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  • Originally posted by nunechka

    a girl who is "traditional" is rather a combersome individual; she needs you to comfort her, she needs you to be the provider, she needs you to fight her fights, and pay for her, and take over everything...she will not drive you anywhere, because most likely she will feel that the right thing to do is to let the man do what a man has to do... the man is the protector, the provider, the guardian... essentially, you've got a lot to do to take care of her... you better have a lot money & time and you better give her correct driving directions, tell her what to wear, and get what you need out of her without actually getting her opinion... man you've got a lot of work ahead of you...

    so who do you want?
    Any smart guy would want neither of those two.

    Wow. If this is what you see as the gender roles in a relationship, you need to wake up because this isnt Armenia. If we have to do all that then what do we need traditional girls for? Sex and babies? If that's all us guys wanted we sure as hell wouldnt need to go through all that trouble because there are a ton of girls out there that are willing to pull their own weight and are less demanding.

    "Take over everything?" You want him to shave your legs while he's at it too? How about a mutual relationship and companionship where both parties carry their own weight? Both provide, both comfort, both compromise, both understand. You ever hear of that concept?

    "you better have a lot of money & time...." "...Tell her what to wear." With this mentality in mind you're going to find yourself married to some overprotective, insecure, abusive guy who tells you when to sit, when to stand, and how high to jump. You're basically stating that as a female you should shut your mouth and look pretty...oh and while you're at it, put on your apron and get in the kitchen.

    Your defenition of a traditional girl is flawed beyond comparison.

    I'm surprised Anony hasnt written you an essay on this post.
    Last edited by GSTracer05; 11-10-2004, 08:10 PM.

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    • enough rules, now go out and date!

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      • When are you picking me up? Oh darn wait...girls are not supposed to pick up guys huh...shucks!

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        • Originally posted by GSTracer05
          Any smart guy would want neither of those two.

          Wow. If this is what you see as the gender roles in your relationship, I feel sorry for you. You need to wake up because this isnt Armenia. If we have to do all that then what do we need you for? Sex and babies? If that's all us guys wanted we sure as hell wouldnt need to go through all that trouble because there are a ton of girls out there that are willing to pull their own weight and are less demanding.

          "Take over everything?" You want him to shave your legs while he's at it too? How about a mutual relationship and companionship where both parties carry their own weight? Both provide, both comfort, both compromise, both understand. You ever hear of that concept?

          "you better have a lot of money & time...." "...Tell her what to wear." With this mentality in mind you're going to find yourself married to some overprotective, insecure, abusive guy who tells you when to sit, when to stand, and how high to jump. You're basically stating that as a female you should shut your mouth and look pretty...oh and while you're at it, put on your apron and get in the kitchen.

          I'm surprised Anony hasnt written you an essay on this post.

          Though her writing is unclear, I don't think she was favoring type one, nor type two.

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          • She's not, but the way she sees both types is completely flawed. She is looking at the extremes of each side and asking one to choose. A bit naive.

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            • well i know was being sarcatic the whole time, but it was a good way to make people think about the subject...
              GST i am a person that would only want to share all things, all the burdens and all the happiness along with it... the reason why i wrote that was because anony said "never date a feminist"... meaning that i was wrong in something that said...

              I will come and pick you up... I will not need directions, i have been driving nice i was 16 in LA, and i have a nice cute brand new jetta that most people really enjoy driving with me...

              Anony, the only time that i mentioned paying for something was when i said, don't expect to be paid for and to pay for the other... but maybe we do have differing views on what is a feminist, i see the upside, and you see the down side, and thats why i said that "if you know what type of personality you DONT like, then avoid those people" so if you dont like a feminist because she may out think you, so be it... but if you think that a feminist may out think you and she may have read more books and have more degrees then you and you are okay with that, because all the other up sides are more then (what you think are the down sides) then so be it...

              you said that all the women provided "subjective" rules. well, isnt saying "golden rule: dont ever date a feminist" a subjective rule? isnt saying "dont ever date a woman who has been raped" a subjective rule? both of those sound like they are subjective, because that means you prefer not to deal with emotional things, and you prefer not to deal with a smart woman...

              but i think the women on this forum are superb, they are sweet, smart, nice, and very forgiving... they have offered they points of views, stopped fights, and have been the binding reasons of this forum, for example Gohar, she is a true peace keeper... she is a facilitator, she has stopped fights and mended pissed off forumers... then we have hyebruin, she tries to keep the subject on the subject... we tend to get off the subject... then debutant, she seems to be one of the most objective and logical people… and then there is violette 829 she was the one that posted ” I think it's just as important for a guy to be well groomed, as a girl.” And I concurred that statement in my post…

              being a woman I am sensitive to what men talk about, if I cant figure out your gender by your posts, like for a while I did not know that debutant was a woman, that is a clear sign that this individual is truly objective… like a great man once said and then kerry quoted him in his debate “the type of judge that is ideal is the kind that when you read their report (or statement I cant remember) you cannot tell if that person is a man or a woman, a black, white, jews, or anything else, but that they are a great supreme court judge”

              i know my name totally gave it away, but my professors have told me that sometimes if they didn’t know that I was a girl, a minority, in the business field, that they would never be able to guess it…

              GST just let me know…

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              • Originally posted by Tres Bien
                Girls, if you found out that your date has been with a lot more than 100 girls would he still stand a chance with you?...you like him and all that...but still, say he is 30 years old)

                You mean if I found out my date is a SEX ADDICT with the possibility of having HIV and hepatitis? SURE, that's everything I'm looking for in a man...

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                • <Confused look> HUH... (I even read that post twice!).
                  No offense Nunechka, I'm sure you are a bright girl but you're so all over the place in your posts, I cant even make sense of it. So I have no real reply.
                  Last edited by GSTracer05; 11-10-2004, 10:44 PM.

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                  • She said she will pick you up if you like..... in her "cute brand new jetta." And she wanted you to know that she was a girl. The rest is easy to figure out, just break it down into pieces. Uffy puffy Mr. Racer!...hehehe..

                    And thank you nune..I dont think I ever really stopped fights..I just dont like when people fight. Especially people who are my friends and I care for very much.
                    You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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                    • i dont even have to say it... you just did it again... you made a confused person no so confused... you kept up with all the mumbo jumbo talk and you werent even directly involved in it... gst was involved and he couldnt figure out that i was answering his questions...

                      actually i am not really sure as to what exactly was confusing... but if he asks me i will try my best to answer...

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