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    • Originally posted by dusken
      Unbelievable. Again you ignore what I have written. Let us run through this yet again for you and all of the other slow individuals reading this ridiculous exchange. To have something be legal, in the sense we are discussing, does not mean it is stated in a book of law that it is permitted. To have something be legal does not imply government regulation. It simply means that there is no clause that prohibits it.

      Now, your stance is essentially that it should never have been addressed in a legal manner because it was nobody's right to question sexual freedom to begin with. That is all well and good but you obviously fail to see the obsolescence of that view. You are now arguing for the way peoples minds should have been around the time such actions were taken. It is a fact that you feel sexual freedom is a natural right. Fine. Permitting something that was formerly prohibited is, in itself a legal matter. There is no way around it and that is not because of process; it is because of logic and language. If you start a topic about apple pies and I say I do not like apple pies, I am still on topic.
      It's a shame that you had to dance your fingers across the keyboard to construct two fat paragraphs that make not much sense upon closer examination. What you attempted to state above was a misunderstanding of my position. My point was that, if consenting adults can have sex without paying, why should paying for it be a matter of statute law? That was it, but you, in your infinite wisdom, trying to be somehow be "logical" and "philosophical" not only misunderstood what I am saying, but you completely morphed the whole thing out of proportion. Note to you, don't try too hard to be "logical" or "philosophical" sometimes humans tend to confuse themselves. And loser actually brought up an interesting point. If you are going to disagree because of moral reasons, I can deal with it, but if you are going to disagree based on stubborn idiocy, then I find you the object of hilarity.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • Having one person having sex with many people creates a disease risk. The money only encourages the person getting paid to ignore that risk, which they wouldn't be doing if there was no money involved.
        Loser's claims that the "industry" can be regulated effectivly is not cost effective, not worth it, and not possible. Also his claim that sex with a HIV positive person can be made 100% safe is science fiction.

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        • Originally posted by patlajan
          Having one person having sex with many people creates a disease risk. The money only encourages the person getting paid to ignore that risk, which they wouldn't be doing if there was no money involved.
          Loser's claims that the "industry" can be regulated effectivly is not cost effective, not worth it, and not possible. Also his claim that sex with a HIV positive person can be made 100% safe is science fiction.
          It cannot be regulated because government only creates problems where it tries to "regulate". It is a fallacy for those who believe it can be "regulated". Look at the porn industry, under strict regulation. It has stopped for the last month and has continued to stop production because of an HIV outbreak among the porno stars. So much for regulation.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001.

            prostitution


            act of granting sexual access for payment. Although most commonly conducted by females for males, it may be performed by females or males for either females or males.

            Early History
            In ancient times and in some primitive societies, prostitution often had religious connotations—sexual intercourse with temple maidens was an act of worship to the temple deity. In Greece the hetaerae [Gr.,=companions or associates] were often women of high social status, but in Rome the meretrices were on a low social level and were forced to wear wigs and special garments signifying their trade. In the Middle Ages prostitution flourished, and licensed brothels were a source of revenue to municipalities.

            In Europe
            As a result of the epidemic of sexually transmitted disease in Europe in the 16th cent., efforts were begun to control prostitution. Brothels were closed throughout Western and Central Europe during parts of the 16th cent., and stricter punishment was meted out to those engaged in the trade. When these measures proved unsuccessful in stopping prostitution, many cities instituted even stricter controls. Berlin required medical inspection in 1700; Paris began to register its prostitutes in 1785. In Great Britain legislation to control the spread of sexually transmitted disease was embodied in a series of Contagious Diseases Prevention Acts (1864, 1866, and 1869) requiring periodic medical examination of all prostitutes in military and naval districts and the detention of all those found to be infected. Having failed to control the diseases, the acts were repealed in 1886. In 1898 the Vagrancy Act prohibited males from living on the earnings of prostitutes.

            Internationally
            During late 19th cent. efforts were made to control the international traffic in women for the purpose of prostitution. Cooperation on an international scale to stamp out such traffic began in 1899 with a congress in London. This was followed by other conferences in Amsterdam (1901), London (1902), and Paris (1904), which resulted in an international agreement providing for a specific agency in each nation to cooperate in the suppression of the international traffic in women for the purpose of prostitution. In 1919 the League of Nations appointed an official body to gather all facts pertaining to the trafficking of prostitutes, and in 1921 a conference held at Geneva and attended by 34 countries established the Committee on the Traffic in Women and Children (the work of the committee was assumed by the United Nations in 1946). In 1949 a convention for the suppression of prostitution was adopted by the UN General Assembly.

