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  • #51
    Re: Temporarily So Called Turkey and the World: Perceptions, Relations...

    American Chronicle, CA
    Dec 8 2007


    Deterioration of the Turkish - Israeli relationship

    Dr. Muhammad Shamsaddin Megalommatis
    December 7, 2007


    A few days after the terrible Isparta airplane crash in SW Turkey
    that bears witness to undeclared war against Turkey from the part of
    the US - UK - French political establishments that is controlled by
    the Apostate Freemasonic Lodge (The Isparta Crime: Undeclared War
    against Turkey -
    http://www.americanchronicle.com/art...rticleID=44840),
    we get a clearer picture of the escalation that advances rapidly and
    is meant to trigger a dramatic change throughout Eastern
    Mediterranean and the Middle East in the years ahead.

    Last Wednesday, after a five-hour-long meeting of the Under
    Secretariat for the Defense Industry's (SSM) Executive Committee, the
    top decision-making organ for arms purchases, it was announced, among
    other critical decisions, that Turkey eliminated Israel from the
    Göktürk satellite project. Chief of General Staff Gen. Yaşar
    Büyükanıt, Premier Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and Defense Minister Vecdi
    Gönül attended the Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry
    Executive Committee's meeting.

    According details given by Defense Minister Vecdi Gönül, Turkey
    decided to eliminate Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) from the
    Göktürk electro-optical satellite project, while announcing that it
    will conduct negotiations with both Sikorsky of the US and Italy's
    Agusta Westland for the procurement of approximately 80 multi-purpose
    helicopters worth around $1.5 billion.

    The rest of the decisions testify to the fever of military
    preparations that reflect the newly concealed alliance between the
    Turkish secular military establishment and the Islamist government
    and president of Turkey.


    As it was announced, Turkey will also locally develop modern infantry
    rifles and automatic rifles, and this will happen for the first time.
    Among other ambitious projects that the SSM Executive Committee
    decided to either launch or start contract negotiations on are the
    following:


    * Negotiations will continue with the Italian Tele Spazio, Germany's
    Ohb-Systems, and Britain's EADS Astrium, as regards the acquisition
    of an electro-optical satellite project. This is the $250 million
    project from which Israel's IAI has been eliminated. The plausible
    reasons and explanations given are not very convincing; it was stated
    that the company was dropped due to some Israeli conditions,
    involving the non-usage of military satellites over its airspace;
    however, this is nothing new, and the Israeli conditions had been
    known beforehand.


    * Instead of a multipurpose helicopter project that was finally
    cancelled, Turkey will conduct talks with the US's Sikorsky and
    Italian Agusta Westland for the procurement of over 80 helicopters
    both for the Turkish Armed Forces. It was made clear that the
    companies will increase their chances, if they agree on building
    helicopter platforms in Turkey in order to boost the Turkish defense
    industry.


    * In the acquisition of reconnaissance systems to be installed at the
    Aksaz Naval Base near Marmaris, Aselsan will be the main contractor
    and Norwegian Kongsberg will be the subcontractor. The project is
    worth ca. 50 million euros.


    * Turkey will purchase a total of 16 Norwegian Kongsberg-made Penguin
    missiles worth approximately US $40 million.



    * Modern infantry rifles and automatic rifles will be developed
    locally in two years' time, as we already stated.


    * Four frigates code named TF-2000 will be produced locally with a
    project cost of $1.6 billion.


    * Even more indicative for the Turkish arsenal's complete
    re-orientation and great diversification is the decision to cooperate
    with Russia in the key defense sector of helicopters. More precisely,
    eighteen Mi-17 Russian-made helicopters will be overhauled in Turkey,
    and the company that will do the depot-level maintenance work on the
    helicopters will also be tasked to secure the return of four Mi-17
    helicopters that had been previously sent to Russia.
    (http://www.todayszaman.com/tzweb/det...ay&link=128765).



    The decisions bring Turkey one step closer to the great continental
    alliance under formation, namely Russia, China, Kazakhstan,
    Uzbekistan and Iran. With the remarkable preparatory work made
    towards the formation of a Union of Turkic states, one understands
    that the Turkish - Chinese - Russian rapprochement will be completed
    with the Turkish influence expanding throughout Central Asia. This
    seems to have become indispensable in order to prevent any undesired
    in Moscow and Beijing rise of Islamic Extremism in the area.

    In other words, while allying with Iran, the three vast Asiatic
    countries, Russia, China and Kazakhstan, need Turkey's cooperation in
    reducing extremism either within the Muslim states (Turkmenistan,
    Uzbekistan, Kirghizia, Tajikistan and Azerbaijan) of Caucasus and
    Central Asia or among the Muslim inhabitants of Russia, China and
    Kazakhstan. Agreeing on Turkish expansion is the Russian - Chinese
    method of gradually pulling Turkey out of NATO.

    In the light of the aforementioned, one can easily conclude that the
    tripartite theater between the presidents of Turkey, Israel and
    Palestine reflected only another role that Turkey will play in the
    Middle East in the years ahead; that of a main contributor to the
    demise of Israel and Saudi Arabia, the main US allies in the Middle
    East.

    At this moment, and due to multifaceted biases from the part of the
    European, American and Israeli establishment, there is practically
    speaking no pro-Western force left in Turkey. It would look odd, if
    the situation does not become clearer soon. A pro-Armenian vote in
    the Congress, another EU obstacle, and further evidence for US -
    Israeli support to PKK will trigger an immediate and virulent Turkish
    reaction that will cause severe security problems to all, NATO,
    Europe and Israel.

    Even worse for the West, the Turkish military establishment may soon
    conclude that no attack against Iran can be possibly accommodated
    with regional security as perceived in Ankara. On that day will be
    issued a Death Warranty for the State of Israel, and for the dramatic
    events that will follow the only responsible will be the Apostate
    Freemasonic Lodge that seems to have entered in an orbit of ultimate
    self-destruction.


    Note

    Picture: An Old Route for the Future

    What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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    • #52
      Re: Temporarily So Called Turkey and the World: Perceptions, Relations...

      SIGNS OF RIFT BETWEEN TURKEY AND ISRAEL?

      The New Anatolian, Turkey
      Dec 10 2007

      Turkey has irked Israel by disqualifying its state company IAI from
      a major spy satellite tender while the xxxish state has turned down
      Ankara's request to open a Turkish Cypriot representative office in
      Tel Aviv creating speculation that relations between the two countries
      may not be so warm after all.

      According to Israeli daily Haaretz Israel told a visiting Greek
      Cypriot minister that it has decided to reject Turkey's request to
      open a Turkish Cypriot trade representation office in Tel Aviv.

      Turkish President Abdullah Gul had asked President Shimon Peres for
      approval for such an office during Peres' visit to Ankara last month.

      Gul and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan also asked Peres to examine
      the possibility of operating air and sea traffic between Israel and
      Famagusta in North Cyprus.

      Syria has facilitated a similar Turkish request allowing ferry services
      between Famagusta and Latakia. The Greek Cypriots have opposed the
      move and have made numerous attempts to halt the services. However,
      the Syrians refused the Greek Cypriot requests.

      Greek Cypriot Foreign Minister Erato Kozakou-Marcoullis, who visited
      Israel last week, told Haaretz that Peres and Foreign Minister Tzipi
      Livni told her Israel would reject Turkey's requests.

      Haaretz said Israeli officials confirmed this. "We are aware of the
      sensitivities and have no intention of deviating from the accepted
      UN position," the paper quoted an Israeli official as saying.

      Kozakou-Marcoullis officially visited Israel to be briefed on
      developments in the peace process and to explore bilateral relations.

      Unofficially, according to sources involved in her visit, she also
      wanted to ensure Greek Cyprus was not harmed by the expanding relations
      between Israel and Turkey.

      Meanwhile, Turkey said it will to continue negotiations for Gokturk
      spy satellite project with German, Italian and British companies
      while Israeli IAI was disqualified.

      Sources close to the Defense Industry Executive Committee said the
      reluctance of the Israeli side to provide images through the Israeli
      system played a role in this decision.

      There were reports that Israeli officials including President Peres
      had lobbied on behalf of the IAI.

      Turkish-Israeli relations have had its ups and downs recently.

      Turks were angered when the powerful xxxish organization
      Anti-Defamation League (ADL) supported claims of an Armenian
      genocide. Then came the news that Israeli jets had raided Syrian
      targets while dropping fuel tanks in Turkish territory.

      Israel apologized for the incident while the ADL said it did not
      support a resolution at the U.S. House of Representatives supporting
      claims that Ottoman Turks had committed genocide against Armenians.

      Things seemed to return to normal when President Peres visited
      Ankara. However, the latest incidents seem to suggest the ups and
      downs in Turkish-Israeli relations continue.

      ......

      ISRAEL OUSTED FROM TURKISH SATELLITE BID

      Ynetnews, Israel
      Dec 10 2007

      Turkish military overturns Israel Aerospace Industries win of spy
      satellites' bid, citing a demand to deactivate it when flying over
      country's borders. 'Decision may damage Israel-Turkey relations,'
      says military source

      Aryeh Egozi Published: 12.10.07, 09:47 / Israel Money

      The Turkish government has rescinded Israel Aerospace Industries'
      (IAI) participation in a new bid to provide the Turkish military with
      spy satellites, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.

      According to reports in the Turkish media, the decision was made
      after Israel demanded Turkey refrains from activating the satellite
      over its borders.

      "Should that prove to be the real reason Israel was written out of
      the bid, the incident may damage Israel-Turkey relations," a military
      source told Yedioth Ahronoth.

