I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

[Hai]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

The focus on gay topics in the US is to discourage thinking about serious issues. To begin with, the average american population is not well read or educated and could easily be diverted by topics of not great significance.
Finally, marriage is a form of prostitution that is officiated by the church.

This gay marriage is just another part of the theater.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

That's great. But do you now agree that the poor "working class" as you call it can benefit greatly from marriage? And back to the point of gays: Do you now see why gays might want the same kind of benefits? (it seemed before you didn't realize how much benefit there is in marriage for the poorer classes (working, immigrant, non working, ghetto, farming, or not).

Yeah, so freaks like Elton John can get hosed out of their fortunes like everyone else.

[Sip]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

That's the working class Sip. There is an entire underclass that isn't even on record. The migrant workers are used in every "wealthy" country to harvest crops, do farm work and other seasonal jobs.

That's great. But do you now agree that the poor "working class" as you call it can benefit greatly from marriage? And back to the point of gays: Do you now see why gays might want the same kind of benefits? (it seemed before you didn't realize how much benefit there is in marriage for the poorer classes (working, immigrant, non working, ghetto, farming, or not).

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

That's not how "poverty" is defined when they report % of households/individuals living below the poverty threshold. You're defining things to fit your claims again.

I'm defining things that fit reality. When "they" create reports, a large portion of the population isn't even in the record books.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Who do you think works at McDonalds and Walmart 60 hours a week for min wage? I really really doubt it's the "rich".

Unless you are trying to say the poor that are born in the ghetto don't work and all the ones that work are immigrants who die before 60? Kanada, I'm sorry but you make zero sense again

That's the working class Sip. There is an entire underclass that isn't even on record. The migrant workers are used in every "wealthy" country to harvest crops, do farm work and other seasonal jobs.

Italy: Citrus fruit pickers suffering intolerable living and working conditions

http://www.msf.org.uk/fruit_pickers_..._20081218.news

Bulgarians are flown to Britain, live in packed caravan compounds and pocket just £45 a week to pick fruit for Britain's biggest retailers

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-1740207.html

May 31, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Forty-five years after Lyndon Johnson declared a "War on Poverty," maintains a policy of mass immigration that perpetuates and increases poverty in , finds a new study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). According to Immigration, Poverty and Low-Wage Earners: The Harmful Effects of Unskilled Immigrants on American Workers, is importing millions of poorly skilled immigrants who remain mired in poverty, while further eroding wages and economic opportunities for similarly skilled native workers.

http://article.wn.com/view/2011/05/3...eport_by_FA_t/

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Who do you think works at McDonalds and Walmart 60 hours a week for min wage? I really really doubt it's the "rich".

Unless you are trying to say the poor that are born in the ghetto don't work and all the ones that work are immigrants who die before 60? Kanada, I'm sorry but you make zero sense again

You can't include the greeters at Walmart; they're all over 60 already.

[Sip]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

No, the poor are poor because they were born in the ghetto. You're referring to the immigrants who pick lettuce from the fields or separate/tear chicken parts in a meat factory for under minimum wage who probably never live to see past 60 to collect social security.

Who do you think works at McDonalds and Walmart 60 hours a week for min wage? I really really doubt it's the "rich".

Unless you are trying to say the poor that are born in the ghetto don't work and all the ones that work are immigrants who die before 60? Kanada, I'm sorry but you make zero sense again

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

No, the poor are poor because they were born in the ghetto. You're referring to the immigrants who pick lettuce from the fields or separate/tear chicken parts in a meat factory for under minimum wage who probably never live to see past 60 to collect social security. But gay marriage is a pressing issue!!!

That's not how "poverty" is defined when they report % of households/individuals living below the poverty threshold. You're defining things to fit your claims again.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Wait what? If you are below the poverty line, aren't you more likely to have to work several jobs (more than 40-50 hours a week)? Sounds to me like you are trying to say the poor are poor because they work less than the rich? That's .. ehm ... kinda ignorent

No, the poor are poor because they were born in the ghetto. You're referring to the immigrants who pick lettuce from the fields or separate/tear chicken parts in a meat factory for under minimum wage who probably never live to see past 60 to collect social security. But gay marriage is a pressing issue!!!

[Sip]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

To receive social security benefits (after retirement) You would have to have had to work full time (40-50 hours) for about 10 years. That doesn't apply to many Americans who live below the poverty line.

Wait what? If you are below the poverty line, aren't you more likely to have to work several jobs (more than 40-50 hours a week)? Sounds to me like you are trying to say the poor are poor because they work less than the rich? That's .. ehm ... kinda ignorent