Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Let me give you a very honest answer:

Why don't Turks accept genocide?

I have to go back to ASALA again to make you understand clear about what is happening from our side. There was not a "deny policy" of Turkey about 1915 until 1970s. There was no information such as Armenian geonicide on the history books, but people of 1960s were generally accepted that some horrible things happened to Armenians at WW1.
Then a terrorist group rise called ASALA and started to kill people to promote the Armenian genocide. People in Turkey shocked with this new issue and feel themselves as offended. Most of the casualties was by the ministery of foreign affairs of Turkey and an unprompted reaction appeared by the MFA such as denying 1915 as a crime. Suddenly government sided scholars and diplomats start to promote the actual policy of Turkey today. (Sorry for my English, I hope you can understand what I mean) Then the activities of Armenian lobbies rised. The allegation of these groups was so biased, full of hatred and racist against Turks that a similiar reaction arised from this side.
Maybe if we had a chance to discuss about these issues calmly side by side, today everything would be different. You created such an aggressive policy against Turkey that people here feel that they are threathened by Armenian diaspora to accept a crime that they did not committed. True or false, but this is the actual feeling of people here now. That is why I also accuse your side because of this "acceptance of genocide" problem. Please just try to have a neutral view even to your website. Besides daily lifes (sport, career, etc.) almost everything here is about how Turks are savages, murderers, how can we destroy Turkey, etc. And I don't know how can we find a solution. We could find a solution about the crimes at 1915 ,besides the term of genocide itself, with Armenia but your diaspora also threathened Armenia for not to establish relationships with Turkey without the "confess of genocide"
Turks want to discuss about your accusations but you say that: ok, we can discuss about the genocide later but first accept the genocide!

This is how the problem seen fom this side, not my personal views.

I say the same things Gunner14 said, but I still have more to say. How are we supposed to discuss with you Turks when your assasinating Armenians for only saying there was an Armenian Genocide. Wow, stating your opinion (and not even an opinion, a fact!) in public is such a deplorable crime! [/sarcasm] And as for ASALA, how many times do I have to say that ASALA was created because of the Genocide, and no other reason! And it killed the Young Turk pigs because they kept running away from confrontation for their crimes (genocide...), so the Armenians needed to get their revenge... as for the embassies, still revenge! This will not stop until your country stops being so scared and full of excuses and starts accepting the genocide!

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Let me give you a very honest answer:

Why don't Turks accept genocide?

I have to go back to ASALA again to make you understand clear about what is happening from our side. There was not a "deny policy" of Turkey about 1915 until 1970s. There was no information such as Armenian geonicide on the history books, but people of 1960s were generally accepted that some horrible things happened to Armenians at WW1.
Then a terrorist group rise called ASALA and started to kill people to promote the Armenian genocide. People in Turkey shocked with this new issue and feel themselves as offended. Most of the casualties was by the ministery of foreign affairs of Turkey and an unprompted reaction appeared by the MFA such as denying 1915 as a crime. Suddenly government sided scholars and diplomats start to promote the actual policy of Turkey today. (Sorry for my English, I hope you can understand what I mean) Then the activities of Armenian lobbies rised. The allegation of these groups was so biased, full of hatred and racist against Turks that a similiar reaction arised from this side.
Maybe if we had a chance to discuss about these issues calmly side by side, today everything would be different. You created such an aggressive policy against Turkey that people here feel that they are threathened by Armenian diaspora to accept a crime that they did not committed. True or false, but this is the actual feeling of people here now. That is why I also accuse your side because of this "acceptance of genocide" problem. Please just try to have a neutral view even to your website. Besides daily lifes (sport, career, etc.) almost everything here is about how Turks are savages, murderers, how can we destroy Turkey, etc. And I don't know how can we find a solution. We could find a solution about the crimes at 1915 ,besides the term of genocide itself, with Armenia but your diaspora also threathened Armenia for not to establish relationships with Turkey without the "confess of genocide"
Turks want to discuss about your accusations but you say that: ok, we can discuss about the genocide later but first accept the genocide!

This is how the problem seen fom this side, not my personal views.

Thank you for your response.... but now, you're beginning to make excuses...

And most deniers are just making excueses.

So you're saying if ASALA hadn't killed 15 turkish diplomats in the last 30 years.....

maybe Turks would recognize the Genocide?

Would open discussion to a reconciliation?

Would not hate Armenians?

I'm not calling you a criminal and I am not accusing you or any of your turkish friends of genocide.... but your ancestors.... they did a terrible thing..... you know it!!!!!!!!!

I'm done .. this is pointless.....

It's human nature.... if you do something good, your first thought is it's because of me and how great I am.... you do something bad (genocide), your first thought is it's because of everything else going on in the world besides me.

And now Turks are claiming ARmenians commited Genocide to them... incredible.....

EXFO, just answer one thing.... do you think Armenians were victims, but you don't think that it was genocide....

or do you think that Armenians were killing Turks and in retaliation, turks "defended" themselves and killed like 80% of Armenians?


if you think the first is true, then i welcome discussion with you, if you think the latter is true, i don't want to talk to you because you clearly are lacking the historic knowledge neccessary....

BTW, Your english is fine, and i applaud you annalitic skills, but the denying of the Armenian Genocide has many many layers on behalf of the turks (Pshchogical, political, social, and economic) so unless you are really willing to study this issue .... you're just another turk, with Attaturk tattood on his forhead... and thus... clearly lack objective reasoning...


Good day..

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Would you be against her in terms of the Armenian Genocide?