      Israel Aerospace Industries won a Turkish spy satellite bid in 2000,
      but France based Alcatel Space Industries - which came in second the
      bid - appealed the results.

      In an unprecedented move, the Turkish military decided to overturn
      the bid, awarding the contract to Alcatel; but the Turkish government
      decided to overturn the bid a second time, after the French government
      denounced what it called "the mass murder of Armenians in Turkey."

      Once the bid was reopened, the IAI began renegotiating the $250 million
      satellite deal with the Turkish Defense Ministry; but Turkey's Defense
      Ministry's higher acquisitions division informed the IAI that only
      three European companies have made it to the final stages of the bid.

      The IAI was not available for comment.


      Turkish military overturns Israel Aerospace Industries win of spy satellites' bid, citing a demand to deactivate it when flying over country's borders. 'Decision may damage Israel-Turkey relations,' says military source

      TURKEY AND ISRAEL TOGETHER AGAINST THE THREAT OF THE BREAKDOWN OF BOTH STATES

      PanARMENIAN.Net
      Analytical Department
      17.11.2007 GMT+04:00

      /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The fact that the state of Israel keeps on denying
      this fact is not new. Moreover, this is done for the sake of Turkey,
      since Turkey is the only Islamic country Israel is partners with it
      is the only Muslim country which has very tight relationship with
      Israel. It should be mentioned that the government of Ariel Sharon
      and Ekhud Olmert fully supported Turkey's candidacy for integration
      into the European Union, and Erdoghan in answer to this, supported the
      election of the "Magen David Adom" as a member of the International
      Committee of the Red Cross. Turkey lays hopes on xxxish lobby in
      Europe as well, which has its role not in the USA only. However,
      Peres became the first head of the state of Israel, who made a speech
      in the Turkish parliament.

      During the negotiations with President Abdullah Gul and Prime-Minister
      Recep Erdoghan Shimon Peres emphasized that he sees Turkey as an
      important country in the region, which is able to have a positive
      and a rather essential role in the process of stabilization of the
      situation in the Near-East. During the visit a framework agreement
      about establishing three Turkish industrial zones on the West bank
      of the River Jordan was signed. The realization of this Turkish
      initiative, which is considered a historical even here, will provide
      more than 6000 people with job opportunities, which will in its turn
      allow resolving many social economic problems of this region. Besides,
      Israel promised to consider the matter about opening its Embassy
      in the unrecognized Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) and
      promised its support in the issue of the Armenian Genocide. "The
      past is something the historians should deal with, and no bill may
      change this. Only historians may study the past. To realize the
      real values of the future, it is necessary to study the past very
      carefully," quotes Peres the Anatolian information agency. Shimon
      Peres particularly emphasized that Israel has always supported
      and will continue supporting the Turkish proposal to Armenia about
      establishing a common committee of historians. He said that it would
      be more logical to estimate the events on the bases of historical
      studies rather than plant hatred between the two nations. It should
      be mentioned that Peres always repeats himself... He couldn't think
      of anything new than the issue of "historians".

      But one of the most important facts of the alliance is that Turkey
      and the xxxish state have been tied by an agreement about military
      cooperation since 1996.

      Turkey occupies the fourth place among the ten countries of the region
      of the Near-East and the fifth - among the European countries with
      its armament expenses. At present the Secretariat of the Defense
      Industry of Turkey develops 176 projects, connected with provision
      of the armament of the country. The Turkish army in NATO is on the
      second standing with its number and strength. Annual amount of the
      armament sale in the Turkish market is from $3 to $5 milliard.

      Experts believe that the Israeli companies become more dominant in
      the market. The military-political leadership of Israel, taking into
      account the strength and prospective of the Turkish market, qualifies
      the cooperation with Turkey as one of the most important aspects in
      the relations of the two countries.

      The statement made in August 2004 by the director of the armament
      exporting agency proves the above mentioned fact. According to this
      statement "Turkey is a very important market for us, and that is
      not only from economical point of view but first of all from the
      point of view of the exceptional role that this country has in
      the region. Turkey has more extended borders with Syria than with
      Israel. Besides, Turkey unlike Israel, borders on Iraq and Iran. When
      the matter concerns defense, I would say that the character of our
      relationship with Turkey in this sphere is based on the concept of
      mutuality. I cannot say that we have had a total success on the
      Turkish market, but we have had certain achievements in several
      fields. We are interested in proposing Turkey tempting variants and
      thus continue our cooperation."

      Over the last three years Turkey due to its active multi-vector
      foreign policy has noticeably fortified its positions in Muslim
      international organizations, and first of all in the Organization
      of Islamic Conference. In its relations with Syria Turkey has the
      break-through which was not even expected by the biggest optimists and
      the supporters of the Turkish-Israeli relations. These achievements
      of Ankara increase the significance of the role of Turkey in two-sided
      Turkish-Israeli partnership. If in mid 90's the establishment of this
      partnership was being carried out under the motto "joint efforts
      against common enemies", today Turkey is more confident in taking
      up the role of a mediator between Israel and the opposing Islamic
      countries, and Syria among them.

      What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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      • #53
        Re: Temporarily So Called Turkey and the World: Perceptions, Relations...

        A JOURNEY INTO TURKEY'S WILD EAST
        Tim Hannigan, Contributor, London

        Features News
        Sunday, December 09, 2007

        Jakarta Post

        The man behind the counter in Istanbul train station raised a quizzical
        eyebrow: "It's dangerous in the East -- Islamists, the Kurdish rebels,
        and it's close to Iraq. Are you sure you want to go there?"

        I smiled nervously and nodded. He shrugged and handed over a ticket
        for a 30-hour train ride into Turkey's wild eastern borderlands.

        I did wonder if this was a sensible time to be making the trip:
        it was late autumn, and for weeks tension had been mounting along
        the Iraq-Turkey border, with the Turkish parliament threatening
        cross-border raids against rebel bases in northern Iraq. But I put
        such worries from my mind, clambered aboard the train and settled
        down for the long journey across Anatolia.

        The splendors of Istanbul have been attracting tourists for more
        than a millennia and the package resorts of Turkey's Mediterranean
        coastline seethe with sunbathers every summer, but I was heading for
        somewhere altogether different.

        Eastern Turkey fades into a tangle of sensitive borders: Georgia,
        Armenia, Iran and Iraq. A geopolitical hotspot for centuries, invaded
        by Mongols and Russians in the past and riven by insurgency in recent
        decades, it's not surprising that it has never been much of a tourist
        destination.

        But it wasn't stories of violence that I had in mind as the train
        rolled on past Ankara into the night: it was images of clear skies,
        jagged mountains and cobalt-blue lakes.

        A long way from Istanbul

        I was a long way from Istanbul now. There wasn't a trendy wine bar or
        upmarket boutique in sight, and there certainly weren't any girls in
        short skirts. Instead there were bulky women swathed in coal-black
        chadors, donkey carts in the alleys of the bazaar and a faint smell
        of spice in the gritty wind. Welcome to eastern Turkey.

        Erzurum, where I clambered down from the train, seemed adrift in a
        huge landscape. From the minaret of the fifth-century citadel that
        loomed over the town I could see the sweep of empty yellow steppe to
        the north, and the ribbed brown hills, glowing in the October sunlight
        to the south.

        Erzurum is an ancient city. A staging post on the Silk Route, it was
        repeatedly seized by invaders. The conquering armies left their marks
        on the town, and the arrow-straight main street is a thoroughfare
        through Turkish architectural history with ancient mosques and
        seminaries between the modern shops and cafes.

        The cosmopolitan secularists of western Turkey will tell you that
        Erzurum is a hotbed of aggressive Islamic radicalism. There are
        certainly more veiled women than on the streets of Istanbul, but it's
        a remarkably friendly place, and everywhere I went the people offered
        warm greetings and cups of sweet black tea.

        ***

        East of Erzurum the countryside was colder, and wilder. Great expanses
        of flat red-brown earth ran out from the road as the bus sped along
        the highway to Kars. Mud-walled villages stood in groves of poplar
        trees and small boys herded flocks of shaggy brown sheep over the
        broken soil. In the distance a long ridge of hills rose to a pale sky.

        Kars is just about the most remote city in Turkey. Made famous by
        author Orhan Pamuk in his novel Snow, for many Turks Kars is a synonym
        for cold provincial backwardness.

        It was certainly cold when I arrived just before nightfall. A bitter
        wind was howling along the grid of streets laid out during a period
        of Russian occupation, but there was real warmth in the people here.

        I ate a delicious dinner of stewed lamb and aubergine with tomato and
        fresh bread in a lokanta -- a simple cafe. The waiter had worked in
        Germany as a young man and had picked up a little English there. He
        was eager to welcome me to his part of the country.

        "People in Istanbul say it is dangerous here," he said. "We are poor,
        yes, but we are good people."

        Toward the Frontier

        The next morning the hills beyond Kars were covered with snow. The
        sense of winter rapidly closing in added a feeling of excitement as
        I boarded a battered minibus heading towards the Iranian frontier.

        The road passed villages hidden among willows and poplar trees. Ahead
        the great conical peak of Mount Ararat -- where according to legend
        Noah's Ark ran aground after the Flood -- rose from a yellow horizon.

        Kurdish folk music played on the minibus stereo and a blue and white
        charm to ward off the evil eye dangled from the rear view mirror.

        In the early afternoon I arrived in Dogubayazit, a wild little border
        town, 20 miles from Iran, clinging to a hillside above an empty plain
        with Ararat looming in the distance.

