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  • #41
    I agree that comparing how Armenians survived in the past (Iran, Syria, etc) is a piss poor example to argue that they can survive America. For starters, we're not as well spread out, here, inhabiting areas all over the country. We have an extremely small, handfull of concentrated pockets, and then the other 90% or so of the nation has never even HEARD of us, let alone posses Armenians in their area. Very, very, VERY rarely have I run into someone who knows what an Armenian is.

    Then you have the influences that Win described, which those other countries were exempt from. You're comparing middle eastern nations, which at least bare some similarities to us (by the way, if we didn't assimilate with them a little, how come we share character traits with them now ) to a country we share nothing in common with, a country run on a pop-culture, greedy capitalistic machine.

    To find proof that assimilation in 100% Armenian families is already a problem, you needn't look further then the hard core, proud Armenian parents that have raised kids within your "Little Armenia" community. Kids who shout about how Armenia is #1.....in a black "accent", with pants falling off their a$$es, and tilted hats, etc......were these some traditional Armenian garments that I didn't read about?

    Face it, this is an entirely new challenge that we, or any other culture, haven't faced prior to coming here. Unless every generation of your family for eternity plans on spending their lives in California, the kids are going to feel like outcasts. Because, and again, I have to emphasize this since most Cali Armos can't grasp the concept, if you go almost anywhere outside of south Cali, the chances of you running into another Armenian are about as likely as Bill Gates filing for bankruptcy. So....what you're saying is not only do we have to be prisoners of our nationality, but we have to be prisoners of South Cali, too???

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    • #42
      Originally posted by winoman
      sad eyes - I feel sorry for you...for having such a wimp of a b/f...I mean he has one life to live - you cannot live it for others (even if one is an Armenian) - even and especially not for your family - let them live their own lives... (and believe me - I too have made this mistake before in my youth - at least in part - and learned to regret it). If your love is true...then I hope ehe comes to this realization sooner rather then later...good luck.

      I agree with winoman.

      ...if he's willing to marry the other chic, just ("cuz his mom wanted him to"), and forget about the "2 year relationship" you guys have/had, then... he must not give a xxxx

      ..or at least not as much as you think.

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      • #43
        By using Iran, Lebanon, etc. as an example, I was trying to show you assimilation hasn‘t been an Issue for Armenians living in Muslim countries for ages. Even here in California, when I look around me, there are Armenian communities everywhere, Armenian churches, Armenian schools, etc. Same with any other Armenian populated city. I don’t consider a guy who wears baggy pants but thinks of himself as Armenian a problem as far as assimilation goes. If we were the type to assimilate, we wouldn’t have made it this far, we would’ve perished right after the genocide when every Armenian was living in some foreign country. Look at us now, we’re still here. I don’t know, I guess I don’t see dressing like skaters or blacks a huge issue (it's only a phase poor things go through) nor do I see the American culture a problem. You can be American-Armenian, I think that’s what we all are, but that Armenian part will always be there. I know outside of Cali not many people have heard of us, but that's because our country isn't widely known, nothing to do with assimilation.

        And Crimson, Cali is not for me, I plan on moving to Tennessee and marrying a cowboy, but I'll make sure they all know who Armenians are. Eehaw
        Last edited by CatWoman; 02-25-2005, 12:03 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by spiral
          I agree with winoman.

          ...if he's willing to marry the other chic, just ("cuz his mom wanted him to"), and forget about the "2 year relationship" you guys have/had, then... he must not give a xxxx

          ..or at least not as much as you think.
          that's how i feel about it too! sad_eyes, you need someone who will FULLY accept you for who you are; how can there be love without full acceptance of EVERYHTING that person is! i understand you guys are in love and care for one another but 'happily ever after' is more about being sensible than being romantic or crazzzzzy in love and totalllly passionate.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Mags
            Does your girlfriend do crack?
            I broke up with my pain in the ass girlfriend and then I went out with this other pain in the ass armo chik for a while. Both were unintelligent, boring, drama queens.
            Last edited by patlajan; 02-25-2005, 04:42 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Crimson Glow
              I wasn't referring to you, sad. In America, the amount of white, mainstream citizens that know anything about their backgrounds are few and far between. Now, perhaps with most of the members here being from south Cali, it is hard to understand this. There are plenty of minorities, and it is multifaceted in cultures. But when you start moving further and further away from major cities (LA, Chicago, NY, etc), the ambiance of the towns shift quickly away from a mix of flavors, to white yuppies, honkys, or rednecks. They may say they're German, Irish, Polish, etc, but it basically means nothing. They don't know the language, the culture, the customs, traditions, holidays, they know NOTHING. They ARE nothing! Basically empty vessels absorbing whatever trendy pop culture has to sell them this month. So when someone comes along that does have an ethnicity and is vehement about it, they're thrilled to fill their empty selves up with the richness of that person.

              By the way.....do Canadian Armenians add an "eh" at the end of their sentences? "Inch bes es, eh?"

              I guess I can understand your point of view. But I have noticed a tremendouse difference in armenians that live in say, the USA for example, than the ones that are direct from "hayastan." Each ones adapt to their culture. So although some people here are say german for example, yes they are not quite traditional but I believe that it is due to 2 reasons. One- they are "influenced" by the american/canadian culture and two- theyre parents have not raised them traditionally. Either way, you cant take away the blood that is in your vains. You cant erase who you are. If you are of german blood, then you ARE german. You just may not be into your culture as some others may be.

              I dont know any armenian canadians so therefore I wouldnt know if they say "eh" at the end of thier scentances. The armenians here are direct from Armenia, most of them are from Nor hajin and others are from Yerevan. They are all here on working visas, and will eventually return to armenia within the next couple of years.

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              • #47
                why would some1 not want to date some1 thats not armenian? well my dad is extremly trict and dosnt let me so oh well! lol he always says "u need a good armenian women im your life u know that yosef?" so i guess i will never know...

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                • #48
                  Why not? All you need is to buy is a nice Mercedez Benz or a BMW or some kind of an expensive fancy car, and drive it to L.A. Come to Glendale and you'll find alot of Armenian girls. Listen to your dad! lol

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by EYYBABA23
                    Why not? All you need is to buy is a nice Mercedez Benz or a BMW or some kind of an expensive fancy car, and drive it to L.A. Come to Glendale and you'll find alot of Armenian girls. Listen to your dad! lol
                    I don't think that after Michigan Armenians he will find a typical Glendale girl (the kind that looks at a guy's car) very "attractive" lol Sorry

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by EYYBABA23
                      Why not? All you need is to buy is a nice Mercedez Benz or a BMW or some kind of an expensive fancy car, and drive it to L.A. Come to Glendale and you'll find alot of Armenian girls. Listen to your dad! lol

                      Well my fellow forumer, the seeming actuality of it all is that you blame no one wanting to go out with you(no Armenian…that is) on the lack of owning a BMW or Mercedes.

                      Rest assured that there are a number of other reasons which may contribute to your dating woes.


                      A- You may be quite unattractive.
                      B- You may not have much of a brain.
                      C- Charisma is not so high up on the latter.
                      D- ALL of the above.

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