            In the United States
            In the United States, where prostitution was widespread, it was thought to be closely connected with other crimes. No major effort to stamp out prostitution appeared until about the end of the 19th cent. In 1910 the Mann Act, or White Slave Traffic Act, was passed through the efforts of James Robert Mann; it forbade under severe penalty the interstate and international transportation of women for immoral purposes. By 1915 nearly all the states had passed laws regarding the keeping of brothels or profiting in other ways from the earnings of prostitutes. Nevertheless, during World War I there was a great increase in prostitution, accompanied by an increase in sexually transmitted disease. In 1941 Congress, spurred by reports of widespread prostitution near military bases and a rise in sexually transmitted disease, passed the May Act; the law made it a federal offense to practice prostitution in areas designated by the secretaries of the army and the navy. On a local basis all states except Nevada now have legislation that makes it a crime to operate a house of prostitution. Most states have laws against all forms of prostitution, although they often exempt from prosecution the customers of prostitution. Among the many agencies in the United States and elsewhere that have worked for the suppression of prostitution are the Society for the Prevention of Crime, organized in 1877; the Committee of Fourteen (1905); the National Vigilance Association; and the American Social Hygiene Association.

            Movement toward Regulation
            Current legislation both in the United States and elsewhere concerning prostitution has tended to concern itself less with the suppression of the practice of prostitution than with the removal of crimes thought to be connected with it, although in recent years the rise in incidence of AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases has revived discussion in the United States of the regulation of prostitutes.
            Outstanding in this field of legislation is a British parliamentary act of 1959 (based on the Wolfenden Report) that treats the entire problem of prostitution and other forms of sexual conduct between consenting adults. It forbids open solicitation by prostitutes, but it permits prostitutes to practice their trade in their own homes. For those wishing to give up prostitution, the teaching of commercial or technical skills at rehabilitation centers is provided. The act also removes voluntary sexual acts between adults from the category of a punishable crime.
            Other countries, e.g., the Netherlands and Germany, have emphasized the hygienic aspect in their legislation by rigidly enforcing periodic medical examination of prostitutes and by providing free compulsory hospitalization for those found infected. This emphasis on regulation rather than suppression has resulted in a marked decline in the incidence of sexually transmitted disease and has removed an important cause of the bribery of law enforcement officers.

            Prostitution in Asia
            Prostitution in Asia has been a serious problem for many years, mainly due to economic factors (i.e., poverty and unemployment) and custom. In countries such as Thailand, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, and Indonesia, the problem is largely confined to urban areas. In India and Japan prostitution is fairly widespread in rural areas as well. In recent years most of these countries have made efforts to control prostitution by enacting legislative measures. Prostitution has been legally abolished in the People’s Republic of China since 1949; however, it has had a resurgence in the special economic zones.

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            • Originally posted by Anonymouse
              It cannot be regulated because government only creates problems where it tries to "regulate". It is a fallacy for those who believe it can be "regulated". Look at the porn industry, under strict regulation. It has stopped for the last month and has continued to stop production because of an HIV outbreak among the porno stars. So much for regulation.
              Four people have been found infected. As opposed to the hundreds infected in unregulated Brazil, where the infection came from in the first place.

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              • To legalize something and to make it illegal means that the intelectual and the civilized sociaty exists. It means that there are people who stands for justice and gives a voice to people who are abused who are poor and that overall sociaty has neglected and who has fallen into hands of capitalism and evil.

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                • Originally posted by Anonymouse
                  It cannot be regulated because government only creates problems where it tries to "regulate".
                  Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if the FCC didn't regulate the Radio Frequencies? How about the automotive industry with crash safety and emission regulation? How about regulations on the environment and national forests?

                  Government ONLY creates problems with "regulation"? Are you actually serious or am I missing the sarcasm somewhere? Like the HIV thread

                  This is not to say "problems" aren't there but "only" problems?
                  Last edited by Sip; 05-17-2004, 03:22 PM.
                  this post = teh win.

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                  • Originally posted by Tres Bien
                    To legalize something and to make it illegal means that the intelectual and the civilized sociaty exists. It means that there are people who stands for justice and gives a voice to people who are abused who are poor and that overall sociaty has neglected and who has fallen into hands of capitalism and evil.
                    Well, I'm glad there are socialistic minds like you who believe that capitalism is "evil" and socialistic governments are your savior. But then again you live in Sweden, which is socialist. Everyone who is a devout Statist believes in telling other people how to live. Essentially it is the tyranny of good intentions. So many of you mindlessly parrot the whole "live and let live" nonsense yet your support of a State directly contradicts. But you can go ahead and believe in this fallacy.
                    Achkerov kute.

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                    • How do you both legalize something and make it illegal?

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