        Dogubayazit's most famous attraction stands on a high promontory
        above the town. The Ishak Pasa Palace is one of the most stunning
        buildings in Turkey. Built by a local chieftain two centuries ago, it
        looks out over the vast landscape of eastern Anatolia. The courtyard
        was deserted when I visited and the honey-colored limestone of the
        columns and archways glowed in the afternoon sunlight.

        As I walked back downhill toward the town three boys huddling behind
        a low wall out of the chilly wind called me over to ask my name and
        my country. When I returned the question about nationality they
        glanced nervously at one another and mumbled, "Turkey". But as I
        walked away they called me back and hissed, "We are not Turkish,
        mister; we are Kurdish."

        The Kurdish homeland sprawls across the borders of Turkey, Iran, Syria
        and Iraq. For many years Eastern Turkey -- the Kurdish heartland --
        has seen vicious fighting between the Kurdistan Workers Party, known
        as the PKK, which wants to establish an independent Kurdish homeland,
        and the Turkish army.

        In the last couple of years there have been moves towards peace, but
        the increasing Kurdish autonomy over the border in Northern Iraq has
        made the Turkish government nervous, and reignited the aspirations
        of Turkey's Kurds.

        Abandoned churches, troubled past

        The waters of Lake Van, a vast inland sea in hemmed in by rugged
        mountains, were as blue as lapis lazuli. The hillsides beyond the
        shore were dusted with snow, but it was warm in the bright sunlight.

        I was standing beneath the golden sandstone walls of the Armenian
        Church of the Holy Cross on the tiny island of Akdamar, a mile out
        in the lake.

        I had caught a lift in a truck along the lakeside road, then convinced
        a ferryman to take me across despite the lack of other passengers.

        The Kurds were not always the only troubled minority in eastern
        Turkey. A century ago the area was home to several million Armenians.

        As the Turks fought Russia in the First World War the Armenians
        were accused of having pro-Russian sympathies and deported en-masse
        to Syria.

        During the deportations hundreds of thousands, possibly millions,
        died. Many regard the fate of the Armenians as the 20th Century's
        first case of genocide; for the modern Turkish government it is an
        issue still too sensitive for open discussion.

        What is certain is that all that remains of centuries of Armenian
        culture in Eastern Turkey are enigmatic ruins like the church at
        Akdamar.

        The church was beautiful. Inside its echoing chambers the delicate
        iconography could still be made out, a thousand years after it was
        painted. I wandered the island for an hour, then caught the ferry
        back to the mainland and hitchhiked into Van.

        The city of Van was the last stop on my tour through Turkey's wild
        east. It was a bustling place and the sprawling bazaar hummed with
        sights and sounds. Great bolts of colored cloth hung outside tailors
        stores; pavements were lined with boxes of dates, nuts and apricots.

        The smell of fresh bread wafted from hole-in-the-wall bakeries,
        and the sizzle of grilling meat drifted out from kebab stalls. Old
        Kurdish men in black-and-white headscarfs hobbled along the alleyways,
        and shopkeepers called me inside to give me sweet tea and creamy
        feta cheese.

        Eastern Turkey might be the most troubled part of the country, but
        it is probably the friendliest. And despite the checkposts and army
        bases I saw in the region there was no hint of trouble, hostility or
        impending violence.

        I spent 24 hours in Van then took an afternoon flight back to
        Istanbul. As the Turkish Airways jet roared up into the evening sky
        I strained my head to catch a last glimpse of the wild landscape
        through the cabin window. To the south ranks of hills ran on and on.

        Somewhere among them were the PKK camps and the troubled Iraqi
        frontier, but you'd never have known it.

        ***

        Three hours later I was plodding uphill from the Golden Horn into the
        heart of Istanbul. The bars and upmarket restaurants were crowded;
        sleek modern trams hummed along the streets, and there were girls in
        short skirts.

        I found a cozy little guesthouse amid the carpet shops in the shadow of
        the Blue Mosque. The young man on reception asked where I had arrived
        from and raised an eyebrow when I told him. "The East?" he said,
        "But it's dangerous out there."

        I smiled, finished checking in, and set about putting him right.



        What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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        • #54
          Re: Temporarily So Called Turkey and the World: Perceptions, Relations...

          INVESTIGATING THE CONSEQUENCES OF A SUCCESS STORY

          Today's Zaman, Turkey
          Dec 17 2007

          The policies of the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) government
          on issues like EU-Turkey relations, Turkey's Iraq policy and the
          visibility of Islam in the public sphere have been closely followed
          and documented by local and international media.

          However, the impact of AK Party policies on Turkish political
          economy has received less public attention, despite its enormous
          significance. The AK Party has silently undermined the economic
          underpinnings of Kemalist statism by facilitating the exponential
          rise of foreign direct investment (FDI) in Turkey. By doing so the AK
          Party has changed beyond recognition the country's informal economic
          constitution, premised on a historically state-created and subsequently
          state-dependent business class of exclusively Turkish origin.

          Under AK Party rule, Turkey has attracted approximately $50 billion in
          FDI, far more than since the republic's foundation by Mustafa Kemal
          Ataturk in 1923 up to 2002. Significantly, this has been welcomed
          by the country's corporate elite, who fill the ranks of Turkey's top
          employers association, the Turkish Industrialists and Businessmen's
          Association (TUSİAD). The 2001 crisis separated the wheat from the
          chaff in the Turkish corporate scene. The less reputable conglomerates,
          whose success was solely based on incestuous relationships with the
          state, were driven to the wall. Turkish economic nationalism, of
          Kemalist vintage, lost its most vociferous corporate representatives.

          The conglomerates left standing benefited from the post-2001
          consolidation and were in position to expand partnerships with foreign
          multinationals due to their best-of-breed characteristics.

          They also recognized that FDI inflows were indispensable for
          the country's overall stability and, consequently, for their own
          future survival domestically and internationally. Moreover, they
          realized significant capital gains by the rise of valuations in the
          İstanbul Stock Exchange (İMKB) or by selling non-core operations to
          foreigners. Cumulatively these factors have led Turkey's corporate
          elite to effect a remarkably coherent shift in favor of an open,
          well-regulated Turkish market place; a market place capable both of
          welcoming FDI, even if that means increased competition in their home
          turf, and also of generating ever-increasing amounts of capital flows
          from international investors abroad to which they could have access to.

          Rising FDI has also been instrumental in the AK Party's political
          dominance. By contributing to macroeconomic stability, FDI helped
          remove one of the key threats to its rule, a recurrence of the
          2001 economic crisis which would give an opening to the Kemalist
          establishment. Equally important was the reinforcement of the AK
          Party's Western credentials. The vote of confidence, expressed
          in billions of dollars by such names as Vodafone, Fortis and BNP,
          speaks of an AK Party-led Turkey becoming increasingly integrated
          into the world economy and with Europe in particular, rather than
          one unmoored and drifting to an Islamic hinterland. And despite
          the setbacks in the country's EU accession process, FDI flows have
          maintained the confidence of international portfolio investors that
          Turkey is indeed a strong convergence story, just as much as other
          EU pre-accession countries, featuring an accessible market place,
          improved governance and rising incomes.

          The alliance between the AK Party and Turkey's corporate elite in
          welcoming FDI has challenged the Kemalists' economic modernization
          monopoly. This classic expression of Ataturk that Turkey should always
          strive to "reach contemporary levels of civilization" has now become
          fully appropriated by the AK Party. Turkey has -- by dint of its
          economic growth and stability, its welcoming of foreign investors,
          as well as its own increasingly confident business class -- become
          stereotypical under the AK Party's rule as opposed to unorthodox,
          of what it is to be a modern and contemporary country. By the same
          token, the secularist establishment no longer has a positive economic
          agenda. Historically it was the determination of the Kemalist
          elite to replace the Ottoman minority bourgeoisie -- the Greeks,
          the Armenians and the xxxs -- with a Turkish business class that
          underlay its success and wider societal acceptance. It has been a
          long time since this project has been exhausted. And the corporate
          names that this project has given birth to have themselves spelled
          out its demise by essentially saying that we are strong enough to
          accept foreigners in prominent positions in Turkey's economic life.

          Where does that leave the Kemalist establishment? Devoid of a
          comprehensive agenda for the country's future, it has been reduced
          from the nation's vanguard to a guardian of its privileged position.

          Admittedly the establishment still attracts the support of a large
          part of the country's professional, secular middle class. Although
          they have been among the primary beneficiaries of the AK Party-led
          economic growth, they fear that the consolidation of AK Party rule
          could lead to irretrievable regression in Turkey's social life.

          Important as these pillars of support are, they cannot camouflage the
          absence of a realistic alternative. Barring a major international
          economic crisis, the AK Party will continue to monopolize with the
          vital support of the country's corporate elite and of foreign direct
          investors, the country's only viable option for the future.

          * Ioannis N. Grigoriadis is a lecturer at the Department of Turkish
          and Modern Asian Studies at the University of Athens and a research
          fellow at the Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy
          (ELIAMEP). Antonis Kamaras has worked as investment banker in İstanbul
          for the past three years and is currently a Ph.D. candidate at the
          London School of Economics and Political Science. This article is
          based on a study which will appear in the upcoming issue of the
          academic journal Middle Eastern Studies.

          17.12.2007

          Ioannis N. Grigoriadis & Antonis Kamaras* TODAY'S ZAMAN



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            A MIDDLE EAST STUDY TOUR: PERSPECTIVES FROM TURKEY

            Washington Institute for Near East Policy, DC
            Dec 19 2007

            PolicyWatch #1322: Special Forum Report
            Featuring Soner Cagaptay

            Upon returning from the latest Washington Institute Study Tour to the
            Middle East, senior fellow Soner Cagaptay discussed his findings and
            impressions at a special Institute Policy Forum. The following is his
            own summary of his remarks at the forum. Senior fellow David Makovsky
            addressed the forum as well, discussing his impressions from Amman,
            Jerusalem, Ramallah, and Tel Aviv; a summary of his remarks will be
            published separately.

