Sex before marriage

[Artsakhtsi]

Hi people!

I wonder if u already have discussed this topic! I'm realy curious what u people think about it, it's kind of popular subject here ....
For example arevamothyer e they ussualy do not accept such a thing, same with hayastantsi.... but parskahyer e .... are more openmined ( the ones i know).
So tell me, what do u think, and what does people around u think?!

Thanks 8)

http://www.cartoons4fun.com/cool/virginity.jpg

p.s. question to guys - which one do u prefer virgin or not ?

[TigranJamharian]

i myself definately prefer virgins, for reasons that it wouldn't be civil to talk about now

[Artsakhtsi]

i myself definately prefer virgins, for reasons that it wouldn't be civil to talk about now

What kind of reasons? .... i'm even more curious now

[violette829]

The only way that I would accept a man only wanting virgins is if he was a virgin himself. You are such a hypocrit if u want ur future wife to be a virgin when u've probably slept with 100 women. I, myself, would rather have the man I'm going to be with forever to be my first, but that's a "dream". These days, men are even turned off by the fact that a girl could be "uhhum 22" and still a virgin. It's like something's wrong with us. LOL They don't know that we don't like to spread our legs for ever Tom, xxxx and Harout that happens to come along. In conclusion, you should only want a virgin, if u are one urself. However, I don't think I can fight these urges for much longer. I'm like Blanche from Golden Girls. OOOOOOH LA LA :oops: :shock:

[Artsakhtsi]

The only way that I would accept a man only wanting virgins is if he was a virgin himself. You are such a hypocrit if u want ur future wife to be a virgin when u've probably slept with 100 women. I, myself, would rather have the man I'm going to be with forever to be my first, but that's a "dream". These days, men are even turned off by the fact that a girl could be "uhhum 22" and still a virgin. It's like something's wrong with us. LOL They don't know that we don't like to spread our legs for ever Tom, xxxx and Harout that happens to come along. In conclusion, you should only want a virgin, if u are one urself. However, I don't think I can fight these urges for much longer. I'm like Blanche from Golden Girls. OOOOOOH LA LA :oops: :shock:


Thanx for answering me,

I agree.... how can u not accept non-virgin, if u self have been with 100 women....
(Live story)
He-26
She-20
He- had sex in 13 years of his live..... his ½ life
She- had sex with 1
He blames her for that, tellin that, it's a terrible thing to do...it's a shame :?
(the both are armenians)

8)

[ckBejug]

I, myself, would rather have the man I'm going to be with forever to be my first.

Agreed!


However, I don't really care if the guy isn't a virgin (as long as he wasn't a one-night stand loving man-xxxxx), I would be VERY suprised if he was a virgin because even among guys who aren't skirt chasers and have slept with lots of women, I know most guys have slept with one or maybe two girls when they were together, etc. I know it happens and so I am ok with it.

[ckBejug]

One question:

Does virgin=

Someone who has had NO sexual experience whatsoever (basically, only ever kissed someone on the mouth...).

OR

Someone who hasn't had intercourse.

[Artsakhtsi]

One question:

Does virgin=

Someone who has had NO sexual experience whatsoever (basically, only ever kissed someone on the mouth...).

OR

Someone who hasn't had intercourse.


hi,

what i ment was ., the one who has had no sexual ACT whatsoeve= f--c
8)

[Anonymouse]

I would prefer a virgin, but then again in this day and age it's fallacy.

These days everyone sleeps around whether out of love or soulless sex, it doesn't matter, and they turn around and lie to their new boyfriends that they are 'virgins'. It's all too common. Some girls are 'born again virgins' and some even have sex, yet in their sick demented mind some how convince themselves that they are still virgins and tell their next boyfriend that they are virgins. After all the lack of virgins these days goes hand in hand with the high divorce rate, and reflects the overall promiscious cultural lifestyle espoused by Hollywood movies, music and trendy pop culture.

So I don't care anymore I just wanna xxxx.

[omniscient]

hey Artsakhtsi,
i don't know what your stand on this subject was but you have to have sex before marriage. the physical part of a relationship is a huge factor.
if a couple gets married before having sex that could be trouble. because you dont know how the two of you will connect on the physical level. the chemistry might not be there. and i know a few marriages that just havent gone well at all because of the lack of "love making" or performing sexual acts, whatever you wanna call it. theres a lot of other reasons but i dont like typing essays on this thing like some people do religiously.

p.s. even though i've been a bad boy :twisted: , i would be ok with my future wife not being a virgin, even though i prefer virgin. but thats rare with girls nowadays too. as long as she hasnt been with too many guys then i wouldnt see a problem

[TigranJamharian]

anonymouse do you realize that a virgin's vagina is tight? having sex for the first time "tears" the vagina slightly and it makes a big difference that is why men like virgins because they are tighter. sorry to get so graphic here but that is why girls cannot lie to their boyfriends telling them that they are virgins when htey are not, the guy should be able to tell.

[Artsakhtsi]

hi,

what i ment was ., the one who has had no sexual ACT whatsoeve= f--c
8)

what is f--c


oh, i'm sorry i ment f--k :oops:

[Artsakhtsi]

anonymouse do you realize that a virgin's vagina is tight? having sex for the first time "tears" the vagina slightly and it makes a big difference that is why men like virgins because they are tighter. sorry to get so graphic here but that is why girls cannot lie to their boyfriends telling them that they are virgins when htey are not, the guy should be able to tell.

Ow, now i understand the main reason u prefering the virigins...
It does sound very egoistic of u..... i'm sorry to say this.Tight not tight ... that's the wrong thinking, .... it doesn't have to be about that, the main reason i wrote this topic... was to know how do u guys/girls think : is it realy fair to ask for a virgin, when u self r fooling around?!

Hej, why LIE? what's the point? Let him know- don't u like it- then go and find some virgin. To lie is stupid .

[Artsakhtsi]

I would prefer a virgin, but then again in this day and age it's fallacy.

These days everyone sleeps around whether out of love or soulless sex, it doesn't matter, and they turn around and lie to their new boyfriends that they are 'virgins'. It's all too common. Some girls are 'born again virgins' and some even have sex, yet in their sick demented mind some how convince themselves that they are still virgins and tell their next boyfriend that they are virgins. After all the lack of virgins these days goes hand in hand with the high divorce rate, and reflects the overall promiscious cultural lifestyle espoused by Hollywood movies, music and trendy pop culture.

So I don't care anymore I just wanna xxxx.

hi, thanx for answering.

Being non-virgin doesn't have to be equal to *sleep around* i mean why can't u have a normal relationship with a guy u love which includes sex? is it wrong? And it's not just about *xxxx* ....
it's more then that 8)

[ckBejug]

That's very true, what Artsakhtsi said. AND to a certain extent (perhaps within the bounadries of someone you're engaged to?) I agree with what omnicient said about sexual compatability, it plays a big part of life after marriage and as such should be explored because it would suck to find yourself married to someone you can't get along with in bed.

I think what mousie is talking about is those girls who sleep around with guys. Not the girls who sleep with the guy they are in love with, etc etc and it ends up not working out. I am sure tigran that he would be able to recognize when/if a girl was lying, so I don't think he needed the step by step how to figure that out guide! :?

So it seems we all want in our prospective mate someone who hasn't tended to sleep around too much and has had meaningful sex instead of just mindless f-ing, right?

At any rate, to each his own.

[Anonymouse]

anonymouse do you realize that a virgin's vagina is tight? having sex for the first time "tears" the vagina slightly and it makes a big difference that is why men like virgins because they are tighter. sorry to get so graphic here but that is why girls cannot lie to their boyfriends telling them that they are virgins when theey are not, the guy should be able to tell.

Tigran, you don't need to lecture me on how a girl is tight or not. If you are so trained with girls then you of all should know that girls do lie, just like guys. Unlike you they do not think in terms tightness, they have an "image" to uphold, and theyll make themselves believe they are virgins, it almost like the Emperors New Clothes. Now whether or not the guy later notices is his problem, but they lie. I don't say this because I'm making this up, I say this because it happens. Let it end there.

[Artsakhtsi]

hey Artsakhtsi,
i don't know what your stand on this subject was but you have to have sex before marriage. the physical part of a relationship is a huge factor.
if a couple gets married before having sex that could be trouble. because you dont know how the two of you will connect on the physical level. the chemistry might not be there. and i know a few marriages that just havent gone well at all because of the lack of "love making" or performing sexual acts, whatever you wanna call it. theres a lot of other reasons but i dont like typing essays on this thing like some people do religiously.

p.s. even though i've been a bad boy :twisted: , i would be ok with my future wife not being a virgin, even though i prefer virgin. but thats rare with girls nowadays too. as long as she hasnt been with too many guys then i wouldnt see a problem

Hi, thankyou for answering me!

The think is, that sex is an important part in marriage - let's face it. And like you said, it can be a trouble on that front, why put your self truth so much trouble, when u can avoid it., Then again it is everyones personal choise wether do it or not. The main problem is that we all do such a big deal of it :? lies, blamings..... hm

I personaly would accept the guy, as long as HE hasn't been with too many ...