[Tanistlin]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I'm a 18 aged Turkish boy,and I cant see what's wrong with it...If I love her,I would date or maybe marry with an Armenian girl..It doesnt matter..

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

First of all, 92 years is not a long time history wise. Second, the Russians went to WAR. The Armenians did not participate in war as a nation but, somehow, 1.5 million people die. Why? In history books many atrocities are recognized and recorded so there is acceptance and closure. So if the Armenian Genocide is "just history" then why don't the Turks just accept it and move on?!? Give me a good, straight, and honest answer. All we want is closure, at least in my case anyway.

Let me give you a very honest answer:

Why don't Turks accept genocide?

I have to go back to ASALA again to make you understand clear about what is happening from our side. There was not a "deny policy" of Turkey about 1915 until 1970s. There was no information such as Armenian geonicide on the history books, but people of 1960s were generally accepted that some horrible things happened to Armenians at WW1.
Then a terrorist group rise called ASALA and started to kill people to promote the Armenian genocide. People in Turkey shocked with this new issue and feel themselves as offended. Most of the casualties was by the ministery of foreign affairs of Turkey and an unprompted reaction appeared by the MFA such as denying 1915 as a crime. Suddenly government sided scholars and diplomats start to promote the actual policy of Turkey today. (Sorry for my English, I hope you can understand what I mean) Then the activities of Armenian lobbies rised. The allegation of these groups was so biased, full of hatred and racist against Turks that a similiar reaction arised from this side.
Maybe if we had a chance to discuss about these issues calmly side by side, today everything would be different. You created such an aggressive policy against Turkey that people here feel that they are threathened by Armenian diaspora to accept a crime that they did not committed. True or false, but this is the actual feeling of people here now. That is why I also accuse your side because of this "acceptance of genocide" problem. Please just try to have a neutral view even to your website. Besides daily lifes (sport, career, etc.) almost everything here is about how Turks are savages, murderers, how can we destroy Turkey, etc. And I don't know how can we find a solution. We could find a solution about the crimes at 1915 ,besides the term of genocide itself, with Armenia but your diaspora also threathened Armenia for not to establish relationships with Turkey without the "confess of genocide"
Turks want to discuss about your accusations but you say that: ok, we can discuss about the genocide later but first accept the genocide!

This is how the problem seen fom this side, not my personal views.

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Այո: Իմ կարծիքով էտի շատ խընդանալիք բանմը չեր որովհետեւ միտկ չուներ:

Գիտեմ որ միտք չունէր (ես չ'շինեցի եթէ չէիր գիտեր): Բայց անոր անմիտութիւնը քեզի չի՞ խնդացնէր:

[sev_zeytun]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Դուն առի՞ր իմ նամակս, որ «Խնդալիք...» կոչուած էր:

Այո: Իմ կարծիքով էտի շատ խընդանալիք բանմը չեր որովհետեւ միտկ չուներ:

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Yes, exfo, if you really think that the genocide of Armenians is true (as you stated, whether it was an accident or not), then why do you guys keep denying it and coming up with endless excuses that all have different views than each other (which shows how much you are lying). Well, we're waiting?

sev_zeytun: Դուն առի՞ր իմ նամակս, որ «Խնդալիք...» կոչուած էր:

[sev_zeytun]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I really do not understand, I can not make emphaty, really. Why do you tell these things as if they happened yesterday? Why do you (Armenians generally) think that you are so special? Every nation suffered at history. Nearly 20 million Russian is dead at WW2. Why they don't make obsession like you? You just heared some horrible things from your families. You did not see these things. But you tell as if you saw them personally. Interestingly your father and mother did not see them, too. They also heared from their father and mother. Even that elder ones did not see them. They heared from their father and mother. We are talking about 92 years ago! This is history, not something you need to take that much personal. My ancestors also migrated from Caucasia after Russian invade anatolia. They also suffered, many people died from the family. Almost every Turk has also these stories. But we do not make hysteria like your people. Again; please understand: this is history! You dont need to grow your children with boosing Turkish hatred. Hello!!! Somebody there???

First of all, 92 years is not a long time history wise. Second, the Russians went to WAR. The Armenians did not participate in war as a nation but, somehow, 1.5 million people die. Why? In history books many atrocities are recognized and recorded so there is acceptance and closure. So if the Armenian Genocide is "just history" then why don't the Turks just accept it and move on?!? Give me a good, straight, and honest answer. All we want is closure, at least in my case anyway.

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I really do not understand, I can not make emphaty, really. Why do you tell these things as if they happened yesterday? Why do you (Armenians generally) think that you are so special? Every nation suffered at history. Nearly 20 million Russian is dead at WW2. Why they don't make obsession like you? You just heared some horrible things from your families. You did not see these things. But you tell as if you saw them personally. Interestingly your father and mother did not see them, too. They also heared from their father and mother. Even that elder ones did not see them. They heared from their father and mother. We are talking about 92 years ago! This is history, not something you need to take that much personal. My ancestors also migrated from Caucasia after Russian invade anatolia. They also suffered, many people died from the family. Almost every Turk has also these stories. But we do not make hysteria like your people. Again; please understand: this is history! You dont need to grow your children with boosing Turkish hatred. Hello!!! Somebody there???

Is the Germans' annihilation of the xxxs just history? Idiot, it is history, but it's a genocide in history. And when you say many people died from your family, were they purposely trying to be killed because of an attempt to kill all Turks!? I don't think so, but the Armenians were trying to be killed, not because of war, but because the Turks wanted to exterminate the Armenians for "complete Turkishness" and a clean, Turkish Empire. (how grusome) xP