            A group of Institute trustees and fellows recently visited Turkey,
            meeting with policymakers, scholars, journalists, and community
            leaders. A key finding of the delegation was that Turkish foreign
            policy seems to be settling into a new pattern -- one friendly to
            the United States, Syria, and Iran.



            Booming Economy and the PKK

            The two main topics in Turkey today are the booming economy and
            worries about the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK). The political
            stability provided by the ruling Justice and Development Party
            (AKP), which came to power in 2002, has resulted in a notably
            strong economic growth. As a result, Turkey now benefits from an
            improved European-style infrastructure, a dynamic private sector,
            and a vibrant middle class. The country's major businesses, most of
            which are secular, have benefited significantly from the economic
            growth and are generally supportive of the AKP, although some seem
            to disagree with the party's social and cultural agenda.



            The PKK, on the other hand, trumps all other issues in Turkey.

            Although Turkey witnessed significant political tensions earlier
            this year over the issue of secularism and religion in politics,
            such tensions seem suppressed now in light of the recent PKK
            attacks. In fact, it can be said that the terror issue and the debate
            over secularism are on opposite cycles: when the PKK issue peaks,
            the debate over secularism dips, and vice versa. It should be noted,
            however, that while the debate over secularism is on the back burner
            now, it is very much alive.



            Three-Dimensional Foreign Policy: The United States, Iran, and Syria

            A two dimensional picture of Turkish foreign policy shows either
            strong ties between Turkey and the United States and Israel, or
            strong ties between Turkey and Syria and Iran. A three dimensional
            perspective, however, shows the many layers of Turkish foreign policy
            simultaneously; the ongoing transformation of Turkish foreign policy
            towards the Middle East since 2002 seems to have now settled on a
            new plateau.

            There is a gap between reality and perception in Turkey. Turkey and
            the United States have an ongoing, strong cooperation on a wide array
            of issues such as Afghanistan and Iraq. However, the public is not
            aware of such cooperation or why it is in Turkey's interests. This
            is where the AKP government could help by using the right rhetoric to
            bridge the gap between reality and perception, explaining to the Turks
            why it is in Turkey's interests to collaborate with the United States.

            It should be noted that during its meetings, the delegation saw
            challenges to the close cooperation between the United States and
            Turkey. House Resolution 106, also known as the Armenian Genocide
            Resolution (AGR), seems to have added to the resentment against the
            United States. In fact, the issue was raised in every delagation
            meeting with Turkish counterparts. More generally, popular approval
            of the United States is at its all-time low and anti-Americanism is
            laying deep roots throughout Turkey.

            The Turkish-Israeli strategic partnership remains strong. However,
            despite its history as a country with no potent traditions of
            anti-Semitism, Turkey is now witnessing emerging tensions.

            While Turkey has good cooperation with the United States and good ties
            with Israel, it also has good ties to Iran and a powerful cooperation
            with Syria. Since 2002, Iran and Syria have been actively cooperating
            with Turkey against the PKK, which is the main reason why the Turkish
            public has warmed up to these two countries. Iran has taken advantage
            of U.S. inactivity in northern Iraq to such a degree that when an
            American official shows support for Turkey's concerns and promises
            future action against the PKK, Iran actually bombs PKK camps in
            northern Iraq, boosting the popularity of Iranian President Mahmoud
            Ahmadinezhad.

            Attitudes toward Syria in Ankara are also quite positive. There is a
            wide consensus among Turkish policymakers that Syria is a reasonable
            country that should be brought into the international sphere with
            Turkey's help. Regrading Iran, there seems to be an emerging consensus
            in Ankara that while some aspects of Iran's policy -- specifically its
            nucleaer policy -- are problematic, Turkish-Iranian relations have to
            be nurtured and maintained. Two issues that cause the most divergence
            among policymakers in Ankara are Hamas and Hizballah. Opposition
            parties and secular Turks criticize the AKP's continuing contacts with
            Hamas, and call both Hamas and Hizballah "terrorist groups period."



            PKK: Challege and Opportunity for Washington

            The main challenge to the U.S.-Turkish relationship is the PKK issue;
            however, the PKK also provides the U.S. government with a great
            opportunity. U.S. assistance to Turkey to combat the PKK in northern
            Iraq will move public opinion favorably toward the United States,
            while preventing Turkey's slide towards Iran and Syria. The current
            military and intelligence cooperation between the two countries helps,
            but it has come in the winter months when the PKK goes into hibernation
            in the high mountains of northern Iraq. Unless the cooperation
            continues into the spring when the PKK typically resumes a higher
            level of activity, the cooperation will not have its full potential
            impact in reversing anti-Americanism in Turkey. Only persistent and
            consistent U.S. assistance to Turkey against the PKK, into the next
            year and beyond, will help reverse the tide of anti-Americanism in
            the country. In this regard, recent U.S.-Turkish cooperation against
            the PKK, with the U.S. providing real-time satelite intelligence
            to Turkey on the PKK presence in northern Iraq, has been a welcome
            development and was noted in all meetings of the delegation.

            Meanwhile, however, the United States government should exercise
            caution in defining its policies towards the current measures
            implemented by the AKP government. The AKP seems to be on the brink of
            opening up political avenues to deal with the PKK, including a possible
            amnesty for PKK members. However, there is a high chance that through
            the course of the political process, the PKK may resort to violence,
            as terrorist groups often do when they feel their demands are not being
            met through negotiations. If the U.S. government were to be seen as
            supportive of the political process, it would suffer significantly from
            the failure of such process or from intermittent PKK violence. That
            is why Washington should exercise caution and allow the Turks to deal
            with the PKK inside Turkey, while continuing to provide military and
            intelligence assistance for its struggle against the PKK in Iraq.

            Soner Cagaptay is a senior fellow and director of the Turkish Research
            Program at The Washington Institute.

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              The New Anatolian, Turkey
              Dec 25 2007


              US did not just turn a blind eye to Turkish raids against the PKK but actively helped


              NEWS ANALYSIS - ILNUR CEVIK - The New Anatolian / Ankara

              25 December 2007


              Some analysts feel the United States has given tacit approval to
              Turkish cross border raids into northern Iraq against PKK hideouts
              and is turning a blind eye to the incursions.

              While the Americans have not just turned a blind eye to the raids and
              are actively assisting Turkey through opening Iraqi air space for air
              operations and providing actionable real time intelligence they are
              also cautioning Turkey not to harm Iraqi Kurdish civilians and avoid
              any actions that will destabilize the semi-autonomous Iraqi Kurdish
              region and its administration. That means Turkey should not launch a
              full scale military operation by occupying large chunks of northern
              Iraq with the pretext of hunting down the PKK.

              The Iraqi Kurds feel while the Turkish military has set its target as
              the PKK there are suspicions that the hidden target is actually the
              Barzani administration.

              That is why the American officials in Iraq who sympathize with the
              PKK seem to be playing a different tune than Washington. The
              pro-Kurdish lobby in the U.S. leaked news that the Americans were
              angered that they were not informed about the Turkish raids in
              advance but soon that was denied by the Pentagon whose spokesman said
              Washington had been informed about the raids "well in advance."

              There were also claims that American commanders were unhappy in Iraq
              of being left in the dark about the Turkish military operations and
              yet they were the ones who opened the Iraqi airspace to Turkish
              fighters.

              The question of whether Turkish authorities gave their counterparts
              adequate warning percolated after some American officials in
              Washington and Baghdad said the two countries needed to improve
              communication, U.S. administration officials have told the press.

              While the United States provided Turkey with the intelligence to go
              after Kurdish militants in northern Iraq, there had been some mild
              grumbling from the State Department that not everyone up the chain of
              command was adequately informed beforehand. A senior Bush
              administration official told the U.S. press that most of that concern
              centered on Turkey's decision to `chase some bad guys they followed
              over the border.'

              A senior Bush administration official said that, over all, American
              officials were satisfied with the coordination between the United
              States and Turkey. The United States, Iraq and Turkey have an office
              in Ankara, the Turkish capital, to share intelligence.

              `Let me put it this way,' said a Pentagon spokesman, Geoff Morrell,
              using the initials by which the Kurdistan Workers Party is known. `We
              had ample notification of the air strikes by the Turkish Air Force
              over the weekend on PKK positions in northern Iraq. I can sit here
              today and tell you emphatically there was indeed notification
              provided to us prior to the bombing - bombings - that it was
              communicated to us through an apparatus that we have set up in
              Ankara, the Ankara Coordination Center.'

              The very positive attitude of the Americans towards Turkey caught the
              attention of the Iraqi Kurds and Massoud Barzani complained that
              without such American support Turkey would not have launched the
              attacks and thus snubbed a meeting with U.S. Secretary of State
              Condoleezza Rice in Baghdad last week.

              As if to further anger the Iraqi Kurds Turkey's ambassador to the
              United States said last Wednesday Turkish air strikes in northern
              Iraq were the result of real-time, actionable intelligence provided
              by the United States.

              "No doubt this was possible because of information provided by the
              United States of America," Nabi Sensoy told reporters.

              Sensoy said the operations were "tangible results" of enhanced
              cooperation between the two countries since a visit to Washington
              last month by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, during
              which U.S. President George W. Bush promised the United States would
              do all it could to help Turkey fight the threat posed by the PKK
              including providing intelligence on PKK targets.