[Anonymouse]

I would prefer a virgin, but then again in this day and age it's fallacy.

These days everyone sleeps around whether out of love or soulless sex, it doesn't matter, and they turn around and lie to their new boyfriends that they are 'virgins'. It's all too common. Some girls are 'born again virgins' and some even have sex, yet in their sick demented mind some how convince themselves that they are still virgins and tell their next boyfriend that they are virgins. After all the lack of virgins these days goes hand in hand with the high divorce rate, and reflects the overall promiscious cultural lifestyle espoused by Hollywood movies, music and trendy pop culture.

So I don't care anymore I just wanna xxxx.

hi, thanx for answering.

Being non-virgin doesn't have to be equal to *sleep around* i mean why can't u have a normal relationship with a guy u love which includes sex? is it wrong? And it's not just about *xxxx* ....
it's more then that 8)

I never said you can't. But this is a deviation from the traditional "christian" upbringing most Armenians are raised with. Then for all purposes we have to now drop religion and its tenets and instead conform to the new secular outlook on stuff. Marriage is just a social institution created by man, along with the "nuclear family", its again another part of mans aims to transcend his animality and give himself some nobleness. But marriage is artificial, only a state of mind, and a piece of paper. Take that away, a married "husband and wife" are no different than someone who is not married. Hell, Neanderthal man just used his woman for mating purposes.

[Artsakhtsi]

[quote="Anonymouse"]I would prefer a virgin, but then again in this day and age it's fallacy.

These days everyone sleeps around whether out of love or soulless sex, it doesn't matter, and they turn around and lie to their new boyfriends that they are 'virgins'. It's all too common. Some girls are 'born again virgins' and some even have sex, yet in their sick demented mind some how convince themselves that they are still virgins and tell their next boyfriend that they are virgins. After all the lack of virgins these days goes hand in hand with the high divorce rate, and reflects the overall promiscious cultural lifestyle espoused by Hollywood movies, music and trendy pop culture.

So I don't care anymore I just wanna xxxx.

hi, thanx for answering.

Being non-virgin doesn't have to be equal to *sleep around* i mean why can't u have a normal relationship with a guy u love which includes sex? is it wrong? And it's not just about *xxxx* ....
it's more then that 8)

I never said you can't. But this is a deviation from the traditional "christian" upbringing most Armenians are raised with. Then for all purposes we have to now drop religion and its tenets and instead conform to the new secular outlook on stuff. Marriage is just a social institution created by man, along with the "nuclear family", its again another part of mans aims to transcend his animality and give himself some nobleness. But marriage is artificial, only a state of mind, and a piece of paper. Take that away, a married "husband and wife" are no different than someone who is not married.

No, we don't have to *drop religion* , we just can not follow Bibel at 100% ,as much as we want to, time is changing and u can not do anything about it..., unless we stop to develop (it's not a perfect solution).
We just gotta stop to think of sex as it it a sin, why can't we think of it as a beautiful act of love?! Well that's only if u r not fooling around with everyone u see , and don't care, coz the only think u want - is just f-ck!

I agree, the part about* image * , we were raised to not forget the fact,that we are armenins....and by knowing how ppl(including armos) ussualy looooove to gossip, we better be carefull.

[Artsakhtsi]

I would prefer a virgin, but then again in this day and age it's fallacy.

These days everyone sleeps around whether out of love or soulless sex, it doesn't matter, and they turn around and lie to their new boyfriends that they are 'virgins'. It's all too common. Some girls are 'born again virgins' and some even have sex, yet in their sick demented mind some how convince themselves that they are still virgins and tell their next boyfriend that they are virgins. After all the lack of virgins these days goes hand in hand with the high divorce rate, and reflects the overall promiscious cultural lifestyle espoused by Hollywood movies, music and trendy pop culture.

So I don't care anymore I just wanna xxxx.

hi, thanx for answering.

Being non-virgin doesn't have to be equal to *sleep around* i mean why can't u have a normal relationship with a guy u love which includes sex? is it wrong? And it's not just about *xxxx* ....
it's more then that 8)

I never said you can't. But this is a deviation from the traditional "christian" upbringing most Armenians are raised with. Then for all purposes we have to now drop religion and its tenets and instead conform to the new secular outlook on stuff. Marriage is just a social institution created by man, along with the "nuclear family", its again another part of mans aims to transcend his animality and give himself some nobleness. But marriage is artificial, only a state of mind, and a piece of paper. Take that away, a married "husband and wife" are no different than someone who is not married. Hell, Neanderthal man just used his woman for mating purposes.


No, we don't have to *drop religion* , we just can not follow Bibel at 100% ,as much as we want to, time is changing and u can not do anything about it..., unless we stop to develop (it's not a perfect solution).
We just gotta stop to think of sex as it it a sin, why can't we think of it as a beautiful act of love?! Well that's only if u r not fooling around with everyone u see , and don't care, coz the only think u want - is just f-ck!

I agree, the part about* image * , we were raised to not forget the fact,that we are armenins....and by knowing how ppl(including armos) ussualy looooove to gossip, we better be carefull.

**Hell, Neanderthal man just used his woman for mating purposes.[/quote]**

usED? past? most of man still does use women for mating purposes, maybe that's why guys ussualy compares sex to something dirty and sinful :rolleyes:


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[Artsakhtsi]

So it seems we all want in our prospective mate someone who hasn't tended to sleep around too much and has had meaningful sex instead of just mindless f-ing, right? (ckBejug)



Fair enough! Don't u think :?:

[Anonymouse]

[quote="Anonymouse"]I would prefer a virgin, but then again in this day and age it's fallacy.

These days everyone sleeps around whether out of love or soulless sex, it doesn't matter, and they turn around and lie to their new boyfriends that they are 'virgins'. It's all too common. Some girls are 'born again virgins' and some even have sex, yet in their sick demented mind some how convince themselves that they are still virgins and tell their next boyfriend that they are virgins. After all the lack of virgins these days goes hand in hand with the high divorce rate, and reflects the overall promiscious cultural lifestyle espoused by Hollywood movies, music and trendy pop culture.

So I don't care anymore I just wanna xxxx.

hi, thanx for answering.

Being non-virgin doesn't have to be equal to *sleep around* i mean why can't u have a normal relationship with a guy u love which includes sex? is it wrong? And it's not just about *xxxx* ....
it's more then that 8)

I never said you can't. But this is a deviation from the traditional "christian" upbringing most Armenians are raised with. Then for all purposes we have to now drop religion and its tenets and instead conform to the new secular outlook on stuff. Marriage is just a social institution created by man, along with the "nuclear family", its again another part of mans aims to transcend his animality and give himself some nobleness. But marriage is artificial, only a state of mind, and a piece of paper. Take that away, a married "husband and wife" are no different than someone who is not married.

No, we don't have to *drop religion* , we just can not follow Bibel at 100% ,as much as we want to, time is changing and u can not do anything about it..., unless we stop to develop (it's not a perfect solution).
We just gotta stop to think of sex as it it a sin, why can't we think of it as a beautiful act of love?! Well that's only if u r not fooling around with everyone u see , and don't care, coz the only think u want - is just f-ck!

I agree, the part about* image * , we were raised to not forget the fact,that we are armenins....and by knowing how ppl(including armos) ussualy looooove to gossip, we better be carefull.

The "image" I am referring to is not about being Armenians, it's this image that girls have of themselves as "pure" even the xxxxty ones that xxxx around with every walking thing. That is what drives some to extreme ends of making them selves actually believe that they are virgins.

Actually I have a perfect solution to stay virgin. Just take it up the ass.

[ckBejug]

Actually I have a perfect solution to stay virgin. Just take it up the ass.

:? :!:

[anileve]

I never said you can't. But this is a deviation from the traditional "christian" upbringing most Armenians are raised with. Then for all purposes we have to now drop religion and its tenets and instead conform to the new secular outlook on stuff. Marriage is just a social institution created by man, along with the "nuclear family", its again another part of mans aims to transcend his animality and give himself some nobleness. But marriage is artificial, only a state of mind, and a piece of paper. Take that away, a married "husband and wife" are no different than someone who is not married. Hell, Neanderthal man just used his woman for mating purposes.

Agreed. Your signature is gross.

[anileve]

anonymouse do you realize that a virgin's vagina is tight? having sex for the first time "tears" the vagina slightly and it makes a big difference that is why men like virgins because they are tighter. sorry to get so graphic here but that is why girls cannot lie to their boyfriends telling them that they are virgins when htey are not, the guy should be able to tell.

This is a misconception; you should learn female anatomy and stop listening to your male friends. A vagina does not tear during the primary intercourse. You might say that the hymen tears, but that is also not a standard occurrence, since that can happen during other activities or because of other reasons all together. Also it can feel much tighter if a woman abstained from sex for a very long period of time and her vagina contracts, therefore you can be fooled into believing that she’s a virgin. Being with a virgin is completely psychological. That being said I also prefer a virgin, they are very easy to teach.

