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  • #11
    Re: Sochi

    I don't think a video entitled "Sochi's indigenous on the sidelines" is off-topic.

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    • #12
      Re: Sochi

      This thread is about the Olympics not about genocide. Notice it is under the sports section and not the genocide section. I was hoping to see the opening ceremonies but they were not televised live in USA. Does anyone know what channel will televise it tonight?
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • #13
        Re: Sochi

        Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
        This thread is about the Olympics not about genocide. Notice it is under the sports section and not the genocide section. I was hoping to see the opening ceremonies but they were not televised live in USA. Does anyone know what channel will televise it tonight?
        Lame copout.

        Your choice for the thread title was "Sochi," which means that what I've posted is within the scope of the title and, I would argue, of the subforum.

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        • #14
          Re: Sochi

          Yeh ok Tom since this is a Armenian forum therefor all forums are genocide forums by default since there is nothing else to being Armenian
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • #15
            Re: Sochi

            Well it appears the whole world aired the opening ceremonies live except the USA I guess they were too busy destabilizing Ukraine. Hope to catch on delay tonight.
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • #16
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              Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
              Yeh ok Tom since this is a Armenian forum therefor all forums are genocide forums by default since there is nothing else to being Armenian
              Well, this forum actually assimilated another one that was dedicated exclusively to Armenian Genocide discussion (used to be armeniangenocide.com) so...

              You enjoy talking about East-West tensions, American neo-fascism, and Western bias so much (I mean, you did it in your first post in this thread and in the post prior to this one), so one might say this thread was politicized from the get-go.

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              • #17
                Re: Sochi

                Every single member of the Armenian delegation to the Sochi Olympics is either born in Armenian or ethnic Armenian. The Armenian roster includes: Sergey Mikayelyan (birthplace: Russia), Arman Serebrakian (birthplace: USA), Katya Galstyan (birthplace: Armenia), and Artur Yeghoyan (birthplace: Armenia). On the other hand, it is fascinating and noteworthy that not even a single athlete of the Azerbaijan's Olympic delegation is born in Azerbaijan or is of Azeri ethnic origin. Below is a detailed list:

                Gaia Bassani Antivari (born July 8, 1978 in Italy) [Italian] is an alpine skier who competed for Azerbaijan at the 2010 Winter Olympics. She previously competed for the Caribbean nation of Grenada, and attempted to compete for them at the 2002 Winter Olympics. However she couldn't as the GOA did not submit paperwork.

                Patrick Brachner (born January 7, 1992 in Austria) [Austrian] is an alpine skier who now represents Azerbaijan. He will compete for Azerbaijan at the 2014 Winter Olympics in the slalom and giant slalom. Brachner was also selected to carry the Azerbaijani flag during the opening ceremony.

                Alexei Alexandrovich Sitnikov (born May 23, 1986 in Russia) [Russian] is an ice dancer. Competing for Azerbaijan with Julia Zlobina (born June 28, 1989 in Russia) [Russian]. They have placed as high as sixth at the European Championships and have qualified for the 2014 Winter Olympics.
                -Unified Young Armenians

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                • #18
                  Re: Sochi

                  Originally posted by TomServo View Post
                  Russian-Armenian political scientist (and Putinist) Andranik Migranyan denying the genocide of the Circassians on Al-Jazeera's The Stream.

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                  Starts at about 6:30.

                  Around the 30 minute mark, he invokes the Armenian Genocide to deny the Circassian one and I had to stop watching.
                  Yes, pretty vile stuff. What a xxxxroach Migranyan must be. Though he doesn't really evoke the Armenian Genocide to deny the Circassian one, he was talking about it in the context of the post WW2 Armenian migration to Armenia (which is way too obscure an event for any viewer to know about) and so mentions the AG in that context.

                  However, for a lot of his responses he could be a Turk talking about Armenians and denying the Armenian genocide. Word-for-word, excuse-for-excuse, lie-for-lie, racist abuse for racist abuse - astonishingly identical.

                  Of course, tell a Circassian about how they murdered tens of thousands of Armenians during the Armenian genocide (and their fanatics in Syria were the worst of the lot, being used by the Turks as substitutes for Kurds and "out-Kurded" the Kurds in their bloodthirsty viciousness) and we will get them denying that piece of their history in exactly the same way as Migranyan is doing for Russian history. Either that, or they will backtrack on their position of their being one simgle Circasian nation and become anxious to mention that there are lots of different ethnic groups and that the ones who did it were just from a few select ethnic groups.
                  Last edited by bell-the-cat; 02-07-2014, 07:25 PM.
                  Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  • #19
                    Re: Sochi

                    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                    Well keep in mind that unlike some other countries-Azerbaidjan and Russia are full of cash thus they can indeed afford extravagant spending to glorify themselves.
                    But the counterargument to that would be that unlike Western countries, countries like Russia and Azerbaijan are a lot less developed, and have a lot of basic needs yet to be covered. Moreover, no matter the amount of cash at hand, such spending is only possible in places like China, Russia, and Azerbaijan were dissent is not very easy, and people are less inclined to speak out about perceived wrongdoings by their government.

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                    • #20
                      Re: Sochi

                      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                      Well it appears the whole world aired the opening ceremonies live except the USA I guess they were too busy destabilizing Ukraine. Hope to catch on delay tonight.
                      Ya, as a kid growing up in USA, we were taught that Russia used propaganda but we Americans were honest, straight dealers.
                      Ronald Reagan once said " I think we ware the whiter hat"
                      Ya, in his movies.

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