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  • Gunner14
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    Originally posted by exfo View Post
    Ok lets summarize. First some Usame attack WTC. Then you look for him to arrest but couldn't find. Then you decided to attack to Iraq because you need oil. But how? First you need to find an excuse to attack to another country. Then suddenly you created a link between Usame and Saddam. (No problem there was no relation between them, both were Arab anyway.) Then also you suddenly discovered that Iraq were producing mass destruction weapons. (No problem that they were not producing mass production weapons they were Muslim anyway) Then you try to create a coalition in the world to judify your invasion. (No problem that the rest of the world did not allowed you to attack Iraq, you were Americans anyway) Then you attacked Iraq suddenly. You bombed the cities of Iraq. You killed thousands of innocent men, women and children. (No problem, they were not human anyway) After you bombed all country from the air, you invaded Iraq with your soldiers. You continue to kill, torture and rape thousands without a reason. (Oh sorry, they attacked soldiers! They must be crazy, how dare they can defend their country? Since you were bringing democracy and your peace heaven to Iraq. They were stupid anyway.) Then you could not find any mass destruction weapons but you find something else, what, oil!!! (You were lucky anyway) Then you f.cked the whole country and create a civil war. You were liberating Shias from Sunnies, but now everybody hate you and they want you to leave Iraq. But you still do not. You create a puppet regime to protect your oil reserves and keep to ship oil to USA. Everyday around 50 new people is dying at Iraq to make you drive your car with gasoline. When you go to work tomorrow morning by your car just remember this for a while. (Oh sorry, you were Armenian or American or some sort of western, you are more valuable anyway)

    Your hatred is what is wrong with humanity.....

    You don't drive a car?
    You don't lobby the USA congress?
    You don't sit next to USA during UN conference?

    I would support a war for oil before I support a war to please "Alla Halla" just to get 12 virgins.....

    You're sooooooo ignorant you have no clue.... all the technology used to drill the oil in the middle east ... where do you think that came from???? where????????????????

    It was developed by the western world you so much hate...

    Over half of the turkish millitary weapons is produced by USA....

    You want to talk about the wholly muslims....lets talk......

    why when there are hundreds of other religions in the world... islam is the only one terrorizing the western world???


    You want to talk about innocent people dying... how about when Saddam killed his own people (muslims, though they were shiite) ......in thousands??? y don't you talk about that you're soooo pathetic I feel stupid for even responding to you......

    Before I thought you were intelligent person, but your true colors show.......


    I don't care about Islam, and I dont care about Iraq.... I wish we never invaded Iraq.... .. we don't need the oil anyway in 20 years we will be completely self seficient.... cars??? we are making electric cars dont worry.... energy, we're going solar...... everything else we need oil for we have..... All the money we spent on stupid Iraq...we should of used in America.....

    50 new people dying each day?? its cus they're blowing themselves up..... Stop it!!!!


    We should go back to the good old days.... of isolationism... letting the premitive countries decay.... while a few "shaws" live like kings when they themselves don't even believe in allah.....

    I'll say it right now, go ahead and call me a racist.... Most Muslim countries are primitive and barbaric...

    Hurts me to say it... but Turkey is the only one who has made progress, and its thanks to the one you call Attaturk.....

    I want you to sit there and think of all the great scientists, mathematicians, and economist.... islam has given to our world.... make a long list..... a good one......

    I still have respect for Gizy, though i dont agree with her mentality.... i feel she/he is rational. you .... you're nothing to me now... just another Turk..... way to go "friend"


    PS. God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, the courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to always tell them apart...

    Play footbol, watch Henry, listen to Coldplay, hug my mom, teach my brother about life, work hard to get promotion, read the paper,movie night with my friends, read vonnegut, eat french, dress italian, drive german, be armenian....

    ahhhh, feel much better getting that off my chest... now i can sleep
    Last edited by Gunner14; 05-03-2007, 11:47 PM.

