War in The Middle East

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he was not elected i think... someone put him there for the second round... americans had an election no better than iraqis... even their puppet of puppet media covered the incident

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I love it how the americans threaten the world with their version of 'democracy', while their rulers are being elected by leaking the votes. Heck, they don't even have a parliamentary 'democracy', like here in Europe.

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Which post are you talking about, because I can point to quite a few that weren't anything more than rants.

This one that I just had to repost.

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at least we dont have to worry about haveing him our president again!

But he's not gone yet and he is doing and can do much more damage before he leaves office.

I think some anti-war groups should start impeachment proceedings.

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This man is crazy; obviously he doesn’t know anything about politics. Tony Blair is the genius in these matters.

Livingstone’s statement on Israeli terror in Lebanon

Ken Livingstone, Mayor of London, has sent the following message of support to the `ceasefire now' demonstration in London on Saturday 5 August.

Livingstone sent this message of support to the `ceasefire now' demonstration in London

"I want to welcome this demonstration to London. Your slogan for an immediate ceasefire has the support of the majority of the people of London, Britain and the entire world.

"Given its financial and military dependence on the United States, Israel could not continue its massacres of civilians and the destruction of the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon and Gaza for one more day if there was a united demand for a ceasefire from the international community.

"That is being blocked by the U.S., unfortunately supported by government policy in this country. We must fight to reverse this, including by a recall of parliament to allow MPs to discuss the issue.

"In order to get civilians out of the firing line immediately, there should be a simultaneous ceasing of Israeli air attacks on Lebanon and of rocket attacks into Israel.

"This week it was revealed that Israel's destruction of Lebanon was planned before the capture of the two Israeli soldiers. Indeed, it is well known that Israel illegally holds nearly ten thousand Palestinian captives and has been holding Lebanese prisoners for many, many years.

"If their concern is captured soldiers, let all prisoners held by all sides be released immediately.

"This conflict has seen the collapse of Israel’s entire strategy of imposing unilateral solutions on the Palestinians and its neighbours by building a `separation wall’. It is now clear that all sides can strike deep into one another’s territory and no wall will remove that threat.

"There will no unilateral solution. The only way to solve this conflict is for Israel to negotiate with the democratically elected Palestinian Authority and the governments of Israel’s neighbours to reach a comprehensive settlement based on the implementation of all United Nation resolutions – which must include the commitment by Israel to withdraw from all of the territories it has occupied since 1967 in contravention of UN resolutions."

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Bla bla bla……Anti-Semites and nothing else! How could they say such things about peace loving country and it’s people?

A new Middle East?

By: Dr. Steven Harris

A week into the senseless and merciless of bombing of Lebanon where virtually all the casualties of the Israeli (or should that be U.S.?) bombs were civilians, Condoleezza Rice, the U.S. Secretary of State, spoke of the opportunity to create a ‘New Middle East’.

What that meant to Ms Rice we can only speculate but those who remember George Bush Senior’s comments in the run up to the first Gulf War of the opportunity to create a ‘New World Order’, the words were a chilling insight into U.S. thinking. The scenario that the Americans and Israelis hoped for are not too hard to imagine. They would have been hoping desperately for the democratically elected government of Lebanon (with 2 Hezbollah cabinet members) to have asked for assistance in disarming Hezbollah; thereby giving the Israelis and quite possibly the Americans the long dreamt of day when they could invade and bomb Lebanon.

To hear the Israeli spokesmen over the last 20 days talking about the need to enforce a UN resolution on Lebanon would be amusing, given Israel’s record of ignoring UN Resolutions, if were not so cynical and meaningless.

However, the fact remains that Israel and the USA have managed to do to Lebanon and to the wider Islamic cause which no Muslim in centuries has managed; 1) unite Lebanon across religious and sectarian lines, and 2) expose Israel for the increasingly impotent but violent bully it is.

These are two massive developments and have indeed set the stage for a ‘New Middle East’; although it is unlikely that this was quite what Ms Rice was referring to. Each of these developments needs to be looked at separately.