              "This is not a once and for all operation, but I think it has served
              its purpose because all targets have been hit," he said. "The
              ultimate target is the elimination of the PKK operation."

              Iraq's government condemned the Turkish raids, saying they "add
              insult to injury."

              Erdogan called Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari on Tuesday,
              Sensoy said. Zebari told Erdogan that the Iraqis understand Turkish
              concerns about the PKK, and that the Iraqi government doesn't want
              the group on its soil.

              "This shows we are all speaking the same language that the PKK must
              be eliminated," Sensoy said.

              But Sensoy blasted the Kurdish Regional Government in northern Iraq,
              which he said is not living up to its responsibility to crack down on
              the PKK.

              "The fact is that the PKK presence in northern Iraq could not have
              survived in northern Iraq without some assistance of course," he
              said. "The regional government must assume its responsibility.

              Sensoy added that Turkey was "puzzled" by the Kurdish response to
              Turkish concerns, because Turkey was "very helpful to Iraqi Kurds
              during the first Gulf War."

              "We didn't get the cooperation we thought we deserved from the
              Kurdish regional government," he said. "Our expectations have not
              been fulfilled by the northern authorities so far."

              He did note that there have been "some signs" of increased
              responsibility by the KRG in recent weeks, possibly a result of US
              pressure.

              Turkey wants the KRG to stop giving logistical support to the PKK,
              stop giving the group airtime on its broadcast networks and ban it
              from creating "front parties" to take part in Kurdish elections, he
              said.

              Sensoy said that the United States has promised to send an inspector
              to northern Iraq to investigate charges that U.S. weapons were ending
              up in the hands of PKK militants.

              Sensoy said that Turkish "resentment" toward the United States over a
              perceived lack of support on the PKK issue and a House committee vote
              declaring the Ottoman-era killings of an estimated 1.5 million
              Armenians a "genocide," a sensitive topic among Turks, had subsided
              and the two countries remain "friends and allies" that cooperate on
              many issues.

              He said Turkey was "very happy" with the current level of support
              from the United States.

              Turkish officials are emphasizing the support they are getting from
              the United States which analysts say is also designed to improve
              American image in Turkey and ease the anti-U.S. sentiments that has
              been growing among the Turkish public.

              The Americans have shown to the Kurds that while they are not
              abandoning them they also will not help the process of the PKK
              feeling at home in northern Iraq.


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                Christianity Today, IL
                January 2008, Vol. 52, No. 1

                Jesus in Turkey


                After 550 years of decline, a bloodied church is being reborn.
                Tony Carnes in Istanbul | posted 1/03/2008 08:41AM


                For the first time in 550 years, Christianity inside Turkey is
                growing in numbers and influence. But its recent growth comes at a
                high price: since February 2006, radicalized Muslims have killed five
                Christians - the kind of cold-blooded martyrdom not seen in decades.

                Modern-day Turkey's 73 million citizens, 98 percent of whom are
                Muslims, are experiencing social and political upheaval. The country
                is attempting to improve its economic and human-rights record in
                order to join the European Union. Turkey's relations with the United
                States are strained as an ally in the war in Iraq, and because of
                Congress's aborted effort to pass the Armenian genocide resolution.
                Also, Turkey's border disputes with Greece over land around the
                Aegean Sea, as well as violent skirmishes with Kurdish rebels on its
                southern border, keep this nation's formidable military on highest
                alert.

                This is the context in which a handful of Islamic radicals targeted
                Christians as "enemies of the state" because of their association
                with Western groups and their alleged support of Kurdish rebels. The
                five killed within the last two years were:

                - Andrea Santoro, a Catholic priest killed in February 2006. A
                16-year-old youth shot Santoro as he was praying in the Santa Maria
                Church in Trabzon, Turkey.

                - Hrant Dink, a Turkish-Armenian newspaper editor. In January 2007, a
                teenager gunned down Dink, who had been convicted of "insulting
                Turkishness" two years prior.

                - The three Malatya martyrs: Necati Aydin, a Turkish pastor; Tilmann
                Geske, a missions worker from Germany; and Ugur Yuksel, a new
                Christian convert from Islam. In April 2007, young radicals feigning
                curiosity about Christianity killed the three men by slitting their
                throats at a Christian publishing house in southeastern Turkey. Their
                survivors include five children, two widows, and a fiancée.

                In November, a Turkish court set a trial date for the five suspects
                involved in the Malatya killings for early January. Police are
                calling for life imprisonment and said all five suspects have
                confessed to the murders. The suspects accused the Christians of
                "forcing local girls into prostitution" and of praising the violence
                of rebel Kurds. (About 30,000 people have died since the 1980s in
                rebel-related violence.) Meanwhile, the Alliance of Protestant
                Churches in Turkey is calling Turkish congregations to pray and fast
                every Thursday for the next several weeks in preparation for the
                trial.

                Isa Karatas of the Alliance of Protestant Churches in Turkey told
                Compass Direct News, "It is clear from these statements of the
                suspects that there is some group of powerful influence behind them.
                These people want to portray Turkey's Protestants as enemies of the
                nation."

                "At the same time," he added, "because honor is such an important
                concept in our culture, they are trying to accuse us of having weak
                morals, so that they can find a justification for their murders."

                Few nations have as rich a Christian history as Turkey. This is where
                Paul founded some of the earliest churches, including the church at
                Ephesus. Seven churches in this region were addressed in the Book of
                Revelation. Those in the early monastic movement found the caves of
                Cappadocia a near-perfect place to live out lives of prayer.
                Constantinople, now the city of Istanbul, became the capital of the
                Roman Empire just as it was being Christianized, and the Ecumenical
                Patriarch of Constantinople has been the leader of worldwide
                Orthodoxy for centuries.

                But Christianity came under Islamic rule in Turkey in 1453 and
                steadily declined for centuries; the last 100 years have been the
                worst. In 1900, the Christian population was 22 percent. Now most
                experts estimate that there are fewer than 200,000 Christians
                nationwide, comprising less than 0.3 percent of the population.

                Protestant missions work began around 1820. There are now more than
                30 Protestant organizations operating nationwide. In 1999, the Izmit
                earthquake, which killed 17,000 and left 800,000 homeless, led
                Christian agencies to start new relief work, and they eventually
                began working alongside independent Christian fellowships. These
                fellowships, along with new growth in traditional Orthodox
                congregations, have created a 3 percent annual growth in the
                country's Christian population, about three times Turkey's overall
                population growth rate. Following the Malatya murders, Christianity
                Today traveled to Turkey, meeting church leaders from throughout the
                region.



                Tasting Forbidden Fruit

                In so many ways, the story of Turgay Ucal, a pastor of an independent
                church in Istanbul, embodies the promise and peril of Turkish
                Christianity. On a weekday afternoon, Ucal sat down with CT to
                describe his journey to faith in Jesus Christ.

                Ucal (pronounced u-CHAAL) grew up in Old Town, Istanbul. He told CT
                that as a high school student he took a leap of faith, almost
                literally, out of his comfort zone. In Turkish life, generations of
                families live together with unlocked doors and few secrets. One day,
                he strolled down a cobblestone street, past some decaying buildings.
                He walked back and forth to make sure no one he knew was around - and
                slipped into a Catholic church.

                At the time, Ucal was deeply curious about what had happened to Jesus
                when, as the Koran says, he left this earth still alive. "The Koran
                said Jesus didn't die," Ucal recalls, "and I asked, 'Why? What is in
                the Bible?' - I wondered."

                Turkey's religious landscape is not simple: sharply partisan
                politics, strident nationalism, and disputed history make it a
                complex scene. Secular nationalists who are Muslim in private
                practice fiercely oppose public religiosity. They see Christian
                converts as tools of Western powers that want to undermine Turkey's
                sovereignty.

                In the 1960s, the era in which Ucal grew up, Turks in Istanbul were
                exploring many forbidden fruits. Coca-Cola and Pepsi factories opened
                up. Turkish kids tasted hot dogs for the first time, despite the
                warning that hot dogs might contain donkey meat.
                Others, like Ucal, drew close to Christ.

                Thirty years later, the church started by new believers has achieved
                new maturity and public acceptance. The independent Turkish church
                now comprises almost 100 congregations and more than 100 house
                fellowships.

                Turkish Christians of Muslim backgrounds have anchored the leadership
                of the church around their own new identity - and by portraying Jesus
                Christ as a Turk. This helps resolve a crucial conflict in Turkish
                minds, that only Muslims can be truly "Turkish."
                Leaders have discovered that by the time a Turk of Muslim background
                enters a church, he or she is often ready to convert and is looking
                for reassurance. Ucal told CT that when he went to university to
                study Islamic literature, he even belonged to an Islamic youth group.
                But his ultimate purpose was to learn more about Jesus. "At the
                university, I saw the biblical background to what I was studying," he
                said. "The Bible became my fate."

                He said Christianity offered a new balance of freedom in a
                disciplined context, transcending the stringent legalism of his
                upbringing. As a young man, Ucal had tried to be a good Muslim. "My
                family was Muslim. I prostrated myself to Mecca five times a day. I
                participated in 'The Light' [Nurcu], a Muslim youth group. I had a
                very structured Muslim mind."



                Changed Identity

                New Christian believers find it very difficult to become openly
                active in Turkey's traditional churches - Armenian Orthodox, Catholic,
                Eastern Rite Catholic, and Greek Orthodox. The handful of
                Protestant-affiliated congregations operate in the open, but they
                mainly meet the needs of ethnic minority groups or Westerners living
                in Turkey.

                So new Christians coming from Muslim families are often isolated and
                ostracized. Ucal realized there was more to Christian living than an
                individualized faith. He wanted to create a Turkish church for
                Islamic-background Turks like himself.

