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  • #31
    btw being jewish is not a culture-- judaism is a religion not a culture- being israeli is a culture,-- therefore notice how there are persian jews-- they are FULL persian, but have the jewish faith

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    • #32
      Originally posted by patlajan
      Yes, you can go uphill on foot pushing a 100 pound weight too. It doesn't meat it's worth it. Forcing Armenian culture down the throats of kids who are only half Armenian is possible but not worth the trouble.
      Why is its value diminished so much? And who's trouble is it?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by angelik22
        btw being jewish is not a culture-- judaism is a religion not a culture- being israeli is a culture,-- therefore notice how there are persian jews-- they are FULL persian, but have the jewish faith
        I knew someone was going to say that. It is a religion that has developed its own culture and promotes itself constantly by creating as many footsoldiers as it can.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by dusken
          It is not a matter of fear. You said that there cannot be "culture-creating" and I gave a couple of significant examples where this is not true. It is many a time that someone who is half Jewish would adopt Jewish culture and someone who is half black would adopt black "culture." The mentality of alienation is what stunts contribution to culture.
          If you think things are that elastic, you do not need to be bothered with. Mixed race societies are all shytholes, precisely because they lack that homogeneity and culture creating power. Culture is a product of distinct peoples, not mixtures of races. If all Armenians started mixing with blacks, there would be a changing face of Armenian civilization, where the originals were replaced by a new mix. Honestly, if you want to justify interracial relationships, just say you prefer them, but don't go to silly reasons of why they are beneficial.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #35
            Example, if you go to Japan, they are a very homogenous society, and you cannot be "Japanese". It has a fixed ethnic connotation. But people who adopt a culture ( culture bearing ) are automatically imbued with the label of "English" or "Armenian".

            Whats funny is that one of the most remarkable features of our interesting times is the degree to which we ourselves help dig our own racial and civilizational grave.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #36
              okie ill leave well enoug alone... but one last word- if mixing is a god thing, then why do we have culture in the firls place? why werent we all just a sloppy mixture of every other culture? yes it is good to get along and make friends with other cultures and people of different backgrounds, but i dont think its something you want to bring into the family, and the culture itself-- just my opinion--

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Anonymouse
                If you think things are that elastic, you do not need to be bothered with. Mixed race societies are all shytholes, precisely because they lack that homogeneity and culture creating power. Culture is a product of distinct peoples, not mixtures of races. If all Armenians started mixing with blacks, there would be a changing face of Armenian civilization, where the originals were replaced by a new mix. Honestly, if you want to justify interracial relationships, just say you prefer them, but don't go to silly reasons of why they are beneficial.
                First of all you refer to these "mixed race societies" and say how shytty they are when there are no real examples of a society deteriorating because of interracial marriage.

                And, excuse me, but I never said they were beneficial. I merely made the point that they are not as bad as you make them out to be. I never said I wanted Armenians to mix with everybody. You did not understand a damn thing I wrote.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Anonymouse
                  Example, if you go to Japan, they are a very homogenous society, and you cannot be "Japanese". It has a fixed ethnic connotation. But people who adopt a culture ( culture bearing ) are automatically imbued with the label of "English" or "Armenian".
                  Labels are imposed by those who are not tolerant of the mix. They are not imposed by the ones who are mixed. You are attributing the deterioration of a culture to something that is imposed by the culture itself. "But people who adopt a culture ( culture bearing ) are automatically imbued with the label of 'English' or 'Armenian.'"

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                  • #39
                    _ Just because both youre parents are armenian doesnt make you automatically armenian, you have to be raaised into knowing youre culture and get to be proud by youre identity. marrying someone who is "armenian"by name doesnt solve any perservational problems in the long run for armenians...

                    it starts with armenian unity..
                    Last edited by Tres Bien; 06-28-2004, 02:08 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by dusken
                      First of all you refer to these "mixed race societies" and say how shytty they are when there are no real examples of a society deteriorating because of interracial marriage.
                      On the contrary there are many examples of many societies that were multiracial and cultural, which allowed for mixing, that eventually changed and fell because the people who created that culture were altered. Stop appealing to your own ignorance of what things 'ought' to be.
                      Achkerov kute.

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