Armenian woman identity/role

[gegev]

Re: Armenian woman identity/role

Gegev, I'm sorry. I didn't realize this was directed at me. Perhaps I confused you when you asked me about my sexual orientation. Though I am bisexual (meaning i like boys AND girls), I have a boyfriend at the moment and we plan to marry - just I want to get done with school first before we tie the knot. However, even if I was to marry a female, it'd be illegal unless it changes eventually in the future.

I see US is not that democratic country, as you wish.

Some bisexuals reached excellence by becoming three sexual; having intercourse with dogs as well. Those are the ones to ....admire .... I think it is the real, next challenge for them.

So, I think your bisexual courses are not needed here, because, excluding you, I guess, most of us; Armenian woman/men are not that advanced/talented to be more than one sexual.

[Tali]

Re: Armenian woman identity/role

I agree that it shouldn't matter, but to some people (and still some cultures) it does. For instance, my bf's family emphasizes that i nbe able to host and be sociable.

[KanadaHye]

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perhaps. it's similar to mexican and chinese cultures as well. girls dont do those things, the guys do.

If you take things like sewing which are defined to be "female" roles, a lot of industrial sewing machines were used by shoe cobblers which were men. When singer created an industry around the sewing machine, they also marketed the machine to women to get them into every household. It made sense economically at the time, especially since tailors which were generally men were expensive. A lot of these stereotypes are nonsense. A skill is a skill regardless of who is doing it.

[Tali]

Re: Armenian woman identity/role

perhaps. it's similar to mexican and chinese cultures as well. girls dont do those things, the guys do.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian woman identity/role

Well, for starters, they switched me from shorts and skirts to jeans and pants, blouses to polo shirts, etc. They had me speak more like a man than a young girl. They started instructing me on how to use tools (hammer, lawn mower, sandpaper, saws, etc). I was learning how to do repairs (i fixed our side gate quite a few times). I learned how to play video games and not dolls. My professions they pushed me to were (when i was being raised) pretty much "male jobs": doctor, lawyer, governor, etc. Even though I was in Girl Scouts, my parents made sure I got more time with Boy Scouts (my brother was a Boy Scout). They made sure I did a lot of sports and academics instead of hanging out with friends. They frowned upon shopping and being "fashionable." My father forbade me to wear make up until after I graduated high school. My hair cuts were straight-forward, masculine ones. I was not permitted to dye my hair or paint my nails. I was not permitted to date in high school (all my dating was pretty much done in secret). If I was sent with my mother to the grocery store, my role was to build muscles by carrying as many grocery bags as I could. It was my job to bring them into the house but not my job to put them away - that was left to my mother. I was never taught how to cook, or sew.

That was the majority of my earliest existence. It wasn't until high school where I had to learn to be more feminine because my mother opened her own business and needed me to look "girly".

Sounds pretty Catholic to me. Perhaps you're attributing what's boyish or girlish to American standards.

[Tali]

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How were you raised like a 'boy'?

Well, for starters, they switched me from shorts and skirts to jeans and pants, blouses to polo shirts, etc. They had me speak more like a man than a young girl. They started instructing me on how to use tools (hammer, lawn mower, sandpaper, saws, etc). I was learning how to do repairs (i fixed our side gate quite a few times). I learned how to play video games and not dolls. My professions they pushed me to were (when i was being raised) pretty much "male jobs": doctor, lawyer, governor, etc. Even though I was in Girl Scouts, my parents made sure I got more time with Boy Scouts (my brother was a Boy Scout). They made sure I did a lot of sports and academics instead of hanging out with friends. They frowned upon shopping and being "fashionable." My father forbade me to wear make up until after I graduated high school. My hair cuts were straight-forward, masculine ones. I was not permitted to dye my hair or paint my nails. I was not permitted to date in high school (all my dating was pretty much done in secret). If I was sent with my mother to the grocery store, my role was to build muscles by carrying as many grocery bags as I could. It was my job to bring them into the house but not my job to put them away - that was left to my mother. I was never taught how to cook, or sew.

That was the majority of my earliest existence. It wasn't until high school where I had to learn to be more feminine because my mother opened her own business and needed me to look "girly".

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian woman identity/role

That's essentially what i'm asking. What do parents teach their female children?

My parents raised me like i was a boy child and added feminity as secondary teaching.

They pretty much just pick up what they see their parents do.... really doesn't require teaching. How were you raised like a 'boy'?

[Tali]

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Can we not bring in the topic of bisexuals into this?

I agree, so i created an entire different thread about it:
http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....781#post305781

Not sure how to answer this. Armenian men and women get their masculinity and femininity respectively from their parents.

That's essentially what i'm asking. What do parents teach their female children?

My parents raised me like i was a boy child and added feminity as secondary teaching.

[KanadaHye]

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So, I have a couple questions regarding identities/roles.

I hear a lot about how I need to help "repopulate the Armenian numbers".
Question 1: how many kids are considered the ideal number?

As many as an Armenian couple can afford to raise and provide for. This includes proper schooling, clothing and housing. We don't do ghettos.

I am what's known as the "accidental cook." I don't know how, but everything I make turns out good enough.
Question 2: what kind of meals are supposed to be "staples"? In other words, what kind of dishes should I know how to make?

If you get involved in the Armenian community, you'll naturally learn the dishes from other family members or "guilds". A lot of the food requires craftsmanship. It's like an art. The cooking is the easy part.

I was raised very masculine by my parents. Though I can be pretty feminine when "appropriate".
Question 3: what is expected of wives in Armenian culture?

I'm sure I'll think of more questions, but I'm mostly curious. I'm sorry if I turn into your ideal wife - I'm spoken for

Not sure how to answer this. Armenian men and women get their masculinity and femininity respectively from their parents.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian woman identity/role

The question here is, does he know you too well???? (about being bisexual)

In my personal opinion bisexuals are spoiled, confused and brainwashed people, a product of Hollywoodian and western media brainwashing conspiracy promotion, which confused people think it’s cool, different and unique to announce about they being bi and announce it proudly, as if they deserve a medal of honor. How come it’s ok and cool to be bisexual, and it’s not ok and not cool to like 2 girls or 2 women at the same time?

This is also a by product of radical feminism. Men are scum and don't deserve to reproduce. This type of promotion on the young and impressionable is far more effective than any genocide. I hope Armenian women are aware of the agenda and aren't as easily susceptible to the propaganda.