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  • exfo
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    Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

    Originally posted by Gunner14 View Post
    I don't think its fair to say we kill innocent people in the context your saying it..... our purpose was not to kill innocent people they attacked the soldiers and some got killed... if you take a census of how many iraqi women were killed out of all those who died, its like less than 1 percent... think about that one.... u make it seem like we were attacking innocent citizens who were minding there business... what do you take us for? Turks?
    Ok lets summarize. First Usame attack WTC. Then you look for him to arrest but couldn't find. Then you decided to attack to Iraq because you need oil. But how? First you need to find an excuse to attack to another country. Then suddenly you created a link between Usame and Saddam. (No problem there was no relation between them, both were Arab anyway.) Then also you suddenly discovered that Iraq were producing mass destruction weapons. (No problem that they were not producing mass production weapons they were Muslim anyway) Then you try to create a coalition in the world to judify your invasion. (No problem that the rest of the world did not allowed you to attack Iraq, you were Americans anyway) Then you attacked Iraq suddenly. You bombed the cities of Iraq. You killed thousands of innocent men, women and children. (No problem, they were not human anyway) After you bombed all country from the air, you invaded Iraq with your soldiers. You continue to kill, torture and rape thousands without a reason. (Oh sorry, they attacked soldiers! They must be crazy, how dare they can defend their country? Since you were bringing democracy and your peace heaven to Iraq. They were stupid anyway.) Then you could not find any mass destruction weapons but you find something else, what, oil!!! (You were lucky anyway) Then you f.cked the whole country and create a civil war. You were liberating Shias from Sunnies, but now everybody hate you and they want you to leave Iraq. But you still do not. You create a puppet regime to protect your oil reserves and keep to ship oil to USA. Everyday around 50 new people is dying at Iraq to make you drive your car with gasoline. When you go to work tomorrow morning by your car just remember this for a while. (Oh sorry, you were Armenian or American or some sort of western, you are more valuable anyway)
    Last edited by exfo; 05-03-2007, 11:23 PM.

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  • exfo
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    Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

    Originally posted by Gunner14 View Post
    enter the judicial system....

    It's not perfect, but it's the best in the world.....period!

    The best in the world!!! In the future I'm going to start a campaign for the republic of ARmenia to mimic the USA constitution.
    So you can build another camp like Guantanamo in Armenia to introduce Armenians that "judicial system" which is the best in the world.

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  • gizzy
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    yeah, I am aware that they most probably try to kill less as necessary...but still it doesnt justify that they have the rights to be in those people's country...those people never seen "light" in their lives...neither with saddam nor the american army...I think they should let them be...what would america loose if they withdraw their army from those peoples land?...They would regain their lost respect if they helped those people....

    Originally posted by Gunner14 View Post
    I guess the Armericans I've come across in my life have given me a good impression of Americans.....

    I mean this country gives opportunity to all its citizens.... my family came here with nothing... with like 300 dollars... now we live a comfortable life we even support other families.... and there are many families like us..... and I am very greatful .... and want to give back....
    now I undertand...I feel sorry for what happened in the past...Seems like your family has gone through a lot...I get angry when I imagine what it would have felt like...In the name of justice, Turkey must somehow compensate people who have gone through the same things as your family did...But I guess its like a dream to even imagine them saying sorry to you when they are not even fair to their own citizens...sad really...Am happy that you guys finally found some place with peace...You got your education and now u got a job... now I wonder which one you love more...Armenia or America?

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  • Gunner14
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    Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

    Originally posted by gizzy View Post
    being oppose to war is just not enough I guess...One should be active to have his voice to be heard...I dont think people were really really against it...If my country was killing innocent I would have gone and thrown rocks to our president... I dont think many people fancy America except Americans...too many haters and this is not good for their future...Many will want to stap from the back and they should start improving their reputation to prevent this. A good start would be getting rid of Bush...

    so were you brought up in America ? What is your occupation?? Did your family migrated to america to escape from turks???


    yeah nice essay, well-done...I liked the end bit the most...


    I don't think its fair to say we kill innocent people in the context your saying it..... our purpose was not to kill innocent people they attacked the soldiers and some got killed... if you take a census of how many iraqi women were killed out of all those who died, its like less than 1 percent... think about that one.... u make it seem like we were attacking innocent citizens who were minding there business... what do you take us for? Turks?



    I am an accountant working for one of the "Big 4" accounting firms.... I moved to the states when i was 9 years old... from Yerevan, Armenia. My moms side was from Armenia.... like here grandparents were involved in Stepanakert....( look it up) ... My dad's side escaped turkey during the genocide to Syria.... eventually we all met in Armenia.... my dad hated the soviet regime and the first change he got...he brought us to U S A ..U S A ... U S A..sorry got carried away, love my country.

    All I know is there are good and bad people in all races....... I have always said this... I would take a "good" turk over a "bad" armenian any day..... but the hard part is finding a "good" turk.....

