Armenians And Breeding.

[Anonymouse]

It is clear to me that Armenians in general do not breed enough. Obviously some enlightened lefties like to believe that the earth is 'overpopulated' and for people to stop having babies. This regurgitated protoplasm is gargled with for so long that people continue believing this guff that we are 'overpopulated' because why treat the taste buds to new ideas when it's far more easier to gargle with the same generic crap.

The average Armenian married couple that I see has on average two children. Whether in Armenia or abroad the norm is from two children the most, followed by one after, but never more than two. Exceptions exist but for the most part Armenians do not like to breed. In Armenia, aside from emigration, economic hardship which has made it harder to breed, has had its effects no doubt. However, even before during Communism when there was still a deceptive aura of stability Armenians did not breed much. There seems to be a stigma with Armenians and having children. I believe Armenians help prove the point of 'quality' over 'quantity'.

For the most part the trend I've seen personally is that Armenian married couples won't bring more than an average of two children because their priority is first economic: will we be able to afford children? The second point is moral: will we be able to raise decent people? These two factors seem to be the bedrock of why Armenians don't breed, excluding the economic woes in Armenia. The Muslim neighbors to the east, and west of Armenia don't seem to have a problem with breeding in massive scales.

[thedebutante]

If I have kids, I'd have two at most. One to replace me, one to replace the person I marry. I want quality kids and I wanna be able to give them everything they want, including the intangible without having to worry about dividing it so much. haha

[gggpearl]

And i would like to have 7. I am sure that will have enough love and care for them and that is the most important thing.

[thedebutante]

Wow, that's a lot of babieeeeeeeeees.

[gggpearl]

yeah, and it is always good

[TigranJamharian]

Firstly I am all for Armenians breeding and bringing as many children into this world as possible. But if everyone was to act like a crazy muslim and churn out 8 kids the world wouldnt be a nice place.
I dont see how you can say that we are not overpopulated and are not on track to being in an even worse situation in general.
Like you said, the reason Armenians have so few children is the economic factor. Basically as a society becomes more educated the mentality changes from "let me have 10 so they can do 10 times as much work on the farm and support me 10 times as much later" to " let me have 1 or 2 and put all my resources into educating those 2, or 1".
Even if all Armenian women were to have 2 children apiece our population would still be going down and frankly i dont see what can be done to fix this problem until Armenia becomes a prosperous state and starts givng all sorts of monetary benefits for more children.

[thedebutante]

What about Armenians in the diaspora?

[Hayq]

I would not go over 5. 5 Children. However, iff you are going to have 5 kids and they are going to end up being bums, no reason, then we are third world trash. I say, have as many kids as you can afford to have, not only afford with money, but with care and education.

Armenians were never numerous, and frankly, smaller peoples tend to be more clean and intelligent because of their close knit lifestyles.

Lol I thought about punching in some numbers in the calculator ones...if there are 8mln Armenians in the world, 4mln of them being the necessary age of breeding, and if each couple has 5 kids that would be 10mln...if the 10mln does the same thing, that would be around 25mln (which is preety damn good for a time span of 50years)

lol another thing i thought of, is if each Armenian married a foreigner and managed to bring the foreigner onto our side...lol I later discarded the theory after seeing some Armenians on Armenian club....

[Anonymouse]

I would not go over 5. 5 Children. However, iff you are going to have 5 kids and they are going to end up being bums, no reason, then we are third world trash. I say, have as many kids as you can afford to have, not only afford with money, but with care and education.

Armenians were never numerous, and frankly, smaller peoples tend to be more clean and intelligent because of their close knit lifestyles.

Lol I thought about punching in some numbers in the calculator ones...if there are 8mln Armenians in the world, 4mln of them being the necessary age of breeding, and if each couple has 5 kids that would be 10mln...if the 10mln does the same thing, that would be around 25mln (which is preety damn good for a time span of 50years)

lol another thing i thought of, is if each Armenian married a foreigner and managed to bring the foreigner onto our side...lol I later discarded the theory after seeing some Armenians on Armenian club....

That is a great idea! Why don't you marry a black person from Compton and bring them here to "our side"? I am sure they would love to have the last name of Hakopian following "Ayisha".