[Artsakhtsi]

***Actually I have a perfect solution to stay virgin. Just take it up the ass.*** ( Anonymous)


I didn't get that one

[ArikAgamian]

haha il explain later

anyway to answer your question yes of course i believe in sex before marriage and would not want a virgin.

Firstly because obviously the sex with a virgin would be crap....and secondly where i am from finding a virgin would be like finding a golden pot at the end of the rainbow...ie it doesnt happen
Here in Eire girls are having sex from as young an age as 15 and Virgins at my age (22) dont exist....if there are they would be looked upon as some sort of freaks.
and since i lost my virginity 6 years ago its unfair to expect a woman to be one.

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by ArikAgamian
haha il explain later

anyway to answer your question yes of course i believe in sex before marriage and would not want a virgin.

Firstly because obviously the sex with a virgin would be crap....and secondly where i am from finding a virgin would be like finding a golden pot at the end of the rainbow...ie it doesnt happen
Here in Eire girls are having sex from as young an age as 15 and Virgins at my age (22) dont exist....if there are they would be looked upon as some sort of freaks.
and since i lost my virginity 6 years ago its unfair to expect a woman to be one.


Halleluja


p.s. explain what and when?:rolleyes:

thanx

[ArikAgamian]

what and where what???

bit confused....
ps nice pics.....inga from sweden ya for sure

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by ArikAgamian
what and where what???

bit confused....
ps nice pics.....inga from sweden ya for sure

what pics? u r confusing me ...hm...




Originally posted by ArikAgamian
haha il explain later <--------


explain what?

see ya

[ArikAgamian]

just read over the other posts again

if you meant when and where regarding my virginity then it was here in ireland when i was 16

re the pics you posted the link to your profile on another thread..you live in sweden rite??

anyway back to the subject of this thread
you a virgin?want to marry one?or are indifferent to marrying one??

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by ArikAgamian
just read over the other posts again

if you meant when and where regarding my virginity then it was here in ireland when i was 16

re the pics you posted the link to your profile on another thread..you live in sweden rite??

anyway back to the subject of this thread
you a virgin?want to marry one?or are indifferent to marrying one??


Like u said. communication breakdown eh.... anyway,

I realy do not prefer a virgin, i would rather be with someone a lil bit more experienced .
However...it's not a dig deal(virgin or not)..... as long as he respects and loves me , nothing else is important.

p.s yes, i live in Sweden, and no, i didn't mean to ask u about the age and place u lost your virginity ;) but thanx for sharing it with me !

best wishes

[Anonymouse]

Whatever, virgins or non-virgins, they can all die anyway, nothing beats blow up dolls!

[anileve]

That’s the right attitude! I am glad that you have finally admitted your real preference.

[Anonymouse]

Precisely, my poisonous little parodist, you lose your pathetic purpose my dear, in essence parthenogenesis.

Indeed, hail to the blowup dolls.

[anileve]

Why don’t you go munch on a Rat Poison, Anon? If my sense of purpose is to procreate with the likeness of you, I would rather commit to vasectomy. :rolleyes:

I have started noticing more and more, how eager men are to cheat on their partners. Even the most devoted husband deviates from the path of fidelity, the moment he is in a company of a young skirt. Why are men so quick to cheat? I find that women can resist offers much more than men; men have a difficult time admitting to an attractive woman that they have a girlfriend. Why? Is it that “Greener Pastures Syndrome”?

[Artsakhtsi]

It is unfortunately their nature....:mad:

[ckBejug]

do you think some people are maybe prone to having their partners cheat on them or something? I dunno. Maybe it's retarded to say it's your fault if someone cheats on you. And maybe I'm still pissy about my ex, but this dude got cheated on by all three of his previous girlfriends (except me). who knows these things?

All i know is that sometimes people totally suck. even if they might not do things in a premeditated manner, as planning to cheat, etc, the fact that they do it without being truthful to those they are with and just lie like a chickenxxxx means they suck big fat rotten eggs.

ok. i'm done.

i like truth. i tell you to your face you're smelly (in a nice way, of course!). if i tell you to your back you might not hear me and shower..........

[Anonymouse]

xxxx cheaters.

I would break up anyday with a wife or a girlfriend, before banging a hot 19 year old that I met while golfing.

But then again since I have blowup dolls that wouldn't be considered cheating, since blowup dolls are not sentient beings.

Or are they?

[anileve]

Seriously why do men have a hard time admitting that they are attached? Why are they so easy to bend, what is it that goes through their mind? I love the one that goes: “Let’s get together for lunch and I’ll tell you how miserable my married life is.” Or the one where you mention their wife and they brush off the topic. What goes through a man’s mind when he is on the verge of cheating?

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by anileve
Seriously why do men have a hard time admitting that they are attached? Why are they so easy to bend, what is it that goes through their mind? I love the one that goes: “Let’s get together for lunch and I’ll tell you how miserable my married life is.” Or the one where you mention their wife and they brush off the topic. What goes through a man’s mind when he is on the verge of cheating?

Not all man cheat... u might find one some day - if u get lucky ;)

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by anileve
Seriously why do men have a hard time admitting that they are attached? Why are they so easy to bend, what is it that goes through their mind? I love the one that goes: “Let’s get together for lunch and I’ll tell you how miserable my married life is.” Or the one where you mention their wife and they brush off the topic. What goes through a man’s mind when he is on the verge of cheating?

A poor soul who has found someone that does not understand him is the answer.

Of course the same could be said of women.

What goes through the minds of those who are on the verge of being unfaithful?

I believe that it is truly rare that we find someone who understands us for us, to paraphrase the moral of what my mom taught me from her younger days at school upon hearing another student's essay.. "Happiness is to be understood".

Do not give me that whole "opposites attract" bullxxxx either, that's just sexual lust.

[jahannam]

Originally posted by anileve
I love the one that goes: “Let’s get together for lunch and I’ll tell you how miserable my married life is.”

I've heard you say that before!
do me a favor!
STOP seducing married men...
lol
I thought you don't like experienced men anyway... since they're not "easy to teach"...
you sound like you've been there done EVERYTHING...
just what in the world are you doing in a thread about virgins?

[ckBejug]

Originally posted by Anonymouse
A poor soul who has found someone that does not understand him is the answer.

Of course the same could be said of women.

What goes through the minds of those who are on the verge of being unfaithful?

I believe that it is truly rare that we find someone who understands us for us, to paraphrase the moral of what my mom taught me from her younger days at school upon hearing another student's essay.. "Happiness is to be understood".

Do not give me that whole "opposites attract" bullxxxx either, that's just sexual lust.

Here's a good question that fits in here in the cheaters topic. After going out with a guy for 2 years (on and off) and being none the wiser I found out through the randomest coincidence that he HAD a girlfriend. He dated me and slept with her. Haha, errrr, grr. So in that case what the hell was I to do??? I wasn't cheating on anyone, but I was quite without my knowing chosen to be the 'other woman' yech.

Sometimes I wonder what goes on through the minds of the cheaters, but not the one who is cheating on his/her significant other. The one who is not attached and has decided to become the other person. Does that make sense? Like if (and this would never happen) I had been ok dating this guy who was practically engaged, what the hell would have been going on in my head.

Maybe we need perspective from someone who's done this. Cheated. Maybe there is more to it that what I can see to be an awful betrayal just for physical gratification.

[anileve]

Ck being the other woman, admittedly can be fun only if you do not know his partner, since you control the entire relationship and no commitments are involved. However, it get tiring and after a while you realize how pathetic the situation is and how pathetic he is and you just don’t want to be a part of it. Women and men cheat, however more men (as I have said before) have a problem admitting to women they find attractive that they are attached. Women as long as they are in love or love someone don’t hesitate much to announce their availability.

http://www.stuckatwork.com/smileys/girlxxxx.gif

[pheral]

that sucks, but your gonna find players all over, in different categories, sadly theres no guarantee.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by pheral that sucks, but your gonna find players all over, in different categories, sadly theres no guarantee.

YOU AGAIN???! Please capitalize the first letter in every sentence.

[fstkhnan]

I dont know! does it ever happen to any of u, where u dont like a guy and he likes u a lot, and once u start liking him, he just ignores the hell out of u , and doesnt like u anymore, or pretends that he doesnt like u !!!!isnt that annoying??? I want a guy to explain to me the secret that lies behind this!!!!

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by fstkhnan I dont know! does it ever happen to any of u, where u dont like a guy and he likes u a lot, and once u start liking him, he just ignores the hell out of u , and doesnt like u anymore, or pretends that he doesnt like u !!!!isnt that annoying??? I want a guy to explain to me the secret that lies behind this!!!!

That's funny, all this time I thought you were a guy you know. Well, you know, with you sporting that jeep, and all those grammatical errors, I didn't know what to think.

But glad to see youre not a sausage, just a tom boy.

[fstkhnan]

Originally posted by Anonymouse That's funny, all this time I thought you were a guy you know. Well, you know, with you sporting that jeep, and all those grammatical errors, I didn't know what to think.

