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  • #31
    Re: Armenian woman identity/role

    Originally posted by Tali View Post
    That's essentially what i'm asking. What do parents teach their female children?

    My parents raised me like i was a boy child and added feminity as secondary teaching.
    They pretty much just pick up what they see their parents do.... really doesn't require teaching. How were you raised like a 'boy'?
    Last edited by KanadaHye; 02-11-2011, 10:34 AM.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #32
      Re: Armenian woman identity/role

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      How were you raised like a 'boy'?
      Well, for starters, they switched me from shorts and skirts to jeans and pants, blouses to polo shirts, etc. They had me speak more like a man than a young girl. They started instructing me on how to use tools (hammer, lawn mower, sandpaper, saws, etc). I was learning how to do repairs (i fixed our side gate quite a few times). I learned how to play video games and not dolls. My professions they pushed me to were (when i was being raised) pretty much "male jobs": doctor, lawyer, governor, etc. Even though I was in Girl Scouts, my parents made sure I got more time with Boy Scouts (my brother was a Boy Scout). They made sure I did a lot of sports and academics instead of hanging out with friends. They frowned upon shopping and being "fashionable." My father forbade me to wear make up until after I graduated high school. My hair cuts were straight-forward, masculine ones. I was not permitted to dye my hair or paint my nails. I was not permitted to date in high school (all my dating was pretty much done in secret). If I was sent with my mother to the grocery store, my role was to build muscles by carrying as many grocery bags as I could. It was my job to bring them into the house but not my job to put them away - that was left to my mother. I was never taught how to cook, or sew.

      That was the majority of my earliest existence. It wasn't until high school where I had to learn to be more feminine because my mother opened her own business and needed me to look "girly".

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      • #33
        Re: Armenian woman identity/role

        Originally posted by Tali View Post
        Well, for starters, they switched me from shorts and skirts to jeans and pants, blouses to polo shirts, etc. They had me speak more like a man than a young girl. They started instructing me on how to use tools (hammer, lawn mower, sandpaper, saws, etc). I was learning how to do repairs (i fixed our side gate quite a few times). I learned how to play video games and not dolls. My professions they pushed me to were (when i was being raised) pretty much "male jobs": doctor, lawyer, governor, etc. Even though I was in Girl Scouts, my parents made sure I got more time with Boy Scouts (my brother was a Boy Scout). They made sure I did a lot of sports and academics instead of hanging out with friends. They frowned upon shopping and being "fashionable." My father forbade me to wear make up until after I graduated high school. My hair cuts were straight-forward, masculine ones. I was not permitted to dye my hair or paint my nails. I was not permitted to date in high school (all my dating was pretty much done in secret). If I was sent with my mother to the grocery store, my role was to build muscles by carrying as many grocery bags as I could. It was my job to bring them into the house but not my job to put them away - that was left to my mother. I was never taught how to cook, or sew.

        That was the majority of my earliest existence. It wasn't until high school where I had to learn to be more feminine because my mother opened her own business and needed me to look "girly".
        Sounds pretty Catholic to me. Perhaps you're attributing what's boyish or girlish to American standards.
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • #34
          Re: Armenian woman identity/role

          perhaps. it's similar to mexican and chinese cultures as well. girls dont do those things, the guys do.

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          • #35
            Re: Armenian woman identity/role

            Originally posted by Tali View Post
            perhaps. it's similar to mexican and chinese cultures as well. girls dont do those things, the guys do.
            If you take things like sewing which are defined to be "female" roles, a lot of industrial sewing machines were used by shoe cobblers which were men. When singer created an industry around the sewing machine, they also marketed the machine to women to get them into every household. It made sense economically at the time, especially since tailors which were generally men were expensive. A lot of these stereotypes are nonsense. A skill is a skill regardless of who is doing it.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #36
              Re: Armenian woman identity/role

              I agree that it shouldn't matter, but to some people (and still some cultures) it does. For instance, my bf's family emphasizes that i nbe able to host and be sociable.

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              • #37
                Re: Armenian woman identity/role

                Originally posted by Tali View Post
                Gegev, I'm sorry. I didn't realize this was directed at me. Perhaps I confused you when you asked me about my sexual orientation. Though I am bisexual (meaning i like boys AND girls), I have a boyfriend at the moment and we plan to marry - just I want to get done with school first before we tie the knot. However, even if I was to marry a female, it'd be illegal unless it changes eventually in the future.
                I see US is not that democratic country, as you wish.

                Some bisexuals reached excellence by becoming three sexual; having intercourse with dogs as well. Those are the ones to ....admire .... I think it is the real, next challenge for them.

                So, I think your bisexual courses are not needed here, because, excluding you, I guess, most of us; Armenian woman/men are not that advanced/talented to be more than one sexual.
                Last edited by gegev; 02-11-2011, 09:54 PM.

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                • #38
                  Re: Armenian woman identity/role

                  Gegev, I created a separate thread to discuss this. You can find it also under "Love and Romance." It's title has your name in it so it shouldn't be hard to find. I'll respond to this over there. I will just copy your quote directly.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Armenian woman identity/role

                    Originally posted by Tali View Post
                    Gegev, I created a separate thread to discuss this. You can find it also under "Love and Romance." It's title has your name in it so it shouldn't be hard to find. I'll respond to this over there. I will just copy your quote directly.
                    I’m reluctant to advocate for your agenda ... indirectly, too.
                    Last edited by gegev; 02-12-2011, 09:02 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Armenian woman identity/role

                      Originally posted by gegev View Post
                      I’m reluctant to advocate for your agenda ... indirectly, too.
                      advocating my agenda... that sounds like i'm running for President.
                      Well, I'm just following forum rules. You are getting off topic in this thread, so I created another thread which is entirely on-topic and lets you vent about how much you hate me b/c i'm bisexual. so, the choice you have isn't whether you like or dislike (you've made it obvious you dislike) my bisexuality, it's whether or not you'll obey forum rules.

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