[TigranJamharian]

That is a great idea! Why don't you marry a black person from Compton and bring them here to "our side"? I am sure they would love to have the last name of Hakopian following "Ayisha".

HAHAHAHAHA. ive got a huge smile chiseled into my face.

[pezeveng]

i know about 6 half black half armo kids. Last thing we need is making fun of a black guy who ends up speaking Armenian. I can see the fights already.

[nunechka]

i dont know any half black half armo people... but i know that armenians dont have kids as much as they should... but then again, i say that its the qualilty of the culture rather then the quantity.

anywho, i have a theory as to why they dont... sex is taboo!!!

hence the lack of development and population incease!!!

[Anonymouse]

i dont know any half black half armo people... but i know that armenians dont have kids as much as they should... but then again, i say that its the qualilty of the culture rather then the quantity.

anywho, i have a theory as to why they dont... sex is taboo!!!

hence the lack of development and population incease!!!

It's not that sex is taboo. Sex does not necessarily correlate with breeding. They could be having alot of sex but not breeding. Even then, alot of Armenians who grew up here, and some girls I've known personally are not short of being nymphomaniac's with their behavior so why aren't they having all these kids?

[Hayq]

I know a 100percent black who speaks Armenian, he is from Ethiopia, rather intelligent fellow.

[hyebruin]

It's not that sex is taboo. Sex does not necessarily correlate with breeding. They could be having alot of sex but not breeding. Even then, alot of Armenians who grew up here, and some girls I've known personally are not short of being nymphomaniac's with their behavior so why aren't they having all these kids?

it's funny how the focus always goes back to the female sexual behaviour; a woman in power is a b***h and a man in power is a 'go getter' and a 'leader' and a woman is a nymphomaniac while a man is a ladies' man...and for those inquiring minds the male counterpart of nymphomania is satyriasis, now there's a word not thrown around too much in today's society :rolleyes:

[Anonymouse]

it's funny how the focus always goes back to the female sexual behaviour; a woman in power is a b***h and a man in power is a 'go getter' and a 'leader' and a woman is a nymphomaniac while a man is a ladies' man...and for those inquiring minds the male counterpart of nymphomania is satyriasis, now there's a word not thrown around too much in today's society :rolleyes:

Did I say men who sleep around are angels? They are about as vile as the nymphos.

[thedebutante]

Now Now. I'm sure the Mouse fully appreciates female sexuality.

[spiral]

I agree with Tigran.

[ArmoBarbi]

Agreed that there arent enough Armenians on this planet.
Agreed that its about quality first and foremost.

I would only have two or three. I have no intention to boost the world Armenian population with my own body, despite of what my family believes lol. We each should just do our own part. (Not to mention all the Armenian orphans currently needing parents.)

The main thing for me is that my own children are healthy, happy, successful, and Armenian. :) No Ayishas, no Shamikas, etc. lol

[HyeJinx1984]

it's funny how the focus always goes back to the female sexual behaviour; a woman in power is a b***h and a man in power is a 'go getter' and a 'leader' and a woman is a nymphomaniac while a man is a ladies' man...and for those inquiring minds the male counterpart of nymphomania is satyriasis, now there's a word not thrown around too much in today's society :rolleyes:

Ugh oh, you're turning into old Bruin again... soon your posts are going to start ruining my day!! :p

[Thai-Samurai]

I'm not sure what the argument here is, but here's an intersting fact. Women literally control 100% of evolution. I think I've said this before, but women, especially human women, choose who they reproduce.

"The human female determines in culture, just as in females often do in biology, the direction of evolution. Sociobiology suggests that the forces of biological evolution are identical to the forces of cultural change. Shift theory agrees, but places the leverage of these changes in the body of the female arbitrated by her choice in mates and the changes in her body during pregnancy. Sexual selection, heterochrony (including neoteny and acceleration), and zygote and uterine selection join the sociobiological focus on natural selection as the forces that guide cultural change."

I read that a long time ago and saved it in a wordpad folder I have on my desktop called Facts, (it just has a lot of random stuff I've kept.). I don't really know what most of it means, but pretty much, instead of Natural Selection, where the women reproduces the "best" choice, such as the man who can swing the biggest hammer. To her own choice, that for example could be the man who has the most creative architectural ideas.