                Shortly after becoming a believer, Ucal had not told anyone what had
                happened to him spiritually. But he quietly opened a court case to
                change his religious identity registration.

                His father, a military officer responsible for defending Istanbul's
                harbor, saw his son's name on the list of people changing their
                religious affiliation. Even today there is a common belief that the
                Greeks use Turkish converts to Christianity as spies. Ucal says,
                "Buddhism is okay, but not Christianity. There was a history."

                When Ucal's father saw his son's name included on the list, he went
                ballistic. He stormed home, screaming to his wife, "They are turning
                our son into a spy!"

                At first, Ucal's father became more Muslim in reaction to his son's
                faith. Later, he took a closer look. His son hadn't changed friends
                and seemed more at ease. What most people saw was that the young
                Christian hadn't changed his identity as a Turk. One individual told
                CT, "He still seemed to be a real Turk."

                Ucal kept living within the Turkish Muslim community. There was also
                a growing sense among his generation that they were reshaping Turkey
                into a nation that respected freedom and religious diversity. "We
                have created a new world for us - for me - in my own country," Ucal says.



                Engaging Islamic Society

                In 1986, Ucal finally started a church. His tiny congregation was
                allowed to worship for 60 minutes every 15 days inside the Swedish
                Consulate in Istanbul.

                But Turkish newspapers immediately made a big deal out of a
                Muslim-background pastor starting a Christian church for
                Muslim-background Turks. His parents hadn't become used to Ucal being
                a Christian and had no idea he was going to start a church. They were
                startled when they opened their morning newspaper. "Those years were
                terrible," Ucal recalls. His parents were frightened for their son.
                Campus Crusade staff members who were helping Ucal warned, "Turgay,
                you will die." Yet they stayed with him. Within a year, Ucal had 20
                Muslim-background Turks in his church, and stability was emerging.

                Ucal's congregation moved toward a charismatic, Vineyard-style form
                of Christianity. Meanwhile, Ucal served in the army for eight months
                and received training in ministry in the Philippines and South Korea.
                After that, Ucal decided to plant a different kind of church based on
                systematic theological teaching. While in South Korea, he had noticed
                the parallels between systematic theology and the disciplined Islamic
                lifestyle and mindset. He wondered if other Muslim-background Turks
                might respond to a more structured approach than the informal
                evangelicalism of which he was a part. Ucal found that his Muslim
                neighbors are attracted to systematic approaches to religious
                instruction, and are also easily touched emotionally. So Ucal began
                approaching them with an "emotional Calvinism."

                Ucal started arguing that Christianity was "authentically Turkish"
                and "socially natural." This became a huge breakthrough for
                believers. Today, Ucal's Istanbul Presbyterian Church is one of the
                largest churches nationally. And something else happened beyond
                Ucal's wildest imagination: His parents began visiting his church.

                Other like-minded leaders have begun new churches, but for different
                reasons. The Ankara Church, in Turkey's capital, has grown with an
                emphasis on the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Four other churches (Izmit
                Protestant, Eskisehir Protestant; and in Istanbul, Altintepe Church
                and Besiktas Protestant) have grown through effective mentoring from
                a culturally savvy Spaniard, Carlos Madrigal.

                Anadolu Turk Protestant Church, located in the same neighborhood as
                Ucal's church, has greatly benefited from inquirers from a Bible
                Correspondence course that Operation Mobilization began 30 years ago.

                In the strife-torn eastern part of Turkey, pastor Ahmet Guvener has
                created a much-admired evangelistic strategy that has resulted in a
                multiethnic church of Turks and Kurds. Guvener has launched youth
                teams that stay within their Islamic social networks and form
                long-term relations with neighborhood families. The strategy reflects
                a theme of many of the successful evangelistic efforts: direct
                engagement with the cultural milieu of Muslim-majority society.

                Another common practice among these Christians is teaching morality
                in the public square. Pastor Kaan Koryurek of Besiktas Protestant
                makes a point of showing how the Bible inveighs against public
                corruption, a problem Turks are deeply motivated to fight. Koryurek
                says, "Today I preached on the fig tree that had no fruit. Jesus used
                it as a warning and then went to throw out the traders and
                moneychangers in the temple." After the service, several people
                shared how they were standing up against corruption in their
                workplaces.
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                  Christianity Today, IL
                  January 2008, Vol. 52, No. 1

                  Jesus in Turkey

                  ....
                  Not Honor, But Jesus

                  According to the Istanbul-based church growth center Silas, the four
                  most common channels of Turks coming to faith are: a personal
                  relationship with a believer; taking the aforementioned Bible
                  Correspondence course; a church visit; and the Internet. No matter
                  the channel, new Turkish Christians are quick to make use of
                  traditional beliefs, culture, and relational networks to extend the
                  influence of their ministry and teaching.
                  Ucal and his wife, Sibel, have adapted Sufi music, which is based on
                  mystical Islamic traditions and popular among Muslims, to the lyrics
                  of Christian hymns. Many people request cds of their music over the
                  Internet, and some of them came to the church for the first time to
                  hear the music.

                  As many have noted, Muslims place much weight on dreams and visions.
                  In 1989, after Sibel became a Christian, she wondered if there were
                  any other young Turkish believers around. "I prayed for a Turkish
                  believer husband and to serve God. People teased me: 'Where can you
                  find a Turkish man who believes in God?'"

                  Eventually, she found her way to Ucal's church. After a month of
                  watching Sibel and a long lunch together one day, Ucal was smitten
                  and ready to get married. Sibel says, "I was surprised, but I was
                  ready to hear that. I saw it in my dream that God gave me." After
                  eight months, they were married.

                  Murat Akgul, an elder at Ucal's church, has been shaped by a vision
                  his wife had. Akgul and his wife come from Turkish subcultures that
                  celebrate warfare and fighting. He had trained for a military career
                  until he became disillusioned by the army's harsh conditions.


                  Then his wife became a Christian, which almost led to a divorce and
                  triggered threats of an honor killing. Akgul recalls that in 1999,
                  when his wife first believed, "It was very dangerous for us." He
                  feared his wife's family would kill her. Her father had cut off the
                  head of his brother in an honor murder and had spent 20 years in jail
                  for it.

                  Akgul couldn't bring himself to abandon his wife to an honor killing.
                  Big and tough, he stayed to protect her. They also believe God
                  visited their house to protect them.

                  "One night my wife was at the stove in the kitchen and she wanted to
                  die," says Akgul. The pressure, the fear, and the arguments with her
                  husband built an overwhelming mountain before her. She leaned across
                  the stove to pray, "If you are God, give me a sign."

                  Akgul said, "At midnight, a star came from far away to our house. A
                  great light exploded in front of the windows. She thought that this
                  was a sign from God, and it gave her strength."

                  For the next five years, Akgul stayed by his wife to protect her from
                  murder, but the tensions were palpable. In the morning, Akgul said he
                  could feel his skin tighten up as he prepared for the day. But he
                  noticed a steady transformation in his wife's perspective. Instead of
                  wanting to kill her enemies, she started to become more peaceful and
                  gentle. "She was very deeply changed," Akgul says.

                  Three years ago, Akgul was lying on his bed listening to a radio
                  appeal for funds for a hospital. Then he heard a voice in the bedroom
                  say, "Matthew 6. Matthew 6. Matthew 6." Startled, he got up and
                  looked around. He went out to his wife in the kitchen and asked,
                  "What is Matthew 6?" She opened her Bible and read aloud how alms
                  should be given to God, not man. Strangely enough, that verse broke
                  open Akgul's heart. "I realized that life is not about honor, but
                  Jesus."

                  During the same year, Ucal appeared on national television, debating
                  a Muslim leader. The pastor didn't attack Islam but kindly,
                  reasonably, and boldly answered the leader's charges. The Muslim
                  leader was brusque and bullying. The media's coverage was sensational
                  and favored Ucal. Other Muslims called for the leader to get off the
                  air. Akgul watched these programs and realized that a "real Turk"
                  >From a Muslim background could openly believe in Jesus. In time, he
                  and his wife joined Ucal's church, where Akgul now serves in
                  leadership.



                  Love Without Fear

                  Despite the progress, real danger persists for outspoken Christians.
                  It is not from the conservative Muslims who control the government.
                  Indeed, most Turkish pastors with whom CT talked favored the
                  reelection of the conservative Muslim Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip
                  Erdogan.

                  Rather, the danger is primarily from strident ultranationalists and
                  their youth movement, known as the Grey Wolves. Some experts say the
                  Grey Wolves are terrorists responsible for hundreds of killings.

                  Christian leaders told CT that the Malatya murders have left a deep
                  impression about the cost of discipleship. These leaders vividly
                  remember the moment they heard the news of the killings.

                  Pastor Koryurek remembers that he was on the ferry from Asian
                  Istanbul to European Istanbul. "Brother Ibrahim and I were talking
                  when the cell phone rang. I saw tears start to form." The ferry's
                  motor chugged in the background, and the wet wind seemed to stand
                  still as Koryurek began to guess what happened. Ibrahim closed his
                  cell phone and said, "Our brothers were killed." They couldn't move.

                  Pastor Guvener in Diyarbakir lives not too far away from Malatya, the
                  site of the killing. He and his church's leaders were meeting to
                  discuss the day's business. They had just finished discussing fixing
                  a clogged toilet when their cell phones went off. Hearing the news,
                  several leaders flashed back to an incident three years ago when a
                  deranged man, brandishing a knife, ran into their church.

