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  • felizitation
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    Originally posted by loseyourname I don't have the slightest clue what you mean by soliciting my fingers (I'm assuming that's the word you meant to use - correct me if I'm wrong).

    I don't see how you can say love is immature. Falling in love prematurely and stupidly, maybe. But love itself is far different. I don't really think there can be much doubt that it exists. People certainly have feelings toward other people that can cause them to behave in ways they otherwise would not behave, ways that can arguably make them a better person, at least better to the object of the feelings. Love, however, is far more than just a feeling. Love is a committment, a conscious act of will, as you said, to treat a person as they want to be treated, as is best for their spiritual nourishment, even if the feelings may waver sometimes. Let's face it, feelings are very fickle - they come and go, but in the best relationships, they always come back, and neither party freaks out when they're not there.

    Falling in love is an act of dependence. It is an acknowledgement that no matter how happy one may be alone, how productive, how complete, they will be more so with someone else. I'm all about independence, and I can certainly get by on my own with the best of them, but you know what? I don't want to? Life can be wonderful alone, but it so much sweeter with that special someone to share it with. Humans are still social animals, and we need that intimacy. Don't discount the feeling or the act just because it may have an instinctual basis. The origin of love is not relevant to the conversation here. The existence is. You seem to not realize that by describing in relative depth what you think it may be, you are acknowledging that it is there. Don't think so much, and run with it. There are things a woman can give that a man can never give himself.
    Solicitating your fingers: making you want to write sthg
    The word itself, "love", is something so fuzzy that we can put whatever we want into it.
    We may define love by its consequences, not by itself (intrinsic definition). We may observe it, not controlling it. Even now, I'm providing properties of love, not a good definition.

    By the way, love is a notion you put BETWEEN two people. I'm not arguing (ok i'm arguing but a very little) that connection does not exist between two people. I was a little provocating (you deserve it ) but the whole idea is that I don't want to give a name ("love" for instance) to the feelings/interactions that I may have with a girl.

    "Falling in love" ... pfff . this is the immature stuff. U don't fall in love anymore, you make choices of your own free will. Too easy to say 'Falling in love', the perfect slave of the feelings, no will, no reason.

    As you said: "Don't think so much, and run with it", this is the point. Do not even try to name it, it unique and precious.
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  • loseyourname
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    Originally posted by felizitation Quoting myself, such a pleasure ...

    I do not believe in love. I associate it to a lack of maturity, to the best way to "feel" sthg for someone without knowing anything of the concerned person. It's also a way to justify our animal needs.
    It is the greatest fakeness a human brain has ever created.

    Falling in love is also a will of dependance, regarding shtg or someone, in order to be freed from ourselves. Because simply Men can't bear the idea to have a reduced field of freedom, but their will does not sustain this idea.

    I'm expecting your reactions (just forget the last threads). So dude, do I sollicitated your fingers ? (without any off-color allusions of any kind)
    I don't have the slightest clue what you mean by soliciting my fingers (I'm assuming that's the word you meant to use - correct me if I'm wrong).

    I don't see how you can say love is immature. Falling in love prematurely and stupidly, maybe. But love itself is far different. I don't really think there can be much doubt that it exists. People certainly have feelings toward other people that can cause them to behave in ways they otherwise would not behave, ways that can arguably make them a better person, at least better to the object of the feelings. Love, however, is far more than just a feeling. Love is a committment, a conscious act of will, as you said, to treat a person as they want to be treated, as is best for their spiritual nourishment, even if the feelings may waver sometimes. Let's face it, feelings are very fickle - they come and go, but in the best relationships, they always come back, and neither party freaks out when they're not there.

    Falling in love is an act of dependence. It is an acknowledgement that no matter how happy one may be alone, how productive, how complete, they will be more so with someone else. I'm all about independence, and I can certainly get by on my own with the best of them, but you know what? I don't want to? Life can be wonderful alone, but it so much sweeter with that special someone to share it with. Humans are still social animals, and we need that intimacy. Don't discount the feeling or the act just because it may have an instinctual basis. The origin of love is not relevant to the conversation here. The existence is. You seem to not realize that by describing in relative depth what you think it may be, you are acknowledging that it is there. Don't think so much, and run with it. There are things a woman can give that a man can never give himself.

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  • felizitation
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    Originally posted by felizitation We can't understand exactly what's happening on the moment.

    Maybe love is defined after the end, when this kind of physical dependence is appearing. You are sad and crying, you simply don't understand why, 2 cases:
    - you are in jail and every body is abusing you
    - you're in love
    Love is a notion defined by its end.



    By the way, we can't choose to fall in love. The only thing we may do to avoid such a pain is to live alone, to refuse dating, to refuse looking at or interserting ourselves to other people, ... to lie to ourselves by denying all our feeling.


    I have a question:
    In what extent love is tied to our conception of freedom ?
    Quoting myself, such a pleasure ...

    I do not believe in love. I associate it to a lack of maturity, to the best way to "feel" sthg for someone without knowing anything of the concerned person. It's also a way to justify our animal needs.
    It is the greatest fakeness a human brain has ever created.

    Falling in love is also a will of dependance, regarding shtg or someone, in order to be freed from ourselves. Because simply Men can't bear the idea to have a reduced field of freedom, but their will does not sustain this idea.

    I'm expecting your reactions (just forget the last threads). So dude, do I sollicitated your fingers ? (without any off-color allusions of any kind)

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  • loseyourname
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    Come on guys. I meant this seriously. The only people that actually talked about falling in love were Tigran and Libra. Don't any of you have a conflicting viewpoint. Women especially - presumably you have something positive to say about the phenomenon.

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  • felizitation
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    Originally posted by ckBejug Didn't I just say she likes you? I thought that's what I said...
    You should have said "Jahannamig vous aime bien" to put some nuance. "Jahannamig vous aime" = "Jahannamig LOVES you"

    I like every girl. I love mama.

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  • ckBejug
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    Originally posted by felizitation Intch gesses ?
    I'm sending her the mariage contract...
    Didn't I just say she likes you? I thought that's what I said...

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  • felizitation
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    Originally posted by ckBejug Raffi.... felizitation.... Jahannamig vous aime.
    Intch gesses ?
    I'm sending her the mariage contract...

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  • ckBejug
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    Raffi.... felizitation.... Jahannamig vous aime.

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  • Emil
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    Originally posted by Baron Dants OOOOOO, I got the moderator's suppooooort! NANI NANI BOO BOO!!

    heh, you kick derrière Emil. And since we're in the love forum, I LOVE YOU!!!!

    ok, I went too far there...
    Baron,

    You're my brother from another mother that I never had.

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  • xBaron Dants
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    Originally posted by Emil Now, THAT was funny.
    OOOOOO, I got the moderator's suppooooort! NANI NANI BOO BOO!!

    heh, you kick derrière Emil. And since we're in the love forum, I LOVE YOU!!!!

    ok, I went too far there...

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