War in The Middle East

[Fedayeen]

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US rushes precision-guided bombs to Israel


EW YORK (Reuters) - The Bush administration is rushing a delivery of precision-guided bombs to Israel, which requested the expedited shipment last week after beginning its air campaign against Hizbollah targets in Lebanon, The New York Times reported on Saturday.

Citing U.S. officials who spoke on Friday on condition of anonymity, the Times said the decision to ship the weapons quickly came after relatively little debate within the administration, and noted in its report that its disclosure threatens to anger Arab governments and others who could perceive Washington as aiding Israel in the manner that Iran has armed Hizbollah.

The munitions are actually part of a multimillion-dollar arms-sale package approved last year which Israel is able to tap when it needs to, the officials told the Times. But some military officers said the request for expedited delivery was unusual and indicated that Israel has many targets it plans to hit in Lebanon.

The arms shipment has not been announced publicly. The officials who described the administration's decision to rush the munitions included employees of two government agencies, one of whom described the shipment as just one example of a broad array of armaments that the United States has long provided Israel, the Times said.

Pentagon and military officials declined to describe in detail the size and contents of the shipment to Israel, the newspaper said, and they would not say whether the munitions were being shipped by cargo aircraft or some other means.

But one U.S. official said the shipment should not be compared to the kind of an "emergency resupply" of dwindling Israeli stockpiles that was provided during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, according to the Times report.

A spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington told the Times: "We have been using precision-guided munitions in order to neutralize the military capabilities of Hizbollah and to minimize harm to civilians. As a rule, however, we do not comment on Israel's defense acquisitions."


I think they really need all the help they can get...

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Thousands of communists protest against war in Israel:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...279792,00.html

"A skirmish broke out between activists from both sides, while some infuriated passersby cursed the leftist protesters and called them, "Hizbullahniks." Others threw garbage bags at the activists and shouted: "A good Arab is a dead Arab," and "If only a rocket fell on you.""

that is exactly a kind of horrible media coverage that irks me. that is sensationalism journalism. they quote for stong effect (that causes more viewing of them) and almost all mainstream does that to a degree, now. sad.

ceasefire? no question. yes. ceasefire.

[Fedayeen]

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OMG

You nailed it

lol

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i really do believe that if israel stops incursions and respects agreements, there will be no violence. the usa should also do the same.

sidenote: there will be no markets without peace, not opinion, but fact.

[D3ADSY]

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Just Russian news TV said, they destroyed 5 IDF tanks and a apache helicopter

So there are 5 burning Merkava hulks in Lebanon, not disabled, but destroyed?

yeah. people can be both. on the bunny suicide thread there is a pic of a bunny holding up the peace sign among nazis. i feel a little like that at times. anti-israel people call israel nazis. yet, israel acts like nazis at times too. me? i'm on that stupid damn rope in the middle.

armenians don't think i'm armenian. xxxs don't think i'm a xxx. more too.

Don't worry, you probably just ruined his day.

[Armenian]

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The IDF is becoming big, rich and dumb

Firepower versus brainpower

By Yoel Marcus

Two weeks after Israel set out to defeat Hezbollah, its military achievements are pretty limited. A country that stood up to seven Arab nations in the War of Independence, a war of the "few against the many," with an army that pulverized the invading forces of three Arab nations in the span of six days, is now facing an embarrassing role reversal: a war of the "many against the few" in which Israel is on the floorboards.

Who would have believed that a guerrilla organization with a few hundred regular fighters, something like a brigade and a half, could paralyze half a country, firing off hundreds of missiles every day? A total of 2,200 by Sunday morning, says the defense minister. Who would have believed that cities like Safed, Acre, Nahariya, Tiberias and especially Haifa, the capital of the North, would wake up every morning to the sound of sirens and deadly rocket fire that would turn tens of thousands of people into refugees and shut down life in a large part of the country?

And that's even before Hezbollah has tried to use its long-range missiles on Tel Aviv. Who would have believed that the Israel Defense Forces, the army that is prepared for large-scale wars, that Iran fears will attack its nuclear facilities, that can drop 23 tons of bombs in a single night, is incapable of stopping Hezbollah's missile fire? How is that as soon as the IDF announces Hezbollah's TV station has been bombed, Hassan Nasrallah pops up in blooming health to continue his taunts against us?

Israel went to war with the goal of wiping out Hezbollah, a hostile militia operating on its border, in response to provocation and the kidnapping of soldiers made possible by the sluggishness and routine that has become widespread in the IDF in recent months. It did so with international backing, with President Bush leading the pack, and the support of most Israeli citizens. Bush and the public assumed that the army knew what it was doing, and that Israel, with its superiority in manpower, weaponry and technology, would be able to put an end to Hezbollah as a menace to Israel. Little by little, however, a worrying picture has begun to emerge: Instead of an army that is small but smart, we are catching glimpses of an army that is big, rich and dumb.