                  The pastors remembered how one of the Malatya martyrs, Necati Aydin,
                  had recently portrayed Jesus in a passion play. Later, at the
                  memorial service at Ucal's church in Istanbul, everyone wore a small
                  picture of Aydin. The late pastor's son sang, "Jesus Loves the Little
                  Children."

                  Necati's smile keeps coming to mind. Guvener said, "You should
                  remember that God has wiped away the tears." Ucal says Jesus is
                  walking with the Turks. "We love without fear. Something protects
                  this country. Turkey will keep its balance."
                  Tony Carnes, a CT senior writer, is based in New York City.



                  The BBC and the New York Times have sections with recent news and
                  information about Turkey.


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                    Looking East Into Its Past...or Its Future??? (Part I)



                    Eurasia Daily Monitor, DC
                    Jan 11 2008


                    THE REBIRTH OF PAN-TURKISM?

                    By John C. K. Daly

                    Friday, January 11, 2008


                    As the USSR recedes further into history, the post-Soviet Turkic
                    nations of the Caucasus and Central Asia are rediscovering their
                    linguistic and cultural affinities with Turkey, and activists are
                    promoting closer cultural, economic, and political ties.

                    Among the states of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan,
                    and Turkmenistan, the pan-Turkic sentiment is most pronounced in
                    Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan's most ardent support of closer Turkic ties is
                    Nizami Jafarov, director of Baku's Ataturk Center, a corresponding
                    member of Azerbaijan's Academy of Science, and head of the
                    Azerbaijani Permanent Parliamentary Commission on the Culture of the
                    Republic of Azerbaijan.

                    Jafarov's latest project is setting up a new Turkish language TV
                    channel in Azerbaijan to broadcast to the Turkish-speaking world and
                    foster further integration in the Turkic world. `It is possible to
                    say that this idea has become a reality,' Jafarov said during a
                    recent interview. `The issues of the opportunities, main topics, and
                    language of this TV channel have been defined after long discussions.
                    No one is against the creation of such a channel.' According to
                    Jafarov, the only thing currently lacking is money. ` The issue will
                    be fully elaborated after one of the Turkic countries or any
                    international company undertakes the financing of the TV channel,'
                    but he added optimistically, `I think the issue of the channel
                    opening will be settled this year' (Trend.az, January 10).

                    Jafarov is also chairman of the Turkish-Azerbaijani Parliamentary
                    Friendship Group, which has been promoting the idea of closer
                    Turkish-Azeri relations for some time. In 2006 Jafarov maintained,
                    the idea of a Parliamentary Assembly of Turkish States began to gain
                    serious traction, commenting, "Azerbaijan's suggestion of
                    establishing a Parliamentary Assembly of Turkish States has been
                    approved by all. The format of the Assembly is to be discussed.
                    Creation of this assembly is inevitable. The ongoing processes in the
                    world make it necessary to set up an organization of Turkish states
                    at least on parliament level' (Today.az, February 28, 2006). As
                    envisaged, the Turkish States' Parliamentary Assembly would consist
                    of delegates from Azerbaijan, Turkey, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan,
                    Kyrgyzstan, and Turkmenistan.

                    An important element of Jafarov's plan was Armenia's reaction to such
                    an assembly. The following month Jafarov said, "The Armenian media
                    writes that Turk nations will create a Turanian State and claims that
                    and this state will be against Armenians... The establishment of such
                    an assembly is important for the maintenance of harmony in the world
                    and is not in contradiction with the norms and principles of
                    international law. On the other hand, Armenians are far fewer in
                    number than Turks. There are 100 million Turks in the world and only
                    about 10 million Armenians. Despite this we will discuss the
                    `Armenian issue' after the formation of the Assembly" (Today.az,
                    March 27, 2006).

                    On the Turkish side, a non-governmental organization, the
                    Turkish-Speaking States' and Communities' Friendship, Fraternity, and
                    Cooperation Foundation (TUDEV) and the annual Friendship,
                    Brotherhood, and Cooperation Congress of the Turkic States and
                    Communities have played a major part in promoting the concept.

                    The First Friendship, Brotherhood, and Cooperation Congress of the
                    Turkic States and Communities took place on March 21, 1993, in
                    Antalya, and the next nine congresses were subsequently held in
                    Turkey, attracting more delegates each year (Busra Ersanli Behar,
                    `Turkism in Turkey and Azerbaijan in the 1990s,' Eurasian Studies
                    1996). Over 900 delegates attended the 8th annual TUDEV meeting,
                    March 24-26, 2000; and 500 were from Anatolia. Then-Turkish president
                    Suleyman Demirel was present along with Deputy Prime Minister and
                    Chairman of the Nationalist Action Party (MHP) Devlet Bahceli, seven
                    other Ministers, and almost 50 deputies. For the first time
                    representatives of the Turks in Tunisia and Mongolia also attended
                    (Anadolu Ajansi, March 23, 2000).

                    Last November Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, along with
                    Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus President Mehmet Ali Telet,
                    attended the 11th Friendship, Brotherhood, and Cooperation Congress
                    of the Turkic States and Communities in Baku. The previous ten
                    congresses were held in Turkey, with the last occurring in Antalya on
                    September 18-20, 2006. At the Antalya conference Turkish authorities
                    first suggested a political alliance of this kind, with an
                    international Turkic union subsequently becoming Erdogan's idee fixe,
                    (Nezavisimaya gazeta, November 26, 2006).

                    Also present at the gathering were nearly 800 delegates from over 30
                    countries. Both Erdogan and Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev
                    addressed the Congress. In his most implicit endorsement of closer
                    cooperation between Turkic nations, Erdogan told the delegates, `It
                    is time for establishing planned and coordinated cooperation among
                    Turkic republics,' suggesting the founding of a permanent secretariat
                    of the heads of Turkish-speaking states. `This Permanent Secretariat
                    will keep an eye on what we have done, what we are doing, and what we
                    will do, and prepare us for the next Congress. On the other hand, we
                    should start working on establishing the Inter-Parliamentary Council
                    and Advisory Council, which honorable Nursultan Nazarbayev, the
                    President of Kazakhstan, discussed with the leaders at the
                    Turkish-speaking states summit in Antalya. (Azerbaycan Respublikasi
                    Istanbul Bas Konsullugu, November 17, 2007).

                    For Jafarov, the issue already has an irresistible momentum of its
                    own, and `in the next decade the process of transforming the Turkish
                    language into the united language of the Turkish peoples will be
                    completed' (Trend, January 10).

                    But the concept has already brushed up against political reality,
                    with both Turkey and Azerbaijan claiming credit for the concept and
                    eventual leadership of the organization. For the Azeris, the recent
                    Congress solidified Azerbaijan's leadership. According to Nazim
                    Ibrahimov, head of the State Committee on Work with Azerbaijanis
                    Living Abroad, `This congress, which was held on the initiative of
                    President Ilham Aliyev, brought new tone to the Turkish world. In the
                    worldwide Turkish diaspora all Turks are speaking about the congress
                    in Baku. They consider the Azerbaijani President as a new leader of
                    Turkish world' (APA, December 30).

                    While Azerbaijan's immense oil wealth gives it a rising presence in
                    the Turkic world, it remains to be seen if that will translate into
                    substantial political power in the Inter-Parliamentary Council and
                    Advisory Council, proposed by Turkey, and whether the heads of the
                    five former Soviet Turkic states will, in fact, be ready to surrender
                    any national sovereignty to such a body. If Azerbaijan and Turkey
                    cannot even agree regarding who provided the impetus for the idea,
                    further integration of the Turkish-speaking world still seems a
                    distant goal.




                    TURKEY: SEEKING AN OUTLET FOR EXPANSION

                    Stratfor
                    Dec 12 2007

                    Summary

                    Turkey is flexing its muscles as it seeks an avenue to expand.

                    Analysis

                    Turkish President Abdullah Gul arrived in Kazakhstan on Dec. 12
                    for a three-day visit primarily aimed at furthering Turkish business
                    interests in the region. The visit is symptomatic of a country seeking
                    an outlet for its rising power and ambition.

                    Turkey is a rising power economically, militarily and politically,
                    with an economy worth some $400 billion and the second-largest military
                    in NATO. Yet it is also a country rather conflicted about its place
                    in the world. Since the end of World War I the Turks have existed in
                    a sort of cultural limbo, shunning their Islamic and imperial past,
                    yet being denied full membership in the West in general, and the
                    European Union in specific.

                    Over the past decade, the Turks have come to terms with the idea
                    that they have made it as far into Europe as Europe will allow:
                    They enjoy a customs union with the European Union, an agreement
                    functionally equivalent to the U.S.-Mexico relationship via NAFTA. But
                    EU membership is out of the question. Now, they are casting about
                    for a new national goal.

                    The lands surrounding modern Turkey echo with the voices of Turkey's
                    imperial past. All provide certain opportunities for the expansion of
                    Turkish influence, yet none of the options leap out as being obvious --
                    and none will be easy.

                    In Central Asia, cultural links to the region's Turkic peoples may give
                    the Turks access -- but the Russians have deeper and more recent ties,
                    while the Chinese are splashing around more money. The Balkans provide
                    Turkey a chance to leverage NATO links and cultural connections and
                    force the Europeans to treat them with respect, but ultimately it is
                    Brussels and Washington who most reliably shape events in Southeastern
                    Europe. Working in the Caucasus helps buffer Turkey against a resurging
                    Russia, but there is strong competition from not only Russia, but
                    also Iran and Armenia. The only reason Iraqi Kurdistan has proven
                    so hot-button in recent months is because the Turks perceive Kurdish
                    autonomy across their southern border as a direct threat to the unity
                    of Turkey itself. Like in its other spheres of potential interest,
                    Turkey has no particular advantage in operating to its south either.