    I guess the Armericans I've come across in my life have given me a good impression of Americans.....

    I mean this country gives opportunity to all its citizens.... my family came here with nothing... with like 300 dollars... now we live a comfortable life we even support other families.... and there are many families like us..... and I am very greatful .... and want to give back....

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  • gizzy
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    Originally posted by Gunner14 View Post
    I'm not happy about Florida...as I voted for Gore in my state..... but again the system is not perfect..... especially when it's that close..... politics had a lot to do with it.....


    If Ralph nadar didnt run....that year....Florida wouldnt even have mattered .... It's politics.....


    Americans didnt boycott the war??? Are you crazy??? Aside from half of congress oposing it...... half of our population was against it... its very complex im not going to summarize the US Civics in a few paragraphs for you...but after i graduated from college.... I realized we have the best system.......
    being oppose to war is just not enough I guess...One should be active to have his voice to be heard...I dont think people were really really against it...If my country was killing innocent I would have gone and thrown rocks to our president... I dont think many people fancy America except Americans...too many haters and this is not good for their future...Many will want to stap from the back and they should start improving their reputation to prevent this. A good start would be getting rid of Bush...

    so were you brought up in America ? What is your occupation?? Did your family migrated to america to escape from turks???

    I care (I'm sure you'll agree if you read my essay in the General Discussion), but I'm too young to do anything drastic.
    yeah nice essay, well-done...I liked the end bit the most...

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  • sev_zeytun
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    Originally posted by Gunner14 View Post
    The first amendment has provisions that suspend freedom of speech when there is clear and present danger.....


    enter the judicial system....


    It's not perfect, but it's the best in the world.....period!


    The best in the world!!! In the future I'm going to start a campaign for the republic of ARmenia to mimic the USA constitution.
    When is the last time you read the constitution? The first amendment does not 'suspend' anything. It protects people's rights. The first ten amendments were implemented to protect the citizens and the local and state governments from being totally run by the federal government.

    You can look here if you want (this should be a trustworthy source): http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitut....overview.html
    Last edited by sev_zeytun; 05-03-2007, 08:09 PM.

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  • Gunner14
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    Originally posted by gizzy View Post
    hmmm...what about Bush and the Florida scandal... do you consider the elections as being fair?

    Americans have freedom of speech but did they protest the Iraq war? Who gave the right to Bush to invade Iraq just like that...I dont think Americans in general know much about the rest of the world...thats why even though they have freedom of speech they can only complain about their own country maybe but they remain ignorant towards the rest of the world... I think an egg on Bush's had was well deserved...


    I'm not happy about Florida...as I voted for Gore in my state..... but again the system is not perfect..... especially when it's that close..... politics had a lot to do with it.....


    If Ralph nadar didnt run....that year....Florida wouldnt even have mattered .... It's politics.....


    Americans didnt boycott the war??? Are you crazy??? Aside from half of congress oposing it...... half of our population was against it... its very complex im not going to summarize the US Civics in a few paragraphs for you...but after i graduated from college.... I realized we have the best system.......

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  • Gunner14
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    Originally posted by sev_zeytun View Post
    You really think that America has total free speech. I think that you are mistaken. Just look at Eugene V. Debs during the WWI era. He was a socialist and was arrested because of the Espionage Act of 1917 for praising anti-war sentiments (he was sent to jail for 10 years and lost his citizenship). Look at the Japanese citizens who tried to stand up for themselves during the WWII era when they were sent into concentration camps (Ex.= Korematsu vs. United States). Look at the middle eastern people who were held indefinitly in jail without trial (recently and even currently). Kind of sad, isn't it.
    The first amendment has provisions that suspend freedom of speech when there is clear and present danger.....


    enter the judicial system....


    It's not perfect, but it's the best in the world.....period!


    The best in the world!!! In the future I'm going to start a campaign for the republic of ARmenia to mimic the USA constitution.

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  • Էլիա
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    Originally posted by gizzy View Post
    hmmm...what about Bush and the Florida scandal... do you consider the elections as being fair?

    Americans have freedom of speech but did they protest the Iraq war? Who gave the right to Bush to invade Iraq just like that...I dont think Americans in general know much about the rest of the world...thats why even though they have freedom of speech they can only complain about their own country maybe but they remain ignorant towards the rest of the world... I think an egg on Bush's had was well deserved...
    I care (I'm sure you'll agree if you read my essay in the General Discussion), but I'm too young to do anything drastic.

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