Take the bizarre appearances of IDF top brass on television: The commander of the Home Front, who stands there handing out high marks to the Israeli public, seemingly unaware that the moment people sense the army is not functioning, they will take to their heels - not only leaving their homes but fleeing the country, following tens of thousands of tourists who have already hightailed it out of here. The chief of staff, who had to say that "we're going to turn Lebanon back into what it was 20 years ago," and now threatens to blow up a 10-floor building for every missile. The district commander who declares: "We don't do body counts in the middle of a war," an improved version of the comment of Benny Gantz, who was a brigadier general in 2001:

"When you chop down trees, splinters fly," totally forgetting that the splinters are human beings. We have a chief of staff who looks like he gets up every morning and agonizes over what to wear - his blue uniform or his khakis. A chief of staff who delivers state-of-the-union addresses that should be the job of the prime minister, and spends whole days touring with Channel 2 correspondent Ronny Daniel. In his observations to the media, Brigadier General (res.) Rafi Noy is right when he says that Hezbollah, with its hidden arsenals, continues to enjoy the upper hand, while the mighty IDF still has far to go to knock it out of commission.

Unlike some of my colleagues, I believe that Israel is fighting a no-choice war that we must do everything possible to win. Air strikes, ground operations - whatever it takes so that Hezbollah, exhausted and beaten, pulls back and a multinational force is deployed along the international border together with the Lebanese Army, in keeping with Security Council Resolution 1559. If Hezbollah does not cooperate with a UN-mediated agreement stipulating that it give up its heavy weapons, and refuses to stay north of the Litani River, the IDF will have no choice but to keep up the attacks and pound away at Hezbollah, crushing it outpost by outpost. The rules of the game dictated by Hezbollah are going to have to change. A status quo ante is out of the question.

The conflict with Hezbollah cannot be allowed to deteriorate into a war of attrition. It must not be expanded beyond its stated goals. And the Israeli public must not be overly put to the test, lest the "wonderful home front" blow up in the government's face. The trouble is that we don't have all the time in the world. Condeleezza Rice is on her way. She will shuttle back and forth, back and forth, until the moment comes for a cease-fire agreement. We can only hope that the army reverts to its old self and has the wisdom and good sense to know what to do and when to do it, to produce the desired outcome.

Link: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/742261.html

[Armenian]

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yeah. people can be both. on the bunny suicide thread there is a pic of a bunny holding up the peace sign among nazis. i feel a little like that at times. anti-israel people call israel nazis. yet, israel acts like nazis at times too. me? i'm on that stupid damn rope in the middle. armenians don't think i'm armenian. xxxs don't think i'm a xxx. more too.

Well, in reality, YOU CAN'T BE BOTH.

You can, at best, be a half-assed Armenian or a half-assed J-e-w. You can't be both. Sorry to break you the news my dear. Armenians and J-e-w-s are are very different peoples - psychologically, spiritually, physically, morally, etc. I suggest you sit down and think deeply about who and what you really are. I see this is already an issue within your life. I. personally, would accept you as an Armenian if you abandon everything "J-e-w-ish" within your identity.

However, I will never accept anyone who claims to be both.

[Sip]

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However, I will never accept anyone who claims to be both.

Great. Fortunately your opinion about what he can or cannot "be" doesn't count for much other than to fill a post. And whether you "accept" or "don't accept" has very little bearing on the fact that he is both.

[Armenian]

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Hezbollah: Model for Manliness

By Joanna Francis

As I watch the genocidal war crimes being committed against the Lebanese people, I’m struck by the images that come across my television screen. I see women and children badly burned by the illegal chemical weapons our tax dollars provide to the Israelis for the incineration of their enemies; bridges, homes and roadways bombed into oblivion; hundreds of thousands of internal refugees; and death and misery palpable from halfway around the world.

But I must confess that what strikes me the most profoundly is the sight of young Lebanese men marching proudly, as they xxxxxle an Israeli flag underfoot. Hezbollah. Many of them don’t even look old enough to shave, and yet, they are truly men. The rest of the world hems and haws at the carnage the xxxs have wrought on the once modern and beautiful country of Lebanon. But the average (so-called Christian) American merely echoes the mantra of his xxxish masters as he has been trained to do all his life. Americans confidently state that the Khazar xxxs have a right to “defend their country” and that Hezbollah are terrorists, militants, and now, insurgents. What they fail to mention is that those Khazar xxxs have about as much right to Palestine or Lebanon as the Chinese have to France, i.e., none. They are simply xxxish squatters on Arab land. And the Arabs intend to evict them. That is not terror. That is justice. And that is manly.