But glad to see youre not a sausage, just a tom boy.
grammatical errors? hahahaha....... I'm not boring like other girls, who have angels next to their names...:D :D :D :D :) :)

[sSsflamesSs]

I'm not boring. I have one of those 49% angel/51% devil baby tees. That one percent makes me soooo bad. Yea totally, like I'm going to go dye my hair blonde tomorrow. And then get another one of those cute, witty shirts. See, I'm special like fskhkhfsa girl, she's so unique and cool. Oh wow.

http://home.att.net/~miranda8980/quatre-heero.jpg

[Anonymouse]

Wow, so you compensate for your lack of angels with a jeep.

[fstkhnan]

whatsup with u guys not being able to figure out my username.....it's so simple...since im fstkh and my name is nanor the username will be "fstkhnan"...yeghadze???

[sSsflamesSs]

*SHOCKED*

I'll have you know that I suffer from dyslexia, and your username is not making me feel any better about my neurological disorder.

[fstkhnan]

you are soo soo "funny"!

[sSsflamesSs]

*blushing * I try.

No, not really.

[NighT HawK]

Originally posted by TigranJamharian anonymouse do you realize that a virgin's vagina is tight? having sex for the first time "tears" the vagina slightly and it makes a big difference that is why men like virgins because they are tighter. sorry to get so graphic here but that is why girls cannot lie to their boyfriends telling them that they are virgins when htey are not, the guy should be able to tell.


Tigran....

Sorry to rain on your parade like this mate - but you are WRONG!
Sexual intercourse neither wears nor tears any woman
UNLESS the male is ignorant enough not to wait till she's ready
or alternatively, fakes foreplay which in that case female fakes orgasm..

It is a known fact,
Having more frequent sex keeps vagina tighter for the sole fact
that any human muscle that gets regular exercise builds up...
Just like your biceps ;)

It is also a known fact,
That an average male measures about 6.5"
...and an average woman can take well over 8.5", eliminates
your theory of female vagina loosing its shape, form or tightness just cause
she penetrates with something already smaller than what she's
created to handle...

What deforms female genital organ is nothing more than
giving a birth to a child (specially big headed Armenian male baby)
or having equall intensity - an abortion...

Having said that,
I must also add why guys like virgins -
It is nothing more than typical male coital inferiority complex..
Men do have a problem with the woman they are in relationship
having more experience than they do...
...and the fact that some of those other guys she slept with
may be better than himself...
Which results in idiotic post-coital questions like
" was I the best? Was it as good for you as it was for me?" etc..

I personally like girls who are not virgins..
I think experience and knowing what she wants in bed adds
a great deal not only to woman's sexuality but also to my sexual experience..

My two cents worth...and keep the change ;)

[NighT HawK]

Originally posted by fstkhnan I dont know! does it ever happen to any of u, where u dont like a guy and he likes u a lot, and once u start liking him, he just ignores the hell out of u , and doesnt like u anymore, or pretends that he doesnt like u !!!!isnt that annoying??? I want a guy to explain to me the secret that lies behind this!!!!

Fstkhnan,

No it doesn't happen to me ;)

No matter how nice they may be,
GUYS are NOT MY TYPE...

I like mine with LESS HAIR and MORE CURVES you see ;)

hehehe (evil grin)

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by NighT HawK Tigran....

Sorry to rain on your parade like this mate - but you are WRONG!
Sexual intercourse neither wears nor tears any woman
UNLESS the male is ignorant enough not to wait till she's ready
or alternatively, fakes foreplay which in that case female fakes orgasm..

It is a known fact,
Having more frequent sex keeps vagina tighter for the sole fact
that any human muscle that gets regular exercise builds up...
Just like your biceps ;)

It is also a known fact,
That an average male measures about 6.5"
...and an average woman can take well over 8.5", eliminates
your theory of female vagina loosing its shape, form or tightness just cause
she penetrates with something already smaller than what she's
created to handle...

What deforms female genital organ is nothing more than
giving a birth to a child (specially big headed Armenian male baby)
or having equall intensity - an abortion...

Having said that,
I must also add why guys like virgins -
It is nothing more than typical male coital inferiority complex..
Men do have a problem with the woman they are in relationship
having more experience than they do...
...and the fact that some of those other guys she slept with
may be better than himself...
Which results in idiotic post-coital questions like
" was I the best? Was it as good for you as it was for me?" etc..

I personally like girls who are not virgins..
I think experience and knowing what she wants in bed adds
a great deal not only to woman's sexuality but also to my sexual experience..

My two cents worth...and keep the change ;)

You will find Tigran will be most displeased by this.

[NighT HawK]

Originally posted by Anonymouse You will find Tigran will be most displeased by this.


My apologies...

My post is not directed at Tigran as a person..
No offence intended..
I saw a misinformative post and merely responded to it
in the nicest way I know how.

I don't think discussions should be taken on a personal level.
If this is the case I will refrain from posting on this forum again
in order to avoid such misunderstandings between other
forum members and myself.

In a discussion forum such as this one,
Everyone should be allowed to voice their opinion, especially if the
opinion voiced are FACTS!

Thank you for your warning. It is NOTED.
:)

[Anonymouse]

I was being sarcastic sir. Post as you wish, for I do the same.

[NighT HawK]

Originally posted by Anonymouse I was being sarcastic sir. Post as you wish, for I do the same.

Thank you :)

I guess I'll have to get to know you all a little better to be able
to translate sarcasm you attach to your posts huh ??

No worries mate - all in good time.
;)

[Sev21]

Well...

A virgin for commitment...
A non-virgin for fun...

Pretty much it...

[tortoise26]

with narrow-minded egotistic armenian men like this, no wonder a lot of armenian girls have trouble finding a great man to grow old with.

[Anonymouse]

Um, I think you all should die.

[whitelotus]

did you all know that there are procedures where woman go to the doctors office and have the doctor put back the hymen ? see when the hymen breaks, it doesnt leave the body, it remains in shreds in the body, like a spider web, and those pieces are able to be sown back together to a point where the male would think the woman partner is a virgin

i think this is what anon was reffering to when he said some woman take the extrems to say or think they are still virgins when in fact they have slept around a lot, and some woman come back for this procedure well over 5 times, they lie to every single partner they are with, and these woman are actually Armenian, lol go figure.

its a sad world where some woman or have to resort to something like this, if it means there partner wants a virgin, or they just want to put on a pure and innocent act.

its scary.

[djp818]

Would you buy a car without test driving it first???

[whitelotus]

crack me up :D

[tortoise26]

yeah, thats really sad. its sad for several reasons. first, it sucks that a man would care that much about the true "virginity" of his partner. past activities should be discussed openly (but not in great detail) when you're in a relationship. If he wants someone he can "mold" and teach, he should date a 16 year old (which they often do). If I were a guy, I would be surprised (in a bad way) if a 25 year old girl hadnt even had a relationship. second, its retarded that women would care about the perception men have of them. if youre so concerned about what your future mate is going to think, then you should not xxxxx around in the first place. lying about it isnt exactly a good method to ensure a perception of "purity".

This topic kinda aggravates me, actually. I was in a 6 year relationship that ended 2 years ago due to sad reasons. I dont think anyone i date now is ever going to believe or assume that I havent participated in any sexual activities..... does that mean i'm a bad girlfriend? hell no. it means that i know what it takes to make a relationship work. it means that i am loyal, and committed. and yes...it means i know how to please my man...and any guy i love from now on will be lucky to have me in his life. Just because my body isnt as "pure" as it was at birth, doesnt mean my heart is tainted.

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by Anonymouse I would prefer a virgin, but then again in this day and age it's fallacy.

These days everyone sleeps around whether out of love or soulless sex, it doesn't matter, and they turn around and lie to their new boyfriends that they are 'virgins'.

I'm yet to meet an Armenian girl who is a virgin...either that or they're all liars.

My last girlfriend (and conversely first real girlfriend) was Hayastansi and it was xxxxing 4 months before we even kissed, it was ridiculous, but I loved her and was willing to wait...well, that was irrelivent. Point is, she definitly is a virgin and I would have xxxxing married her but she xxxxing left me.

Wait, that was irrelivent too, can you tell I'm bitter?

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by Tramanian I'm yet to meet an Armenian girl who is a virgin...



Actually, I meant "Isn't a virgin." But I'm a little drunk. And by "a little" I actually mean "totally xxxxing gone." May the God that I don't believe in damn Anastaseia.

Seriously, if what is said in this thread is true about Parskahye girls then no more Hayastansi or Beirutsi girls for me...it's all persian from now on, I can't go another year without sex and I can't wait four xxxxing months to kiss a girl. xxxxing Ana.

no really, I'm not bitter and I'm sober, I swear.

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by tortoise26 yeah, thats really sad. its sad for several reasons. first, it sucks that a man would care that much about the true "virginity" of his partner. past activities should be discussed openly (but not in great detail) when you're in a relationship. If he wants someone he can "mold" and teach, he should date a 16 year old (which they often do). If I were a guy, I would be surprised (in a bad way) if a 25 year old girl hadnt even had a relationship. second, its retarded that women would care about the perception men have of them. if youre so concerned about what your future mate is going to think, then you should not xxxxx around in the first place. lying about it isnt exactly a good method to ensure a perception of "purity".

