I do not hate you or any one. Your obvious hatred of men overshadows any understanding you can have of my position. Therefore I will not bother.
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Originally posted by AnonymouseI do not hate you or any one. Your obvious hatred of men overshadows any understanding you can have of my position. Therefore I will not bother.
useful only in the kitchen and the bedroom! as long as they shut their mouths and do not express their ideas and "obey" the man...
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Meanwhile………..
Nomadic berber people living in the parts of Sahara that covers Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Mali, Niger and Burkina Faso.
Their numbers are unclear, but estimates run between 300,000 and 1 million. The Tuaregs speak a Berber language called Tamershak, to which there is a proper alphabet.
In earlier times, their 3 of their principal sources of income were taxation of caravan routs crossing Sahara, plundering settled neighbouring peoples and pastoral activities. These activities have been strongly reduced du to stronger state structures, border control, and need for control over citizens in the modern state. Hence a large part of today's Tuaregs have now moved into cities.
Tuaregs have since long converted to Islam, but their beliefs has a higher part of traditional religious elements than in many other Muslim communities.
A woman in the Tuareg societies have a strong and free position and she decides over her own life. Men, not women, wear veil in public but this has more to do with practical needs than with moral attitude — as men move more around in the desert than women, they have more need for covering and protecting their face.
However, women play so strong a role in the society, that social status depends on matrilineal descent.
The society is strongly hierarchic, divided into nobles, vassals and serfs (descendants of slaves that have faced problems breaking free from their inherited social status).
Anyway I thought it’s interesting to know that in some Islamic cultures the reverse is present. Apparently Tueregs are harshly treated and in 1990 many were massacred due to a political agenda, mainly because they claimed autonomy for their regions.
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Originally posted by anileveMeanwhile………..
Nomadic berber people living in the parts of Sahara that covers Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Mali, Niger and Burkina Faso.
Their numbers are unclear, but estimates run between 300,000 and 1 million. The Tuaregs speak a Berber language called Tamershak, to which there is a proper alphabet.
In earlier times, their 3 of their principal sources of income were taxation of caravan routs crossing Sahara, plundering settled neighbouring peoples and pastoral activities. These activities have been strongly reduced du to stronger state structures, border control, and need for control over citizens in the modern state. Hence a large part of today's Tuaregs have now moved into cities.
Tuaregs have since long converted to Islam, but their beliefs has a higher part of traditional religious elements than in many other Muslim communities.
A woman in the Tuareg societies have a strong and free position and she decides over her own life. Men, not women, wear veil in public but this has more to do with practical needs than with moral attitude — as men move more around in the desert than women, they have more need for covering and protecting their face.
However, women play so strong a role in the society, that social status depends on matrilineal descent.
The society is strongly hierarchic, divided into nobles, vassals and serfs (descendants of slaves that have faced problems breaking free from their inherited social status).
This reminds me of “The Sheltering Sky” when Debra Winger is picked up by a caravan leader and taken to his home in Algeria, where he has many wives. There he locks her in a small hut and visits her to wash her feet and legs and….nevermind. The whole scene is very sensual, especially the fact that you can only see his magnetic eyes, broad shoulders, but not his entire face. There is an aura of mystery in that scene. His face was covered with a veil and the film was shot in Algeria, so it’s safe to assume that it was a Tuareg tribe.
Anyway I thought it’s interesting to know that in some Islamic cultures the reverse is present. Apparently Tueregs are harshly treated and in 1990 many were massacred due to a political agenda, mainly because they claimed autonomy for their regions.Achkerov kute.
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If a women gets beaten by a man....it's considered bad, shocking, how can you hit a women!
But if a man gets beaten by a women...it's considered strong, standing up for yourself, he deserved it!
Sometimes you just have to hit someone to get through to them, and other times you don't. I don't condone it but if you don't like being beaten THEN GET OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP!
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Originally posted by sSsflamesSsSome people like to be beaten.
"Oh, yea baby, spank me harder!"
By the way physical abuse is not acceptable from either parties. We are not animals to be trained how not to behave. Although if these cultures consider women as mules to cook dinner and plump out babies, I am not surprised men feel as if they should teach them obedience through force.
And by the way, we forget where we live. It is not as easy in the underdeveloped cultures to have women declare separation, and beak away from her family. If they believe that men are demi-gods, I wouldn't be surprised if it's accepted for them to punish their mortal servants for abandoning them.
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