So, Mr. Brave Christian Weekend-Warrior, call Hezbollah terrorists if you will, but one thing you cannot call them is: cowardly. They are the only people brave enough to stand up to the xxx and spit back in his face. They are willing to fight to the death for their homeland, their honor, their religion, and their women. Yes, I said “their women.” You see, unlike you, they will not let the xxxish pornographers and abortionists defile their culture and turn their women into xxxxxs. You have been brainwashed into believing that Muslim women hate their plight of being protected from sexual predators, getting married young, becoming mothers, being treated with respect and dignity, being taken care of in their old age by their children, and living like innocent, strong, beautiful women.

To your surprise, they do not seem to miss the beer-guzzling, Playboy reading, commitment-phobic, narcissistic men-children who turn their women over to the xxxish enemy. Their men are truly manning the frontlines, as you strain your back to bow as low as possible before your xxx masters, in true lackey fashion. They own you, because you have sold yourselves (and us) out to them. You, Mr. Macho, have become their xxxxx. You are the unworthy sons of the great Christian men who built Western Civilization. They kept the evil Khazar monsters locked up in cages where they belong; only to see their descendants unleash those beasts at a later time.How they must be turning over in their graves.

Today, Christian men will only fight against other Christians (World Wars I and II) or against brave, honorable Muslims, at the behest of the xxx. Now, the Crusaders’ descendants are the beasts in cages, only allowed out long enough to pimp for their xxxish masters, and buy the latest edition of “Girls Gone Wild.” Those “girls gone wild” are your sisters and daughters, yet you contribute to their exploitation for your own dirty, secret pleasure. You have abdicated your role as men and defenders of the Faith. You have allowed yourselves to be emasculated by a bunch of ugly, xxxish feminists. You did not fight for our honor. It is truly stunning how quickly you ceded Western Civilization, deciding that if you can’t beat them, you’ll join them. And so you gleefully set about exploiting our vulnerability, using us like unpaid prostitutes, too weak and selfish to accept your responsibility as head of a family. As a Christian, I do not believe in polygamy, but I can’t help but admire the kind of man who can take care of four wives, and all their offspring; while American men put their one wife to work and then expect her to cook, clean, feed your insatiable ego, and then have to compete with your childish, xxx-inspired fantasies in bed at night.

So admit that you are powerless before the Khazar, step aside, and let “your women” do the fighting. I have only my pen with which to fight, but at least I’m not afraid to wield it, full blast, aimed right at my enemy. Criticize me if you will, but I will pull no punches, use euphemisms, or grovel before my enemies. I have lost too much to them. I will not be their xxxxx. Unlike you, with your sycophantic pen, when you dare even broach the subject at all, regarding who has usurped the great heritage our ancestors created. You make me ashamed to be an American woman. Muslim women need feel no such shame. Their men would die (and are dying) rather than hand their daughters and sisters over to the xxx to be defiled and degraded. Their honor is safe in the hands of their Muslim mujahadeen. That is manly.

And don’t tell me that Jesus Christ was a pacifist and that you are only turning the other cheek. Christ was not the effete, kumbaya, Berkenstock sandal wearing, proto-hippie that the liberals would have us believe. He wanted us to love one another but He also believed in justice. Render unto Caesar, and all that. He confronted the Pharisees face to face with words that you could only fantasize about using, and wouldn’t dare utter, even though we live in the last country in the West where it’s legal to confront the Pharisees. Yet you cower before them, justifying their incineration of Lebanese babies, while you pay the xxx to murder the babies you create with us. You bow before the Israeli flag, a foreign flag, while the young men of Hezbollah march on top of it. Don’t hide behind Christianity.

It is not for wimps and cowards. Let us not forget the image of Christ turning over the tables of the money changers and whipping them out of the temple! That was manly. So the next time you turn on the Zionist controlled television news and see images of dead and wounded women and children in Lebanon, just remember: their men are fighting for them against a far superior military force, thanks to us. But they are not cowering in fear. And I wouldn’t be surprised if they were to steal victory after all of this is over (if it ever is). Because all they have to do is survive and they have won. The Israelis have to eliminate Hezbollah to win, and that is unlikely. You can’t beat a force that is fighting for their families and for their homeland – in their own homeland. The home team always has the advantage. Truly, a moral victory is already assured for Hezbollah. Regardless of the outcome, they win just for having withstood so much firepower, and still being able to launch their hapless little Katusha rockets back over the fence.

Yes, that is manly. Maybe you American Christian men could learn something from them about fighting for honor, family and homeland. Maybe you could try to emulate Hezbollah. They might teach you a lesson or two in manliness. And if you’re nice, they might even lend you some testosterone.

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[Nemesis]

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Great. Fortunately your opinion about what he can or cannot "be" doesn't count for much other than to fill a post. And whether you "accept" or "don't accept" has very little bearing on the fact that he is both.

It is NOT possible to be BOTH in two diametrically opposed identities. Sooner or later one or the other will be revealed as one's TRUE loyalty. You cannot sit on the fence in the middle.

As to opinions, Sip's are the most illogical, irrelevant, simple minded and vacuous you will see anywhere.