This topic kinda aggravates me, actually. I was in a 6 year relationship that ended 2 years ago due to sad reasons. I dont think anyone i date now is ever going to believe or assume that I havent participated in any sexual activities..... does that mean i'm a bad girlfriend? hell no. it means that i know what it takes to make a relationship work. it means that i am loyal, and committed. and yes...it means i know how to please my man...and any guy i love from now on will be lucky to have me in his life. Just because my body isnt as "pure" as it was at birth, doesnt mean my heart is tainted.


Bravo, bra-xxxxing-vo

[sSsflamesSs]

Originally posted by Tramanian Actually, I meant "Isn't a virgin." But I'm a little drunk. And by "a little" I actually mean "totally xxxxing gone." May the God that I don't believe in damn Anastaseia.

Seriously, if what is said in this thread is true about Parskahye girls then no more Hayastansi or Beirutsi girls for me...it's all persian from now on, I can't go another year without sex and I can't wait four xxxxing months to kiss a girl. xxxxing Ana.

no really, I'm not bitter and I'm sober, I swear.

What about Parskahye girls? What about 'em? Care to refresh my memory?

Oh, and I had a good laugh with your first 2 posts ("I'm bitter, no wait, no really, I'm not bitter and I'm sober.")

[fstkhnan]

well..... I think at least one of the partners should be kinda experienced......and, since it matters much more if the girl is virgin than the guy...then personally, I would stay virgin till marriage!!!! but that doesnt mean that I would prefer virgin guys!!!;)

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by sSsflamesSs What about Parskahye girls? What about 'em? Care to refresh my memory?

Oh, and I had a good laugh with your first 2 posts ("I'm bitter, no wait, no really, I'm not bitter and I'm sober.")


As for Parskahye girls:
Someone in the beginning of this thread said that they tend to be more lienient about sex.

As for your good laugh:
I'm glad you had a good laugh :)

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by Anonymouse Um, I think you all should die.

Sounds good to me.

[Anonymouse]

Indeed.

[sSsflamesSs]

Originally posted by fstkhnan well..... I think at least one of the partners should be kinda experienced......and, since it matters much more if the girl is virgin than the guy...then personally, I would stay virgin till marriage!!!! but that doesnt mean that I would prefer virgin guys!!!;)

Dude, we're talking about sex...something humans are programmed to do. It's not like learning how to drive...it's intrinsic. So what, you don't want to spend some time teaching each other? You'd rather have one of the partners be used? :D

[Anonymouse]

Don't forget that this whole idea of "sex until marriage" is a very recent concept that came with the inception of Christianity.

Humans had lived here for thousands of years prior and were not bound by these absolute rules.

[sSsflamesSs]

Originally posted by Anonymouse Don't forget that this whole idea of "sex until marriage" is a very recent concept that came with the inception of Christianity.

Humans had lived here for thousands of years prior and were not bound by these absolute rules.

Rules? Who said anything about rules?

As far as I know, we're merely discussing personal preference, nothing more, nothing less.

Rules on Sex...hahaha, doesn't it have a "nice" ring to it? lol

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by Arvestaked Sounds good to me.

It's really beyond me why you haven't killed yourself yet, glir.

P.S. Yes kez sirumen :D

[Artsakhtsi]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sev21 Well...

A virgin for commitment...
A non-virgin for fun...

Pretty much it... so typical

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by Tramanian It's really beyond me why you haven't killed yourself yet, glir.

P.S. Yes kez sirumen :D

I haven't killed myself yet because I still haven't seen you die a horrible death, you disgusting, useless, stupid prick.

[violette829]

Originally posted by Arvestaked I haven't killed myself yet because I still haven't seen you die a horrible death, you disgusting, useless, stupid prick.


I think u 2 should have sex and make up!

[violette829]

Friends, Romans, Armenians, Greeks, Russians!

I have an announcement.....this will revolutionize the era of sex.
Here's the GOLDEN RULE when it comes to what I would like to refer to as the "Virgin/Non-Virgin Conflict of 2003"


If u only want to marry a virgin.....then U BETTER BE ONE URSELF!

Doesn't anyone else see the hypocracy? C'mon Armo guys...I know ur smarter than that! U go xxxx 1000 girls from Glendale, about 2000 from Hollywood, 3 from Panorama City, about 12 from La Crascenta, 19 from Canoga Park, 200 from San Diego....then u say, "How could I live with myself knowing that there was another man's xxxx inside my wife's xxxxx"

As the hilarious Dane Cook would say...."Um Hellloooooooooooo"

Get a clue! No glove no love baby!Bring on the chains!!!!!


Sincerely,
Vi:eek: lette

[dstyle]

violette i used to think like that. but then i grew older, ya it does make a difference.

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by violette829 Friends, Romans, Armenians, Greeks, Russians!

I have an announcement.....this will revolutionize the era of sex.
Here's the GOLDEN RULE when it comes to what I would like to refer to as the "Virgin/Non-Virgin Conflict of 2003"


If u only want to marry a virgin.....then U BETTER BE ONE URSELF!

Doesn't anyone else see the hypocracy? C'mon Armo guys...I know ur smarter than that! U go xxxx 1000 girls from Glendale, about 2000 from Hollywood, 3 from Panorama City, about 12 from La Crascenta, 19 from Canoga Park, 200 from San Diego....then u say, "How could I live with myself knowing that there was another man's xxxx inside my wife's xxxxx"

As the hilarious Dane Cook would say...."Um Hellloooooooooooo"

Get a clue! No glove no love baby!Bring on the chains!!!!!


Sincerely,
Vi:eek: lette



:D :D :D

[violette829]

Originally posted by dstyle violette i used to think like that. but then i grew older, ya it does make a difference.

If u are somehow implying my age has something to do with it..then I say to u, FUIIII...I spit on zee ground u vok on....No seriously though, age has nothing to do with it. It makes a difference how?

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by violette829 I think u 2 should have sex and make up!

I think people still think I'm female.

[dstyle]

Originally posted by violette829 If u are somehow implying my age has something to do with it..then I say to u, FUIIII...I spit on zee ground u vok on....No seriously though, age has nothing to do with it. It makes a difference how?

by the age thing, i meant my age, and how i have grown wiser with it. lol. nothing on u. i used 2 think virgin thingy problem. :eek:

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by violette829
Doesn't anyone else see the hypocracy? C'mon Armo guys...I know ur smarter than that! U go xxxx 1000 girls from Glendale, about 2000 from Hollywood, 3 from Panorama City, about 12 from La Crascenta, 19 from Canoga Park, 200 from San Diego....then u say, "How could I live with myself knowing that there was another man's xxxx inside my wife's xxxxx"



Ok, WTF? Where in the hell are these 1000 girls from Glendale, 2000 from hollywood, 3 from panorama city, etc? Two years I spend in LA and not *1* Armenian girl sleeps with me....was I hanging out with *all* the wrong ones?

I swear, you're pointing these girls out to me when I get back to Hollywood!:)

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by Arvestaked I haven't killed myself yet because I still haven't seen you die a horrible death, you disgusting, useless, stupid prick.


Yeah, by the way, it would be marvelous if you'd pick up my bimmer today, thanks.

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by Arvestaked I think people still think I'm female.


Maybe you should choose a different avatar, you stupid bastard.

Here's a good one for you that better fits your personallity:
http://tinyurl.com/3f4td

[violette829]

Originally posted by Tramanian Ok, WTF? Where in the hell are these 1000 girls from Glendale, 2000 from hollywood, 3 from panorama city, etc? Two years I spend in LA and not *1* Armenian girl sleeps with me....was I hanging out with *all* the wrong ones?

I swear, you're pointing these girls out to me when I get back to Hollywood!:)

Unless u live under a rock..then u will be able to find urself an armenian chick to bang. I mean cmon, do u go to ASA parties? That's the perfect place right there. I've seen plenty of girls willing to do anything after a shot of tequila..U know how armo girls LOSE IT? LMAO funniest thing in the world..When u come here, we can go and I'll show u the "hot spots" for the xxxxs!

[dstyle]

Originally posted by violette829 Unless u live under a rock..then u will be able to find urself an armenian chick to bang. I mean cmon, do u go to ASA parties? That's the perfect place right there. I've seen plenty of girls willing to do anything after a shot of tequila..U know how armo girls LOSE IT? LMAO funniest thing in the world..When u come here, we can go and I'll show u the "hot spots" for the xxxxs!

ummm can i know lol :D :D :D

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by violette829 Unless u live under a rock..then u will be able to find urself an armenian chick to bang. I mean cmon, do u go to ASA parties? That's the perfect place right there. I've seen plenty of girls willing to do anything after a shot of tequila..U know how armo girls LOSE IT? LMAO funniest thing in the world..When u come here, we can go and I'll show u the "hot spots" for the xxxxs!


Violette, I'm seriously going to hold you to that. But the way you say it makes me feel so dirty. I don't want to just "bang an armenian girl," I want to actually date an Armenian girl who isn't so sexually repressed.