• Lebanon

This nation was created by the French colonialists after the First World War from Syria and Lebanon has had a tragic and unstable history of civil wars between the various parties which include Maronite Christians, Druze, Sunni and Shia Muslims. Last week, opinion polls carried out by US news agencies showed that 81% of Christians, 85% of Sunni Muslims and 86% Shias viewed Hezbollah as defenders of Lebanon. On 29th July, one of the leading Maronite Christian bishops of Lebanon in an interview with the BBC rejected allegations that Hezbollah was a terrorist organisation or that it was foreign in any way. He stated that his Church had always had excellent relations with Hezbollah and that there was no doubt that Israel was to blame for the casualties. This is a remarkable phenomenon and shows how the tragedy of the last three decades for Lebanon has matured and united the people. The Israeli government also did its bit for ensuring that the Lebanese army would co-operate with Hezbollah by killing 10 Lebanese soldiers in an air strike in the early days of their bombing campaign. The Lebanese cabinet comprising of all different factions is united alongside Hezbollah and demonstrations in recent days have shown Lebanese people of all persuasion carrying Hezbollah banners. The ‘Cedar Revolution’ that the USA was hailing just months ago following the withdrawal of Syrian troops and the democratic elections produced Hezbollah’s best every results and 2 Cabinet members. The US must be wishing it had never mentioned democracy as the last election in Palestine resulted in Hamas winning comfortably and the Lebanese elections also produced the ‘wrong’ result.

• Israel exposed

In the Israeli newspapers, commentators have been shocked to discover the world’s fourth largest military power could not even scare, let alone defeat, a guerrilla force of not more than 6,000 men. Hezbollah do not have an air force, navy, artillery or any of the equipment needed by a modern army. In spite of this, Israel has suffered casualties every time it ventures more than a few miles into the Lebanese territories. The Israelis have now started to use the excuse that Hezbollah had six years since its withdrawal to re-arm and is being supported by Iran and Syria. This is such a weak excuse for what is looking like cowardice that it is almost laughable but just a few points can be made.

Firstly, Israel has also had six years to re-arm and has fought (and lost to) Hezbollah before so surely both sides had an equal amount of time. Secondly, Israel is supported to the tune of $3 billion dollars PER YEAR by the USA and has nuclear weapons (which will be discussed separately), latest bunker busting (innocent women and children killing) bombs and is using chemical weapons in Lebanon in contravention of international law.

This is also not to ignore the intelligence it is receiving from the Americans and the huge logistical support in every sphere. Naturally the U.S. is hardly likely to object to Israel’s use of chemical weapons as it not only provided them but also uses them regularly in Iraq itself. Thirdly, Israel created and then supported militarily a ‘South Lebanese Army’ itself when it last occupied Lebanon. Israel hoped to turn it into an instrument of its own sordid plans for Lebanon. The ‘international community’ i.e. the U.S., had no problem for Israel to arm and equip a militia which was undoubtedly responsible for some of the worst atrocities in Lebanon as it was viewed a pro-western force.

The unpalatable truth of the Israeli military is that in recent years it has got used to killing women and children and lightly armed fighters in Occupied Palestine. It has never managed to defeat Hezbollah with all the weapons and money at its disposal and is not going to in 2006 either.

Every bomb it drops and every person it kills is having the opposite effect to what Israel and the USA hoped for. The European Union, the UN, the Red Cross and Human Rights Watch have all combined to condemn Israel in the strongest terms yet. The unfortunate Lebanese have seen their beautiful but tragic country wrecked again but have shown repeatedly that they can and will re-build their country. Israel may pretend that this is a war for its survival to justify the brutal and illegal means it is using but what it has lost – probably for ever - is international sympathy at being a non-Muslim country surrounded by hostile enemies. The whole world – including vast numbers of decent Americans – has been appalled at the repeated and deliberate Israeli bombing of Lebanese civilians. Ms Rice was right but not in the way she would have hoped; there are real signs of a ‘New Middle East’.

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What on hell America has to do with Israel? what a bunch of antis,idiots and stupids? Can you believe this article?

America supplies Israel with NSA signals intelligence

Israel, currently engaged in bloody, unjustified onslaught on the Lebanese and the Palestinian territories, is receiving intelligence from the US's National Security Agency, a report by columnist Sidney Blumenthal on Salon revealed.

Blumenthal, a former assistant and senior adviser to President Clinton, asserted that he’s in touch with "a national security official with direct knowledge of the operation" to provide the Israelis with signals intelligence from American assets to help them monitor what he described as transfer of weapons from Syria and Iran to the Lebanese resistance movement, Hezbollah.

Providing Israel with intelligence to stop weapons from reaching Hezbollah is said to be approved by the American President George W. Bush.