So my point is, women need to get their act together. No more Gangster babies. no more Abusive husband babies, no more "he's too lazy to get a job but i still love him" babies. We need more doctors, and scientists, we need more mechanics and engineers. I dont' know what else to add, but thanx.

[CatWoman]

I would only have two or three. I have no intention to boost the world Armenian population with my own body, despite of what my family believes lol.

hahaha...
Same here, no more than 3
And If my husband wants more, he can have them himself :D

[ArmoBarbi]

I'd like to see that. ( Especially with an Armenian man. ) lol

[Anonymouse]

I'm not sure what the argument here is, but here's an intersting fact. Women literally control 100% of evolution. I think I've said this before, but women, especially human women, choose who they reproduce.

"The human female determines in culture, just as in females often do in biology, the direction of evolution. Sociobiology suggests that the forces of biological evolution are identical to the forces of cultural change. Shift theory agrees, but places the leverage of these changes in the body of the female arbitrated by her choice in mates and the changes in her body during pregnancy. Sexual selection, heterochrony (including neoteny and acceleration), and zygote and uterine selection join the sociobiological focus on natural selection as the forces that guide cultural change."

I read that a long time ago and saved it in a wordpad folder I have on my desktop called Facts, (it just has a lot of random stuff I've kept.). I don't really know what most of it means, but pretty much, instead of Natural Selection, where the women reproduces the "best" choice, such as the man who can swing the biggest hammer. To her own choice, that for example could be the man who has the most creative architectural ideas.

So my point is, women need to get their act together. No more Gangster babies. no more Abusive husband babies, no more "he's too lazy to get a job but i still love him" babies. We need more doctors, and scientists, we need more mechanics and engineers. I dont' know what else to add, but thanx.

It is always the women that determine the quality and race of the future generations. That is why xxxs require ones xxxishness be based on the mother, and the Law of Return is based on this.

[ArmoBarbi]

It is always the women that determine the quality and race of the future generations. That is why xxxs require ones xxxishness be based on the mother, and the Law of Return is based on this.

I thought that was created as a strategy to keep the xxxish nation from dying out because of rape.

Its true that the mother (typically) has more to do with the way a child turns out. It is seen in studies, and one could take it as common sense.

It has been shown through studies, however, that a baby who regularly spends time with the father, as well as the mother, scores higher on IQ tests later in life. Just a side note, if anyone cares. :cool:

[IamLegend]

Armenian inbreeding.....for centuries and centuries we continue.... the end result, the majority of Armenian people retaining physical qualities similar to our neanderthal ancestors. Haha, I'm for Armenians continuing inbreeding, but I dont think we should be breeding just to put more Armenians out in the world. Look at the mexicans, they have like 10 kids..... I think quality before quantity. If families choose to have more children let it be "natural" any concept of quotas for the # of children a family should have is pretty artificial and just doesnt seem right for any reason.

[Anonymouse]

Armenian inbreeding.....for centuries and centuries we continue.... the end result, the majority of Armenian people retaining physical qualities similar to our neanderthal ancestors. Haha, I'm for Armenians continuing inbreeding, but I dont think we should be breeding just to put more Armenians out in the world. Look at the mexicans, they have like 10 kids..... I think quality before quantity. If families choose to have more children let it be "natural" any concept of quotas for the # of children a family should have is pretty artificial and just doesnt seem right for any reason.

I think we are all for quality here.

[CatWoman]

Sure quality first...
But as I said before, the only thing that scares me is the fact that if things don't change, in fifty years two of Armenia's Muslim neighbors will double their population while ours will decrease by 1/3! But then again, diaspora breeding won't really change that.

[EYYBABA23]

Quality, definitely before quantity! I think 2 is good since I'm an only child (always hated that, but there was war in Iran and baby materials were hard to come by believe it or not, so my parents weren't sure if it was a good idea to have another one, plus we were lagging on getting out of there for years so I never got to have any brother(s) or sister(s) :crying: ) and more than two, you're just asking for it!

And always remember, it's better if you can provide better quality life for 2 children than an average life for 5 of them, plus with the way the world and the people in this world are, sometimes it feels like a sin to have children in this day and age. (no offense to all you good people out there reading this)

[Hayq]

2 makes the population stay the same. 3 gives it growth.