Maybe it just works in extremes: either totally sexually repressed or total xxxxs, I don't want the former or the latter!

[violette829]

Originally posted by Tramanian Violette, I'm seriously going to hold you to that. But the way you say it makes me feel so dirty. I don't want to just "bang an armenian girl," I want to actually date an Armenian girl who isn't so sexually repressed.

Maybe it just works in extremes: either totally sexually repressed or total xxxxs, I don't want the former or the latter!


You, my friend, have just figured out what Armenian guys have been trying to figure out their whole lives...Armenians are very EXTREME about everything. U don't want a xxxx, which is GREAT, and I'm proud of u...at the same time, u don't want a prude biatch who's gonna give u blue balls every time u go see her.....THIS IS IT! Now, u have to find the middle ground..If ur looking for that girl, then I'll help u, but it's a long tough journey ahead of us..we need some strength....:) U let me know, and I'll find the perfect one for u! Why u ask? Because this is the first time that a guy actually GOT IT! Wow, that's beautiful....I think a tear just formed......drip drip...yup

[ckBejug]

Originally posted by Tramanian Violette, I'm seriously going to hold you to that. But the way you say it makes me feel so dirty. I don't want to just "bang an armenian girl," I want to actually date an Armenian girl who isn't so sexually repressed.

Maybe it just works in extremes: either totally sexually repressed or total xxxxs, I don't want the former or the latter!

If you've only come across those two types of Armenian girls (or any girl, not just armenian....), I think you've been shopping in the wrong stores. Sure there are plenty of 'extreme' girls out there: xxxxty girls, xxxxty liars who pretend their angels, or uber angelic girls, but there are ALSO some armenian grils (ahem!) who like to take the sexual stuff as it comes, not immediately, but in a relationship with a guy context, which really makes it all the better I think since you end up with someone who you know isn't thinking about someone else when they sleep with you (do people really do this? :) ), because they like you and want you etc etc. As violette said there are some of us who stand on the MIDDLE GROUND. Just because I wont sleep with a guy just because he has a xxxx and the ability to grunt more than monosyllabic words doesn't mean I'm a prude, it means whoever I DO choose to sleep with is a lucky guy indeed :D ;) Some of us aren't so sexually repressed and are quite openminded about such things. You don't have to have a track record for sleeping with guys to be able to enjoy the whole sex thing with someone you're with. That's what I think.

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by Tramanian Maybe you should choose a different avatar, you stupid bastard.

Here's a good one for you that better fits your personallity:
http://tinyurl.com/3f4td


I hope your car is safe at the mechanic for the next few months, you degenerate scrotum.

[ckBejug]

Originally posted by violette829 Arvestaked and Tramanian I think u 2 should have sex and make up!

I know you're both male, but I second what violette said.

[Arvestaked]

"Here's my messge. I'm going to come over to your house with a big knife. And I'm going to kill mommy and daddy. Then I'm going to tear their skin off and make a funny hat. Then I'm going to take out my huge dingdong and stick it in your beeeeeeeeeep."

[violette829]

As Anonymouse would say....WTF is that? LOOOOOLL OmG LOL

Hey Arvestaked...I'm scared of u, u sound like the guy from Texas Chainsaw Massacre....:eek: :eek:

Ck Jan, Honey I know exactly what ur talking about. But, the funny thing is, men find us intimidating because we have the brains, looks, and sexual nature....Maybe we should get together baby?;) Yummy


PS That was a lesbian joke...i know i'm gonna get alot of criticism about that..but what can I say, I LOVE ATTENTION!!!!!

[Emil]

Arvestaked, you use such eloquent words in all your posts. :rolleyes:

[Arvestaked]

I am known throughout many lands for my articulate diction. But I cannot, and did not really, take credit for that last one.

[loseyourname]

Is this what happens any time someone tries to discuss sex around here? Or is this just what happens anytime someone tries to discuss anything around here? This is like a group of seventy year-old chess-playing virgins who hang out in parks with canes locked into a jury deliberation room, asked to come up with a reason why they should ever be allowed out. Any of you ever read or seen the play "No Exit?" It will shed illumination upon this hilarious state of affairs.

Keep up the entertainment . . .

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by loseyourname Is this what happens any time someone tries to discuss sex around here? Or is this just what happens anytime someone tries to discuss anything around here? This is like a group of seventy year-old chess-playing virgins who hang out in parks with canes locked into a jury deliberation room, asked to come up with a reason why they should ever be allowed out. Any of you ever read or seen the play "No Exit?" It will shed illumination upon this hilarious state of affairs.

Keep up the entertainment . . .

Yes. Read it. Irrelevant really. You cannot throw that title around anytime people argue. The fact is, we are all here voluntarily for just that purpose: entertainment. What do you mean by "this"?

[loseyourname]

What might you say is "relevant?" Am I being pulled into an argument here too? Did I hurt your feelings? You seem to think I was complaining. If I had a complaint, I would likely leave.

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by loseyourname What might you say is "relevant?" Am I being pulled into an argument here too? Did I hurt your feelings? You seem to think I was complaining. If I had a complaint, I would likely leave.

I am not pulling and I am not upset in any way. I am just responding. No more. I did not say you were complaining, but you cannot expect to state an opinion about the conduct of the members as a whole without inciting a response. And of course, you are then accepting that the given response may not be in agreement.

What I was referring to when I mentioned relevancy was the plays connection to how people conduct themselves here.

[loseyourname]

I am glad to hear that. I apologize if you felt I was making an unwarranted, blanket statement. It does not seem you have been quite as serious with your other posts as you have been with me. You amaze me, by the way - 196 posts in half a month. You'll give yourself carpal tunnel in no time.

[loseyourname]

P.S. The whole point of posting is to get a response. Thank you for responding.

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by loseyourname I am glad to hear that. I apologize if you felt I was making an unwarranted, blanket statement. It does not seem you have been quite as serious with your other posts as you have been with me. You amaze me, by the way - 196 posts in half a month. You'll give yourself carpal tunnel in no time.

Well, we are here for entertainment. I do not want to be serious all the time and I doubt anyone else does either. Plus some topics (and some people) do not deserve to be take seriously. I have a salt shaker by my computer.

I work 8 hours a day and I spend that much time in denial about having to work. My job requires typing anyway. I wish I amazed you for a better reason than that. I think I may never post again.

[ckBejug]

Originally posted by loseyourname Is this what happens any time someone tries to discuss sex around here? Or is this just what happens anytime someone tries to discuss anything around here? This is like a group of seventy year-old chess-playing virgins who hang out in parks with canes locked into a jury deliberation room, asked to come up with a reason why they should ever be allowed out. Any of you ever read or seen the play "No Exit?" It will shed illumination upon this hilarious state of affairs.

Keep up the entertainment . . .

What are you talking about?? Maybe you should be more clear about what is so funny, I'd like to laugh about it too....


and you forgot to introduce yourself....

[whitelotus]

armenian girls arent just ' xxxxty ' or ' innocent / no experiance / no sex no sex !!! omg its so dirty eww , i dont do that sorry...' type of girls, there are plenty in the middle, you just have to look very hard, open thy eyes kind sirs !


Stereotypes and generalizations drive me nuts, snap out of it bastards ! :D

[sSsflamesSs]

Originally posted by whitelotus armenian girls arent just ' xxxxty ' or ' innocent / no experiance / no sex no sex !!! omg its so dirty eww , i dont do that sorry...' type of girls, there are plenty in the middle, you just have to look very hard, open thy eyes kind sirs !


Stereotypes and generalizations drive me nuts, snap out of it bastards ! :D

YAY FOR THE RABIZ ROBOT!

[whitelotus]

bow down to the rabiz robot!

my rabiz robot owns all your souls ! *nervous giggle*

:D

[violette829]

Like it or not, there are going to be times when u will be compared and generalized.. How else do we analyze different groups of people? Stats tell us that we need to find a somewhat representative group to play the role of the population as a whole. Basically, this goes on in life.

I'm sorry if I offended any armenian female(me being one myself) for I did not know that I was dealing with some people who are sensitive to certain subjects....Anywho..with that said..I would also like to point out that virginity is not exactly in your vagina..In my Psych 230 (Human Sexuality) class, we found out some misconceptions many people have regarding this subject. For example, take the worst case...if a girl gets raped, and it happens to be the first time that a penis enters her vagina...does this mean that she lost her virginity and a rapist is her first? Humm....now think realllly hard about this because u need to put urself in that girl's shoes...I know it's hard and most of us don't want to..but try........

NO SHE IS STILL A VIRGIN. Whoever u give your heart to with the sex, that's ur first. I mean, I have books that discuss this. I know many of u don't agree with me, but it's true.

With life, comes awareness. We must go with the times and not let anything hold us back. This is exactly what's going to me the cause of our (armenian females) demise. If we allow for mentalities like this to influence the masses, then our children, our sons, will never learn.

How can u say that u really care about a woman, and that u want her to be the mother of ur children, and then turn around and say that just because she has embraced her sexuality that u don't love her anymore.....I dunno but this doesn't sound like unconditional love to meeee!