                    Yet Turkish power continues to rise, and it is only a matter of
                    time before it seeks an outlet. Its economy has stabilized after
                    a 2001 crash, and has grown strongly ever since. The government is
                    consolidated under a single party to a degree absent since the time
                    of Kemal Ataturk. The military is strong, flexible and deployable.

                    This broad-spectrum strength allows Turkey to have its fingers in a lot
                    of different pots. The only thing lacking is a strategic decision by
                    the Turks about which direction is most important to Turkey. Once that
                    decision is made, there are no internal barriers to Turkish movement.

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                      Re: Temporarily So Called Turkey and the World: Perceptions, Relations...

                      Looking East Into Its Past...or Its Future??? (Part II)

                      ANKARA MAKES CAUCASUS AND CENTRAL ASIA A DIPLOMATIC PRIORITY - TURKISH PRESIDENT
                      Richard Weitz

                      EurasiaNet, NY
                      Jan 9 2008

                      Promoting peace and stability in the Caucasus and Central Asia is an
                      "important item" on Turkey's foreign policy agenda, Turkish President
                      Abdullah Gul said in an address in Washington, DC. Gul's visit to
                      the United States was devoted largely to heralding the return of a
                      solid US-Turkish strategic partnership.

                      Making his first trip to the United States as head of state, Gul, a
                      former foreign minister, portrayed Turkey as a diplomatic trailblazer
                      for the United States in several "hot spots." In a January 8 policy
                      address given at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars,
                      Gul emphasized that Turkey has maintained "good relations with most
                      of our neighbors."

                      Gul compared the South Caucasus to the Middle East in terms of its
                      "underlying instability." He maintained that Turkey "shares a similar
                      vision with the United States" for the region, with Ankara aiming to
                      help Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia make "their long walk towards a
                      sound democracy." He also said Turkey was interested in promoting the
                      "development of their fragile economies" and the "settlement of their
                      ethnic and territorial disputes." [For background see the Eurasia
                      Insight archive].

                      While acknowledging the lack of a "quick-fix solution" for regional
                      problems, Gul offered that "establishing sound regional cooperation
                      is a good point to start." He pointed to the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan
                      oil pipeline, the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum natural gas pipeline, and
                      the Baku-Tbilisi railway as vehicles for both the prosperity and
                      stabilization of the Caspian Basin.

                      While such initiatives have helped Turkey solidify ties with Azerbaijan
                      and Georgia, they have not helped Ankara normalize relations with
                      Armenia. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive]. Gul did
                      not elaborate on any specific measures that could alleviate the
                      persisting enmity in Turkish-Armenian relations, or promote lasting
                      peace settlements in Nagorno-Karabkah, Abkhazia or South Ossetia.

                      Striving to further illustrate Turkey's regional security role,
                      Gul cited Afghanistan, where "we have been projecting an active,
                      positive contribution since the September 11 terrorist attacks." These
                      contributions include twice commanding the International Security
                      Assistance Force, providing substantial civil and humanitarian
                      assistance, and helping revitalize Afghanistan's economy through the
                      presence of large numbers of Turkish contractors.

                      Gul also mentioned that Turkey was using its "historically close
                      relations" with Islamabad to promote security cooperation between
                      Afghanistan and Pakistan. Last April, the Turkish government invited
                      Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his Pakistani counterpart, Pervez
                      Musharraf, to attend a summit in Ankara. At that meeting, they pledged
                      to deny sanctuary, training and financing to Islamic militants and
                      exchange intelligence on terrorist threats. [For background see the
                      Eurasia Insight archive].

                      Gul went on to described Iran as representing "a complex picture
                      in our region." While affirming that Turkey "actively supports a
                      diplomatic settlement of the conflict about Iran's nuclear program,"
                      he cautioned that "we strongly oppose nuclear proliferation and
                      nuclear weapons in our region."

                      In his joint press conference at the White House earlier on January
                      8, US President George W. Bush hailed Turkey a strategic partner of
                      the United States, saying that Ankara and Washington in recent months
                      "have worked hard to make [relations] strong." He stated that the two
                      governments "deal with common problems," though the only issue Bush
                      specifically cited was the "continuing fight against a common enemy,
                      and that's terrorists."

                      Bush reaffirmed his administration's support for Turkey's entry into
                      the European Union (EU), pointing out that "Turkey sets a fantastic
                      example for nations around the world to see where it's possible
                      to have a democracy coexist with a great religion like Islam." In
                      addition, he argued that Turkey's accession to the EU would be "in
                      the interest of peace" because Turkey could serve as "a constructive
                      bridge" that brings Europe and the Islamic world closer together.

                      In describing his private discussions with the Turkish president,
                      Bush revealed that the two touched on "the need for all of us to help
                      secure more energy supplies." The US president also informed Gul about
                      his upcoming Middle Eastern tour. It was the type of conversation,
                      Bush said, that occurs "when two friends are in the room together."

                      During a subsequent teleconference, a "senior administration official"
                      explained that the Turkish-American relationship qualified as a
                      "strategic partnership" due to "the fact that we deal with a whole
                      range of issues with Turkey, not just bilateral issues, but issues,
                      security issues around the world." The official indicated the Bush and
                      Gul exchanged ideas on an array of foreign-policy topics, including
                      Kosovo, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

                      Gul placed the bilateral relationship within a larger multinational
                      context: "We share a common vision and we work together, and the
                      relations between the two countries are such that they have an
                      impact not only on the two countries, but also on a regional and
                      global scale."





                      TURKEY SHOULD HELP ESTABLISH AN ECONOMIC UNION OF TURKIC STATES, VASILLOPULOS

                      Turkish Press
                      Nov 22 2007

                      ANKARA - Dr. Christopher Vasillopulos, professor of political science
                      at Eastern Connecticut State University (ECSU), said Wednesday Turkey
                      should help establish an economic union of Turkic states.

                      Speaking at a seminar in Ankara's TOBB University of Economics and
                      Technology, Vasillopulos indicated that an economic union of Turkic
                      states would be beneficial for Turkey and other Turkish communities.

                      "A Turkey that establishes a Turkic economic union would be attractive
                      for the European Union (EU). Such an economic union would make Turkey's
                      entry into the EU easier," Vasillopulos noted.

                      In fact, the EU would come to Turkey and invite Turkey into the EU
                      after Turkey becomes a member of a Turkic economic union, Vasillopulos
                      remarked.

                      "It would be even better if Russia is also permitted into an economic
                      union of Turkic republics," Vasillopulos told.

                      "A Turkic economic union would be a threat to U.S. interests in
                      the region as the U.S. wants to control energy lines," Vasillopulos
                      underlined.

                      Touching on Turkey's geography, Vasilopulos indicated that "Turkey's
                      geography, neighboring Iran, Iraq and Syria, provides Turkey with
                      an advantage in its struggle to join the EU. Turkey's proximity to
                      energy fields, including oil reserves, gives Turkey an advantage in
                      its relations with the EU."

                      "Turkey is certainly a bridge between the West and the East. The EU
                      would benefit from Turkish membership as it can have better influence
                      in the Middle East via Turkey," Vasillopulos remarked.

                      "Turkey is a critical player in the region," Vasillopulos underscored.

                      Touching on the issue of PKK terrorism and attacks made from north of
                      Iraq into Turkey, Dr. Vasillopulos stressed that Turkey has a right
                      to defend itself and its citizens.

                      "Turkey should decide when it must take a military action against
                      terrorists. A country must decide on its own for action when it is
                      under attack. A surgical, limited and careful military action is
                      desirable against terrorists attacking Turkey," Vasillopulos noted.

                      Asked about what he thinks on intelligence sharing between the general
                      staffs of Turkey and the United States on terrorist PKK organization,
                      Dr. Vasillopulos underlined that intelligence sharing is not a new
                      topic. As two allies, Turkey and the U.S. have been sharing information
                      for a long time, Vasillopulos said.

                      "Further intelligence sharing may be useful for Turkey," Vasillopulos
                      told.

                      In response to a question on the establishment of an independent
                      Kurdish state in northern Iraq, Vasillopulos told that there is
                      already a de facto Kurdish state operating in north of Iraq.

                      "An independent Kurdish state will not be a threat to Turkey and
                      Turkey's territorial integrity unless Kurdish extremists demand a
                      'great Kurdistan' and PKK receives support, including weapons, from
                      an independent Kurdistan," Vasillopulos stressed.

                      "There is a limit to what the Turks will tolerate vis-a-vis north of
                      Iraq," Vasillopulos noted. "I would like to add that the Democratic
                      Society Party (DTP) should not be closed as such a situation would
                      lead many to fall into the hands of PKK."

                      In regard to a bill supporting Armenian allegations about the incidents
                      of 1915 in the U.S. Congress, Vasillopulos noted that Speaker of
                      the U.S. House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi has a constituency in
                      California in which there are thousands of Armenian Americans.

                      "The Armenian lobby is extremely successful in the U.S. There must
                      be an international conference, preferably in Istanbul, that brings
                      together scholars from all around the world to study archives related
                      to the early 20th century. All mass murders, including the massacre
                      of American Indians, should be discussed at this conference,"
                      Vasillopulos told.

                      In reference to Turkey's initiative with Spain, titled "Alliance
                      of Civilizations", Vasillopulos stressed that it is an important
                      initiative for global peace. "I would personally want to be involved
                      in this project of the Alliance of Civilizations," Vasillopulos said.

                      Closing his remarks, Professor Vasillopulos underlined that Turkey
                      does not need U.S. support to become a well developed, modern
                      society. Sooner or later, Turkey will be a powerful state.

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