War in The Middle East

[TomServo]

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The Palestinian ambassador to the United Kingdom is an Armenian Christian. Maybe next they should make him ambassador to Turkey.

[Palavra]

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Have you heard about acting in politics?

Egypt is also asking Israel to stop... but those are only words (acting) since if Egypt wants, they can open Rafah border.

Turkey has nothing to gain support Hamas and everything to loose fight against israel. Still, We are trying our best against israel and Unlike Egypt we are trying to do something.

(I think, It is still stupid act. That is against the biggest rule of international politics. Follow your own benefit.)

Anyway, I am curious what would be happen at next AG vote at USA. You should be happy about improvements.

Zero. If you're talking about the 40 peacekeepers made up of doctors, technicians, engineers and truck drivers, they left a month ago.

In the name of?

The Palestinian ambassador to the United Kingdom is an Armenian Christian. Maybe next they should make him ambassador to Turkey.

No problem, If He is palestinian ambassador. We would not have any problem..

[Krazy]

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Turkey has nothing to gain support Hamas and everything to loose fight against israel. Still, We are trying our best against israel and Unlike Egypt we are trying to do something.

You didn't understand what I'm saying...

Let me give you another example and you might understand with that example.
Syria has stopped its negotiations with Israel because of the war. Some political analysts are saying that's only acting. There are still under table negotiations taking place between those two countries.

So whatever is announced above the table won't change any relation since there could be deals under the table.

[Palavra]

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My friend, You can show me another million two faced countries. What is relation between these countries and Turkey foolish politic against Israel is still unknown to me. It is a known fact, Arabs already sold Hamas.

[Federate]

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In the name of?

The "coalition of the willing"? I suspect you're trying to find some way to make it seem like Armenia aided the Iraqi occupation, if you are then you have a long way to go. Armenia sent its 40 peacekeepers made up of non-combat troops after "major operations concluded". And the only realpolitik reasons they sent is because Georgia and Azerbaijan both sent combat troops and we do not want to remain behind in American relations for Caucasian countries. Then there is the fact that there was Armenian community in Iraq and finally, for experience.

[Federate]

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My friend, You can show me another million two faced countries. What is relation between these countries and Turkey foolish politic against Israel is still unknown to me. It is a known fact, Arabs already sold Hamas.

Turkey does not only have good relations with the Israelis. They need to suck up to other countries as well. Israel already knows Turkey supports it in reality so Turkey, a Muslim country led by AK party, needs to show some Muslim solidarity with Palestine too once in awhile, when war crimes become very obvious like it has become in Gaza. The Arab leadership have sold out Palestinians since a few decades now yes but this knowledge is realpolitik and not the surface where there are people who really believe that Muslims care about the Palestinians.

As a member of OIC, for example, it has to play its role in that as well. Give it a few weeks, everything will return back to normal and Turkish-Israeli relations are not an exception.

[Palavra]

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so Armenian followed real politics. Lets Turkish goverment follow real politics too.(And morons are not following it.)

Turkey does not only have good relations with the Israelis. They need to suck up to other countries as well

Yes. After all, we should suck up saudi arabia, egypt or other minor arabic countries. After all, we are weak. arent we.. Sorry, There is not still a sensible reason for Turkish actions.(Because, Erdogan is now following his damn mind but following his rotten heart.)

Israel already knows Turkey supports it in reality so Turkey, a Muslim country led by AK party, needs to show some Muslim solidarity with Palestine too once in awhile, when war crimes become very obvious like it has become in Gaza.

More than arabs or every muslim nation at world? what is so special about Turkey? why should we support Hamas more than everyone or should fight against israel.(Even when She is our ally and a beneficial one.)

As a member of OIC, for example, it has to play its role in that as well. Give it a few weeks, everything will return back to normal and Turkish-Israeli relations are not an exception.

So what should we do? Destroy our relation with israel without good reason?

[Federate]

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Yes. After all, we should suck up saudi arabia, egypt or other minor arabic countries. After all, we are weak. arent we.. Sorry, There is not still a sensible reason for Turkish actions.(Because, Erdogan is now following his damn mind but following his rotten heart.)

That is not how Turkey's realpolitik works. First, as a Muslim nation you have a forced duty to seek solidarity with other Muslim nations even though both of you know that you do not like or need each other. It's not secret the majority of Turks despise America and Israel, once in awhile government will need to shut them up. Second, as a nation seeking EU, Turkey is trying to prove itself as a mediator, a peace seeker, one who fights for justice. And yes, Turkey is not a superpower. Every nation below superpower status has many weaknesses.