This is long enough...Til next time, TOOOOOOO DA LOOOOOOO



Vi:eek: lette

[whitelotus]

i agree with you violette , point well made.

its not the actual act of breaking the hymen, rather the mental state and the heart of someone .

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by ckBejug What are you talking about?? Maybe you should be more clear about what is so funny, I'd like to laugh about it too....


and you forgot to introduce yourself....

I'm just being a little kid, ck. It's fun to watch people argue. I'm not too sure what you want me to introduce.

[ckBejug]

Originally posted by loseyourname I'm just being a little kid, ck. It's fun to watch people argue. I'm not too sure what you want me to introduce.

I meant you came in here and talked up a storm and forgot to introduce yourself in the main forum newbies intoduce yourself sticky thread. Just a suggestion :D



p.s. I used that okizaki fragment joke at work. It was great. lol.

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by ckBejug I meant you came in here and talked up a storm and forgot to introduce yourself in the main forum newbies intoduce yourself sticky thread. Just a suggestion :D



p.s. I used that okizaki fragment joke at work. It was great. lol.

Thanks - thought it was pretty good myself when I came up with it. I guess I didn't really feel it was necessary to post to the intro thread since all that info's on my profile anyway.

[spectra]

Originally posted by Artsakhtsi Hi people!

I wonder if u already have discussed this topic! I'm realy curious what u people think about it, it's kind of popular subject here ....
For example arevamothyer e they ussualy do not accept such a thing, same with hayastantsi.... but parskahyer e .... are more openmined ( the ones i know).
So tell me, what do u think, and what does people around u think?!

Thanks 8)

http://www.cartoons4fun.com/cool/virginity.jpg

p.s. question to guys - which one do u prefer virgin or not ?

I think that virginity is a gift to the men you love. By losing your virginity shows how absent minded you were or are in you life. I personally prefere girls that are not absent minded. Therefore, I would like to give my advice to girls, please don't lose your virginity unless you really love the person and are willing to continue living with them. Guys usualy want to have intercourse in the begining, but then they kind of calm down. So if the guy begs you to have sex with them, please reject and continue having your relationship without sex for a while, then make a decision.
I don't think guys would need an advice on this one, but I think guys should calm down too and give the girl time to think.

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by spectra I think that virginity is a gift to the men you love. By losing your virginity shows how absent minded you were or are in you life. I personally prefere girls that are not absent minded. Therefore, I would like to give my advice to girls, please don't lose your virginity unless you really love the person and are willing to continue living with them. Guys usualy want to have intercourse in the begining, but then they kind of calm down. So if the guy begs you to have sex with them, please reject and continue having your relationship without sex for a while, then make a decision.
I don't think guys would need an advice on this one, but I think guys should calm down too and give the girl time to think.

So to be a non-vergin is equal to be an absent minded?! Did i understand you right?

That is the most absurd comparison i've ever heard.

I agree though with the part about gift.

thank you

[loseyourname]

Sex is whatever you make it. It can intensely loving, even spiritual with the right person under the right circumstances. Other times, it can be purely fun, an opportunity to show off particular talents or try new things. Sometimes it is nothing more than stress medication. I say just get the first time out of the way, and a virgin should never lose his/her virginity to another virgin. I lost mine to a relatively experienced girl (for a 17 year-old) who was very good in the bedroom, and I'm glad I did. When you make such a big deal out of it, you set yourself up for disappointment, and you forget that it's only one of thousands of times. Don't get me wrong - your first is very special, and you should choose the person wisely: someone who is loving, tender, and patient. It does not, however, need to be THE person for you.

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by loseyourname Don't get me wrong - your first is very special, and you should choose the person wisely: someone who is loving, tender, and patient. It does not, however, need to be THE person for you.


Exactly my point.

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by Artsakhtsi Exactly my point.

By the way, in response to your original question, I have no preference. Non-virgins are typically going to be more thrilling right away, but I don't mind waiting, and the enthusiasm of someone new to sex is infectious. Furthermore, it is really fun to watch a recently devirginized girl learn - the joy in her eyes is enough to make me cry inside. Ahhhh . . .

Well, I did it. I got to 100 posts by Christmas. Arvest, I think I may be close to your daily average now, but I'm probably not even in the same league as Mousy.

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by loseyourname By the way, in response to your original question, I have no preference. Non-virgins are typically going to be more thrilling right away, but I don't mind waiting, and the enthusiasm of someone new to sex is infectious. Furthermore, it is really fun to watch a recently devirginized girl learn - the joy in her eyes is enough to make me cry inside. Ahhhh . . .

Well, I did it. I got to 100 posts by Christmas. Arvest, I think I may be close to your daily average now, but I'm probably not even in the same league as Mousy.

To hell with preferences, it's gotta be a natural choice.
;)


This thing about posts, is it like a race or somth. :confused:

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by Artsakhtsi To hell with preferences, it's gotta be a natural choice.
;)


This thing about posts, is it like a race or somth. :confused:

I don't choose a woman based on the status of her hymen. I guess I was trying to say that there are more important things.

There is no race that I'm aware of, but I ragged on Arvest earlier about posting so much. Now I'm outpacing him, so he shouldn't feel so bad.

[spectra]

Originally posted by Artsakhtsi So to be a non-vergin is equal to be an absent minded?! Did i understand you right?

That is the most absurd comparison i've ever heard.

I agree though with the part about gift.

thank you

I just said my opinion about non-virgin girl is an absent-minded. Others, maybe majority of people, may prove me wrong but if you look closely to this issue you will also agree with me. Sex is a fun thing to do, but to get to that point is a little tough in normal people’s life. Unless you’re not Armenian and you don’t have feelings of being embarrassed in public for the steps that you are making. In normal Armenian families (Mostly Armenian families from Republic of Armenia) girls are very careful in marriage or sex issues. Since I’m from an Armenian family from Armenia I have very high respect towards girls who are more serious in their life and relationship with others.
Anyway, I know Armenians from Diaspora will bash me for this post… Please don’t take my post very personally; I am just saying my opinion.

[loseyourname]

I'm a native-born Californian and I take girls seriously based on who they are and the totality of their experiences and outlook, not on their sexual history. Furthermore, I do not equate waiting on something with taking it seriously.

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by spectra I just said my opinion about non-virgin girl is an absent-minded. Others, maybe majority of people, may prove me wrong but if you look closely to this issue you will also agree with me. Sex is a fun thing to do, but to get to that point is a little tough in normal people’s life. Unless you’re not Armenian and you don’t have feelings of being embarrassed in public for the steps that you are making. In normal Armenian families (Mostly Armenian families from Republic of Armenia) girls are very careful in marriage or sex issues. Since I’m from an Armenian family from Armenia I have very high respect towards girls who are more serious in their life and relationship with others.
Anyway, I know Armenians from Diaspora will bash me for this post… Please don’t take my post very personally; I am just saying my opinion.

I hear you.

I am also an armenian girl from a decent armenian family.I just think that we look at this aspect of live with so much negativity.Sex is not bad!As long as you know what you are doing and are aware of consecvences.That's it!
cheers

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by loseyourname I don't choose a woman based on the status of her hymen. I guess I was trying to say that there are more important things.

Halleluja

[spectra]

Originally posted by Artsakhtsi I hear you.

I am also an armenian girl from a decent armenian family.I just think that we look at this aspect of live with so much negativity.Sex is not bad!As long as you know what you are doing and are aware of consecvences.That's it!
cheers
I am not a psychologist to give an advice on this issue. But here what I’d think. Let say I love X girl so much that I am ready to do anything for her, and she is not a virgin. First, before I find out she is not a virgin I would know what kind of a person she is. So lets say we have been together for over a year, and it’s kind of a slow relationship, which I like the most… And I see she is a very kind person and then she tells me that she is not a virgin. Then I’d ask her, as a friend, about her past. I am sure she’d tell me she had met this person, they had sex, and then they didn’t understand each other. I’d ask myself a question, why didn’t they understand each other. Then I’d find out the answer by having little bit more relationship with her. Then I’d choose to take the serious step and marry her, and make a family. This rule doesn’t apply to American-Armenians*.

* Some may be exception.

[tortoise26]

grrrr.... this whole thing is getting irritating. I'm going to base my comments on this hypothesis: that marriage comes in at least the mid-twenties. Given that, I dont understand which guy thinks that it is normal for a girl who has lived a quarter of a decade or more to never have loved someone before them. Who the hell cares? Obviously, the relationship she had with the person before you didn't work out, so get over it. The only time that sexual history should be a problem is that if she has been promiscuous or irresponsible in her decisions. I mean, if she went home with many guys after clubs or something, thats a totally different story than if she had sex with a boyfriend in a long-term relationship or maybe she even thought she would marry. It all comes down to morality and the feelings/motivations behind the actions.

And all these things apply to guys too. Dont think youre the only ones that are picky about your mates sexual past. I personally would not want my guy to have hooked up with girls in Palm Springs over a Spring break vacation or something. I hope the sex he has had (if he has had sex) has been out of love and respect, not some booty call.

