km.

Although that restricts their target range to only the northernmost towns and villages in Israel they are having a psychological impact on Israelis since they say Hezbollah is packing them with ball bearings that can shred human tissue from some distance. The Katyushas are easy to operate, easy to hide and easy to resupply. Measuring less than two metres long, they can be concealed in orchards or, say the Israelis, among the civilian population in southern Lebanon.

But their small size also means their explosive power is far smaller than that of a Scud missile or indeed of an air-to-ground missile. An estimated 19 Israeli civilians have been killed to date while the Lebanese government says more than 900 of their citizens have been killed, many by Israeli airstrikes.

Hezbollah is also believed to have a smaller number of longer range Fajr-5 missiles with a range of up to 75km, long enough to hit the West Bank but not enough to hit Tel Aviv. The only missile in Hezbollah's arsenal believed to be powerful enough to reach Israel's commercial capital is the Iranian-made Zelzal-2 with a range of 200km and a huge warhead of 400-600kg.

This large missile, which is about eight metres long, is effectively a strategic weapon and Israel has been at pains to destroy any suspected launch sites in Lebanon. Some Israeli military analysts have said that if and when Hezbollah do fire such a weapon it would be a sign of desperation, a last-ditch blow against Israel before it sues for peace.

Iranian connection

Hezbollah prides itself on being a Lebanese movement, but it also has strong connections to Iran. Instructors from the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) have spent long periods in Lebanon, notably in the Bekaa Valley, teaching Hezbollah cadres how to use their weaponry. Likewise, Hezbollah fighters have reportedly spent time in Iran undergoing military training.

One of the most effective weapons deployed by Hezbollah in this conflict has been the Iranian-made C-802 anti-ship missile. A variant of the Chinese Silkworm missile, one of these was successfully fired at an Israeli warship last month, killing four people onboard and severely damaging the vessel. The Israeli military appears to have been taken by surprise by the attack and now believes that Iranian advisers from the IRGC were present at the launch of the missile.

One of Israel's major concerns, which has a bearing on the terms of any UN-brokered ceasefire agreement, is that once the fighting stops then Iran will replenish Hezbollah's arsenal of missiles via Damascus and the Syrian-Lebanese border. So, Israel will likely insist on UN or international monitors being stationed along the 375km (233 mile) border.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...st/5242566.stm

[Anonymouse]

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What do you know? Top Pentagon officials are admitting that Iraq "could" dissent into civil war, as if it has not already.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5614034

[Armenian]

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Think about this for a second.

So-called "Al-Qaeda" and their famed international "mujahedin" have never shown up in Palestine or Lebanon in support of their "Muslim brothers".

Washington and Tel-Aviv are pushing the "Al-Qaeda" and Hezbollah links for their own interests and yet Hezbollah wholly opposes and rejects everything "Al-Qaeda" is.

Nasrallah once made a statement in response to Washingtons/Tel-Avivs effort to tie his Hezbollah with "Al-Qaeda".

He of course denied any links, moreover he clarified something.

Hezbollah's aim: "confrontation of the Zionist plan."

then

"Bin Ladin’s focus has been Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Bosnia, and Chechnya"

Note that everywhere "Al-Qaeda" has shown up, Washington's interest have also shown up.

Afganistan - when Al-Qaida was first created by the CIA to fight the Soviet Union.

Yugoslavia/Bosnia -- the famed 'mujahedeen' fight is support of Bosnian Muslims, allied with Washington, against Serbs. Bin Laden was witnessed to have had a meeting with the 'democractic' head of the Bosnian Muslim state Alija Izetbegovic.

Chechnya -- Look up "Freedom House" and names of the members of this organisation.

Good job enker.

During the summer of 2001, I met a Bosnian Muslim through work. This young man had served in the Balkan wars as a sniper. We would talk alot about politics, religion, etc. When the attacks of September 11 occured and the media was flooded by Al-Qaeda and Ossama, he told me a little secret he had.

He claimed that in the mid 90's, when he was serving in the Muslim Bosnian Army, his unit was armed, funded and trained by Arabian and Pakistani men who would call themselves Mujahadin and Al-Qaeda. He also claimed that he personally saw CIA field agents working shoulder-to-shoulder with these Al-Qaeda/Mujahadin operatives. He even claimed that OBL had also visited them, although he said he did not get to see him.

Remember that this was during a time when the US government - supposedly - was already looking to kill OBL for various terror attack on American militery interest overseas. The Bosnian and I would joke about how a bunch of stateless camel riding rag-heads were supposedly out-smarting the world's most powerful superpower. I lost contact with the Bosnian since then.

As a direct result of 911, we have been on a global rampage. In the name of "war-on-terror" we are bringin death and destruction worldwide. Our government promised to catch OBL "dead or alive." Every major political analyst, including goverment officials, admit that OBL and Al-Qaeda is in Pakistan.


So, why do we have 150,000 troops in Iraq instead?


And when did Hizbollah ever threaten America?


And what's the problem with Iran?

[Armenian]

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[Armenian]

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Before and after satellite images of Dahieh, Lebanon, a southern suburb of Beirut and home to Hezbollah's headquarters, show how it has dramatically deteriorated during warfare between Israel and Hezbollah. The image taken July 12, when fighting began, shows intact buildings and roads. The photo taken July 22 shows gaping holes where buildings once stood and roads in ruin.

http://edition.cnn.com/

[D3ADSY]

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http://edition.cnn.com/

Unbelievable.

[Fedayeen]

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My cousins just got back from Armenia, he says a lot of people are coming to Armenia from Lebanon...and not just Armenians...

I am proud of our country.

[D3ADSY]

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higher-res images:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/Beirut_before_2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Beirut_after.JPG

They tell a slightly different story than CNN's cropped version. -_-