The Bush administration is under the direct control of and influenced by Vice President xxxx Cheney's staff and Elliot Abrams, senior director for the Near East on the National Security Council, which according to Blumenthal, author of The Clinton Wars (Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 2003), and The Permanent Campaign and The Rise of the Counter-Establishment, and columnist for the Guardian, Salon.com, and OpenDemocracy.net , and a former staff writer for the Washington Post, the New Yorker and the New Republic, further stated that President Bush, seeks initiating 'four front war' by giving Israel the pretext to attack Iran and Syria.

The restricted-access article stated that” The National Security Agency is providing signal intelligence to Israel to monitor whether Syria and Iran are supplying new armaments to Hezbollah as it fires hundreds of missiles into northern Israel, according to a national security official with direct knowledge of the operation. President Bush has approved the secret program,” according to Raw Story.

“Inside the administration, neoconservatives on Vice President xxxx Cheney's national security staff and Elliott Abrams, the neoconservative senior director for the Near East on the National Security Council, are prime movers behind sharing NSA intelligence with Israel, and they have discussed Syrian and Iranian supply activities as a potential pretext for Israeli bombing of both countries, the source privy to conversations about the program says. (Intelligence, including that gathered by the NSA, has been provided to Israel in the past for various purposes.) The neoconservatives are described as enthusiastic about the possibility of using NSA intelligence as a lever to widen the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah and Israel and Hamas into a four-front war.”

“Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is said to have been "briefed" and to be "on board," but she is not a central actor in pushing the covert neoconservative scenario. Her "briefing" appears to be an aspect of an internal struggle to intimidate and marginalize her.

Recently she has come under fire from prominent neoconservatives who oppose her support for diplomatic negotiations with Iran to prevent its development of nuclear weaponry.”

Quoting informed sources in both the U.S. and Israel, Asharq al-Awsat newspaper reported earlier that Washington was planning to deliver 100 "bunker buster" bombs to Israel to kill Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the Lebanese resistance movement Hezbollah, and destroy the group trenches.

A New York Times report, citing U.S. officials, further stated that the bombs were part of a sales deal approved by the Pentagon last year.

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RPG29

This is the terrorists’ weapon of choice against peaceful army’s tanks that is only coming to Lebanon to plant flowers and bring civilization. This is how they welcome the good people. What a barbarians?

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Alexander Machkevitch:
Support of Armenian Public and Diaspora to Strengthen xxxish State
Interview with the President of Euro-Asian xxxish Congress (EAJC) Alexander Machkevitch.
28.07.2006 GMT+04:00
Mr Machkevitch, how would you describe the current situation in Israel?


During the operation against Hezbollah the Israelis demonstrate self-control and solidarity in the face of armed terror. The state defense system is highly developed but a great umber of civilians suffered from terrorist acts. The north of Israel is available for bombings from the Lebanese side. Dozens were killed and hundreds were wounded. The rockets explode not only in the xxxish districts but also in the houses of Israeli Arabs, how it lately happened in holy Nazareth. Besides, humanitarian constructions were destructed. A railway depot and water-supply stations that Israelis do not use for military use (unlike Hezbollah) were demolished.


What fate is sealed for those who abandoned their homes with the start of the war?


The situation in the north will normalize with time, but the state even now renders assistance to the families in gravest situation. Like the other organizations of the xxxish Diaspora, the Euro-Asian xxxish Congress (EAJC) and the Keren Hayesod / United Israel Appeal in the CIS led by me make their permanent contribution to the facilitation for our compatriots. Forced migrants are accommodated in hotels. They are supplied with food; their leisure is ensured. The migrants maintain their work places and receive salary. Such social policy strengthens Israelis’ patriotism and the wish to settle the existing problems without immigrating.


Can Armenia or the public of our state play its role in the settlement of the conflict?


First of all I would like to mark the selflessness of the Armenians who serve for the Israeli Defense Forces. Unfortunately, the fact that these two states are situated on the territories that belonged to them historically is hated by many Islamists throughout the globe. There is no place for compromise in the war on international terror, that is why the support of the Armenian public and Diaspora will strengthen the xxxish state which stands on the frontline with this evil.

Interview obtained by Armen Safaryan

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This man is crazy; obviously he doesn’t know anything about politics. Tony Blair is the genius in these matters.

Very good articles. It would be helpful to give the URLs.