Consequences of Anti-Vax misinformation

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Consequences of Anti-Vax misinformation

Worse... the dilutions they use are such that there's not even a molecule of anything BUT water left.

Thoughthere are ways that the body reacts to disease or damage that mainstream medicine doesn't explain. Like the way some diseases or injuries or harmful substances can cure us of other apparently unconnected ailments.

I remember about 15 years ago I was travelling in Georgia (the Georgia north of Armenia)and I bought a cheap tube of toothpaste made in India - I think there might have been too high a concentration of flouride in it and within a few hours of using it I got a bad physical reaction to it, swelling of my gums and my skin swelling around my neck and all the way down my arms to my wrist. It was very alarming at the time, and it lasted for about 12 hours but there was a happy side effect. Since I was about aged 10 I had got a recurring itchy rash on the skin of each arm at the joint, it would appear every 3 or 4 months, then would fade away when treated, only to always come back again a few months later. And I had that itchy rash when I got the allergic reaction. But it vanished within a few days of the reaction and it has never again reappeared.

[Siggie]

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I'm pretty sure accredited institutions teach nutrition and evidence based science albeit at a more liberal level.

Institutions accredited to by whom for what? And what does "liberal level" mean exactly? Liberal level of what? Science?

[KanadaHye]

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I believe you are mistaken. At best, maaaaybe they give people nutritional supplements too?

I'm pretty sure accredited institutions teach nutrition and evidence based science albeit at a more liberal level.

[Siggie]

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Modern homeopathy consists of studying nutrition if I'm not mistaken.

I believe you are mistaken. At best, maaaaybe they give people nutritional supplements too?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Consequences of Anti-Vax misinformation

Modern homeopathy consists of studying nutrition if I'm not mistaken.

[Siggie]

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Christina had mentioned she got it from a homeopathic practitioner, so I was assuming it was a homeopathic remedy - homeopathic medicines are not concoctions of vitamins, they are very very very small amounts of some substance that supposedly cures something, delivered inside a neutral substance of much greater volume, usually water or an oil.

Worse... the dilutions they use are such that there's not even a molecule of anything BUT water left.

[KanadaHye]

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I'm afraid the belief that stress and your diet causing peptic ulcers has not disappeared. My father had a peptic ulcer a few years ago and while they said it was from bacteria and treated it with anti-biotics, they kept asking him if he was stressed and if he ate spicy foods and they jumped on him when he admitted that he loved eating spicy.

You can get ulcers from kissing the wrong kind of people. Can't use that as an argument though as it might be deemed as religious Spicy foods generally make symptons of ulcers worse but they aren't the cause.

[Federate]

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The peptic ulcer example is far worse than just "mistakes". The idea that "stress" could cause an ulcer is like something you would find in a medieval mindset. There is not even a medical definition of "stress", yet it was being given as the cause for a widespread medical condition as late as the 1990s (and some vested-interest doctors are still trying to squeeze it in as a possible cause so they can make money from treating the "stress"). In its reasoning, it is the equivalent of a doctor, a 21st century doctor, saying to you you shouldn't be a moderator here because, being a woman, you will get over stimulated and fall ill from an attack of the vapors!

I'm afraid the belief that stress and your diet causing peptic ulcers has not disappeared. My father had a peptic ulcer a few years ago and while they said it was from bacteria and treated it with anti-biotics, they kept asking him if he was stressed and if he ate spicy foods and they jumped on him when he admitted that he loved eating spicy.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Consequences of Anti-Vax misinformation

It was probably a concoction of vitamins that are necessary for proper function of the immune system. Malnutrition is a cause of people getting seriously ill over the common cold or a flu. Considering the average modern diet consists of McDonalds, there is no wonder so many people have deficient immune systems.

Christina had mentioned she got it from a homeopathic practitioner, so I was assuming it was a homeopathic remedy - homeopathic medicines are not concoctions of vitamins, they are very very very small amounts of some substance that supposedly cures something, delivered inside a neutral substance of much greater volume, usually water or an oil.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Consequences of Anti-Vax misinformation

We're still trying to understand how the body works; of course there will be mistakes.

The peptic ulcer example is far worse than just "mistakes". The idea that "stress" could cause an ulcer is like something you would find in a medieval mindset. There is not even a medical definition of "stress", yet it was being given as the cause for a widespread medical condition as late as the 1990s (and some vested-interest doctors are still trying to squeeze it in as a possible cause so they can make money from treating the "stress"). In its reasoning, it is the equivalent of a doctor, a 21st century doctor, saying to you you shouldn't be a moderator here because, being a woman, you will get over stimulated and fall ill from an attack of the vapors!