More than arabs or every muslim nation at world? what is so special about Turkey? why should we support Hamas more than everyone or should fight against israel.(Even when She is our ally and a beneficial one.)

Let's not exaggerate what Ankara is doing. All it has done is yell here and there. All the world did that.

So what should we do? Destroy our relation with israel without good reason?

Again, nothing will happen to your relations unless AK party does something incredibly stupid and it won't as long as derin devlet is in power, don't worry (though I wish it happened for Armenia's benefit )

[Federate]

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Venezuela expels Israel envoy over Gaza attacks


CARACAS, Jan 6 (Reuters) - Venezuela expelled the ambassador to Israel on Tuesday in protest over the offensive in Gaza only hours after leftist President Hugo Chavez called the attacks a Palestinian "holocaust."

The socialist Chavez, a harsh critic of Israel and the United States, in recent years has frequently withdrawn Venezuela's diplomatic envoys amid bilateral disputes and last year kicked out the U.S. ambassador over a conflict involving allied Bolivia.

The OPEC nation's Foreign Ministry said in a statement that Israel's campaign constituted "flagrant violations of International Law" and the use of "state terrorism."

"For the reasons mentioned above, the government of Venezuela has decided to expel the Ambassador of Israel and part of the personnel of the Embassy of Israel," the statement said.

The Israeli embassy did not respond to phone calls requesting comment.

Chavez in 2006 threatened to break ties with Israel over its military campaign in Lebanon in a war of words that led both nations to withdraw their envoys.

On Monday he accused Washington of poisoning the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat to destabilize the Middle East and justify U.S.-backed Israeli incursions into Arab countries.

Israel is under international pressure to reach a ceasefire with Hamas militants and halt an offensive that has killed nearly 600 Palestinians, including more than 40 in a U.N. school sheltering civilians.

"The Holocaust, that is what is happening right now in Gaza," Chavez said in televised comments earlier on Tuesday.

"The president of Israel at this moment should be taken to the International Criminal Court together with the President of the United States."

The United States, which Chavez describes as a decadent empire, firmly backs Israel -- its principal ally in the region.

http://www.reuters.com/article/middleeastCrisis/idUSN06444577

[Federate]

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Hezbollah 'ready to fight Israel'



Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, has warned that "all possibilities" are open against Israel as he gave a fiery speech in which he blasted Israel's offensive in Gaza and voiced support for Hamas.

Addressing tens of thousands of supporters via video link at his stronghold in Beirut's suburbs, Nasrallah said: "I say to [Ehud] Olmert [Israel's prime minister], the loser, the vanquished in Lebanon that 'you cannot overcome Hamas or Hezbollah'."

The comments by Nasrallah, whose Shia movement fought a devastating war with Israel in Lebanon in 2006, marked the first time he has spoken so openly on the possibility of a renewed conflict with Israel since the war in Gaza began on December 27.

Nasrallah warned that the 2006 conflict, in which about 1,200 mostly Lebanese civilians were killed, would be "but a walk in the park" compared to what awaits Israel if it launches a new offensive on Lebanon.

In his speech, which marked Muslim holy day of Ashura, Nasrallah said: "Your 2006 war will be but a walk in the park compared to what we have prepared for you in the event of a new offensive.

"We have to act as though all possibilities are real and open (against Israel) and we must always be ready for any eventuality."

"We are ready to sacrifice our souls, our brothers and sisters, our children, our loved ones for what we believe in."

Egypt attacked

The Hezbollah leader also reiterated past criticism of Egypt for failing to open its border with Gaza and blasted the United Nation Security Council for not acting to denounce the Israeli offensive that has left nearly 700 Palestinians dead.

"Does the government in Egypt need more than 650 victims and 2,500 wounded to open the Rafah crossing once and for all to help the people of Gaza toward victory?" Nasrallah said.

"I am simply asking for the opening of a crossing and not another front."

He also commended Hugo Chavez, Venezuela's president, for expelling Israel's ambassador to Caracas on Tuesday saying that all countries, including Arab states, must follow his example.

"Arab governments must learn from this great Latin American leader to show their solidarity with the Palestinian people and must cut relations with Israel," Nasrallah said.

Jordan, Egypt and Mauritania are the only Arab countries to have diplomatic relations with Israel.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/200917122215939455.html