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  • #31
    Originally posted by felizitation I may speak slowly
    I was saying that, since we have the reason (contrary to animals), we are always trying to intellectualise our feelings.

    The point is that feeling/passions are, by their nature, impossible to be intellectualized.



    Dont' you see any improvement in my english ?
    I think I understood you the first time, but wasn't sure because of the way you put your words.

    As far as your English goes, you have nothing to worry about.

    And by the way, I agree with what you said.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by felizitation
      In what extent love is tied to our conception of freedom ?
      good question.
      might even be in its own thread.
      in my opinion, the connection between love and freedom is strong. when you're ready to love someone, you're willing to give up a lot of your own freedom. and freedom is the only reason for people who are "scared" of love to deny love.
      and this is where males and females differ psychologically when it comes to love.
      males seem to be much more willing to keep their freedom by not being tied to anyone.
      Personal Freedom has always been most important to guys.
      but in my case, per say, I'm free when I'm happy. and I'm happy when I've found someone I can make happy who makes me happy back!
      I mean there CAN NOT be a better feeling. it's just too bad I don't know what that feeling is like.
      - and you're gonna forget about me?
      =Every Day...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by jahannam it's just too bad I don't know what that feeling is like.
        I said : "Love is a notion defined by its end".
        Sad but true.

        I'm preparing a long long answer in my mind, but I really really have to work now...
        "C'était un des principes fondamentaux de la doctrine Gradgrind que toute chose devait être payée. Personne ne devait jamais, en aucun cas, rien donner à qui que ce fût sans compensation. La gratitude devait être abolie et les bienfaits qui en découlent n'avaient aucune raison d'être. Chaque pouce de l'existence des humains, depuis la naissance jusqu'à la mort, devait être un marché réglé comptant. Et s'il était impossible de gagner le ciel de cette façon, cela signifiait que le ciel n'était pas un lieu régi par l'économie politique et que l'on n'avait rien à y faire."
        - D.i.c.k.e.n.s., "Temps Difficiles", 1854.

        ... stupid words filter. xxxxens is an author!!!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by felizitation I said : "Love is a notion defined by its end".
          Sad but true.
          I don't know what you mean.
          - and you're gonna forget about me?
          =Every Day...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jahannam I don't know what you mean.
            I meant you're unable to say if you are in love during the "love".

            You may say "I was in love".
            What makes you understand you were in love is that you lost sthg/s.one.

            That is why I said love is defined by its end, implying the end of what create love.
            "C'était un des principes fondamentaux de la doctrine Gradgrind que toute chose devait être payée. Personne ne devait jamais, en aucun cas, rien donner à qui que ce fût sans compensation. La gratitude devait être abolie et les bienfaits qui en découlent n'avaient aucune raison d'être. Chaque pouce de l'existence des humains, depuis la naissance jusqu'à la mort, devait être un marché réglé comptant. Et s'il était impossible de gagner le ciel de cette façon, cela signifiait que le ciel n'était pas un lieu régi par l'économie politique et que l'on n'avait rien à y faire."
            - D.i.c.k.e.n.s., "Temps Difficiles", 1854.

            ... stupid words filter. xxxxens is an author!!!

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            • #36
              hmmm
              interesting
              I've written a research paper about that , but about happiness.
              you can never know you're happy when you're happy.
              we only REMEMBER being happy, we don't LIVE it.
              so you're saying love is a memory also?
              I duno... I'll think about it, and I"ll get back to you.
              nice theory though.
              - and you're gonna forget about me?
              =Every Day...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by jahannam .
                you can never know you're happy when you're happy.
                we only REMEMBER being happy, we don't LIVE it.
                Very debatable...There have been many times when I was happy and I knew that I was so.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by jahannam hmmm
                  interesting
                  I've written a research paper about that , but about happiness.
                  you can never know you're happy when you're happy.
                  we only REMEMBER being happy, we don't LIVE it.
                  so you're saying love is a memory also?
                  I duno... I'll think about it, and I"ll get back to you.
                  nice theory though.
                  Not exactly a memory, but a changing state. Human kind only notice the changing states ...
                  By the way, I don't believe in human happiness, what we are living is just a set of satisfactions.
                  "C'était un des principes fondamentaux de la doctrine Gradgrind que toute chose devait être payée. Personne ne devait jamais, en aucun cas, rien donner à qui que ce fût sans compensation. La gratitude devait être abolie et les bienfaits qui en découlent n'avaient aucune raison d'être. Chaque pouce de l'existence des humains, depuis la naissance jusqu'à la mort, devait être un marché réglé comptant. Et s'il était impossible de gagner le ciel de cette façon, cela signifiait que le ciel n'était pas un lieu régi par l'économie politique et que l'on n'avait rien à y faire."
                  - D.i.c.k.e.n.s., "Temps Difficiles", 1854.

                  ... stupid words filter. xxxxens is an author!!!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Baron Dants Very debatable...There have been many times when I was happy and I knew that I was so.
                    I own this, but I've never had the time nor the courage to pass the 8th page:

                    http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASI...238945-2487365

                    It contains EVERY answers concerning what we may wonder about happyness.
                    "C'était un des principes fondamentaux de la doctrine Gradgrind que toute chose devait être payée. Personne ne devait jamais, en aucun cas, rien donner à qui que ce fût sans compensation. La gratitude devait être abolie et les bienfaits qui en découlent n'avaient aucune raison d'être. Chaque pouce de l'existence des humains, depuis la naissance jusqu'à la mort, devait être un marché réglé comptant. Et s'il était impossible de gagner le ciel de cette façon, cela signifiait que le ciel n'était pas un lieu régi par l'économie politique et que l'on n'avait rien à y faire."
                    - D.i.c.k.e.n.s., "Temps Difficiles", 1854.

                    ... stupid words filter. xxxxens is an author!!!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Baron Dants Very debatable...There have been many times when I was happy and I knew that I was so.
                      and you stood there, thinking "wow I'm' happy"???
                      IIIII don't think so.
                      - and you're gonna forget about me?
                      =Every Day...

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