[patlajan]

Originally posted by tortoise26 grrrr.... this whole thing is getting irritating. I'm going to base my comments on this hypothesis: that marriage comes in at least the mid-twenties. Given that, I dont understand which guy thinks that it is normal for a girl who has lived a quarter of a decade or more to never have loved someone before them. Who the hell cares? Obviously, the relationship she had with the person before you didn't work out, so get over it. The only time that sexual history should be a problem is that if she has been promiscuous or irresponsible in her decisions. I mean, if she went home with many guys after clubs or something, thats a totally different story than if she had sex with a boyfriend in a long-term relationship or maybe she even thought she would marry. It all comes down to morality and the feelings/motivations behind the actions.

And all these things apply to guys too. Dont think youre the only ones that are picky about your mates sexual past. I personally would not want my guy to have hooked up with girls in Palm Springs over a Spring break vacation or something. I hope the sex he has had (if he has had sex) has been out of love and respect, not some booty call.

My thoughts exactly.

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by patlajan My thoughts exactly.

Same here. Thank you for saying that, Tortoise.

[spectra]

Originally posted by tortoise26 grrrr.... this whole thing is getting irritating. I'm going to base my comments on this hypothesis: that marriage comes in at least the mid-twenties. Given that, I dont understand which guy thinks that it is normal for a girl who has lived a quarter of a decade or more to never have loved someone before them. Who the hell cares? Obviously, the relationship she had with the person before you didn't work out, so get over it. The only time that sexual history should be a problem is that if she has been promiscuous or irresponsible in her decisions. I mean, if she went home with many guys after clubs or something, thats a totally different story than if she had sex with a boyfriend in a long-term relationship or maybe she even thought she would marry. It all comes down to morality and the feelings/motivations behind the actions.

And all these things apply to guys too. Dont think youre the only ones that are picky about your mates sexual past. I personally would not want my guy to have hooked up with girls in Palm Springs over a Spring break vacation or something. I hope the sex he has had (if he has had sex) has been out of love and respect, not some booty call.

1+2=3
2+1=3

I think we all came to an agreement that such topics should not be discussed, since it's something connected with persons privacy. I will stop responding to this thread :)

[Xpeed]

The problem is that females associate sex with love and men don’t sex is just for pleasure.

[Sirumemkez20]

In my oppnion you guys I am going to wait till marriage some of you might think it's prude and all, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing something like that untill I was married maybe because im shy and all...:)

[omniscient]

Originally posted by tortoise26 I personally would not want my guy to have hooked up with girls in Palm Springs over a Spring break vacation or something.

So I guess that means you need to turn lesbian. All of you are insane and some of you say the weirdest damn things about all this sex xxxx. Wow some people amaze me. Although I did agree with you on the most part tortoise on your first paragraph, the one where you say you don't want a guy if he has hooked up over spring break or anywhere else out for fun well that's impossible. And if some of the guys here tell you otherwise that is only because they honestly can't or don't know how to get girls in that way but if they were given the chance they would in a heartbeat.

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by omniscient And if some of the guys here tell you otherwise that is only because they honestly can't or don't know how to get girls in that way but if they were given the chance they would in a heartbeat.

Or they've never been to Palm Springs except to visit their grandparents. I guess for me, it's just a little hard to hook up with a person once without it happening again, at which point it is no longer quite so random. I don't party or go to clubs and bars much, so these are pretty much people I already knew.

[Nimrod]

Originally posted by Artsakhtsi Hi people!

I wonder if u already have discussed this topic! I'm realy curious what u people think about it, it's kind of popular subject here ....
For example arevamothyer e they ussualy do not accept such a thing, same with hayastantsi.... but parskahyer e .... are more openmined ( the ones i know).
So tell me, what do u think, and what does people around u think?!

Thanks 8)

http://www.cartoons4fun.com/cool/virginity.jpg

p.s. question to guys - which one do u prefer virgin or not ?


Actually, there is a lot more non-virgin "parskahye" females that have lost it to fellow Hispanics or Blacks in the area than anyone else. Therefore, "parskahyes" do not necessarily forbid it.

[Nimrod]

Originally posted by Sirumemkez20 In my oppnion you guys I am going to wait till marriage some of you might think it's prude and all, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing something like that untill I was married maybe because im shy and all...:)


Well yes it is a lot more safe and a lot more reliably comforting to do it that way. Most of the people who lustfully went around decoding it with "but I loved him at the time and I do not regret it" usually are qualified to be branded as mentally disabled nymphomaniacs.

[Nimrod]

Originally posted by Sirumemkez20 In my oppnion you guys I am going to wait till marriage some of you might think it's prude and all, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing something like that untill I was married maybe because im shy and all...:)


Well yes it is a lot more safe and a lot more reliably comforting to do it that way because you are at least pledging your commitment thus making it more important. Most of the people who lustfully went around decoding it with "but I loved him at the time and I do not regret it" usually are qualified to be branded as mentally disabled nymphomaniacs.

[felizitation]

I prefer non virgin (but of course, for the marriage we never know)

This question is just a social way to justify the choice one man has made concerning a woman.
"She can cook, she never speaks, she's virgin, etc.". This time is over though in our societies.
It should be also strongly related to religion, to avoid separating after mariage etc...

Actually my first (sexual) girlfriend was virgin, so was I. She had no experience, I had no experience. She was lying on the bed like a meat loaf, I was agitating on her top.
This lack of experience + the fair of hurting her made that we didn't do anything at all. Worse, we both completely get frustrated and we broke quickly.

I do not understand guys who want virgin. What are they proud of if they take the virginity of a girl ? Do they think they have teached something ? Do they feel stronger ? Do it flatter their virility ?

Personally speaking, I don't want to be a teacher. I'd prefer a girl who knows how to bring me pleasures, with fantasy and imagination.

So, take pleasures now. It will be better for the one you really love.

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by Nimrod Most of the people who lustfully went around decoding it with "but I loved him at the time and I do not regret it" usually are qualified to be branded as mentally disabled nymphomaniacs.

That's an awfully bold statement, my friend. Go pick up a copy of DSM-IV and look up Nymphomania. It will describe someone far different than a girl who remains monogamous at all times and only sleeps with men she is in love with, regardless of whether or not there exists any legal bond between them.

[tortoise26]

what is really hilarious to me is that most of these "virgin" girls that you guys are dreaming of marrying (and I assume "saving" yourselves for) have taken it up the ass so many times and given so many blow jobs/hand jobs all for the sake of maintaining their "virgin" titles for "nimrods" like you.

[loseyourname]

Beautifully put, tortoise. You get the forum subtlety award.

[felizitation]

Originally posted by tortoise26 what is really hilarious to me is that most of these "virgin" girls that you guys are dreaming of marrying (and I assume "saving" yourselves for) have taken it up the ass so many times and given so many blow jobs/hand jobs all for the sake of maintaining their "virgin" titles for "nimrods" like you.

HAHAHAHA, very shrewd

[armflower]

Sex before marrige? :confused: hmm...no...

I think that there has to be only a one man in the life of any armenian lady...and that man has to become her husband...i don't approve sex before marriage with different men..i think it's xxxutiun...it is so wonderfull to realize that you belong only to one man, that he is the first in your life and the last one...that you didn't sleep with a lot of men and then found someone and married...i guess it is disgusting when a girl not virgin before marriage...unless i consider you can have sex with your future husband before marriage, because u are absolutely sure that you will create the family together...and by the way...the woman's duty is to give birth to a child...she has to be healthy...but not every woman who had an intim life is soo healthy...

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by armflower Sex before marrige? :confused: hmm...no...

I think that there has to be only a one man in the life of any armenian lady...and that man has to become her husband...i don't approve sex before marriage with different men..i think it's xxxutiun...it is so wonderfull to realize that you belong only to one man, that he is the first in your life and the last one...that you didn't sleep with a lot of men and then found someone and married...i guess it is disgusting when a girl not virgin before marriage...unless i consider you can have sex with your future husband before marriage, because u are absolutely sure that you will create the family together...and by the way...the woman's duty is to give birth to a child...she has to be healthy...but not every woman who had an intim life is soo healthy...


No offence, but,that is the most lame answer i've ever seen. I mean, disgusting ?
hahaha

[Emil]

Originally posted by armflower Sex before marrige? :confused: hmm...no...

I think that there has to be only a one man in the life of any armenian lady...and that man has to become her husband...i don't approve sex before marriage with different men..i think it's xxxutiun...it is so wonderfull to realize that you belong only to one man, that he is the first in your life and the last one...that you didn't sleep with a lot of men and then found someone and married...i guess it is disgusting when a girl not virgin before marriage...unless i consider you can have sex with your future husband before marriage, because u are absolutely sure that you will create the family together...and by the way...the woman's duty is to give birth to a child...she has to be healthy...but not every woman who had an intim life is soo healthy...

Have you been living in a bubble all your life? :confused:

[fstkhnan]

Originally posted by Emil Have you been living in a bubble all your life? :confused:

lolllllllllllll
yup
she totally has been:D

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Emil Have you been living in a bubble all your life? :confused:

I refer the reader to my thread on the advantages of hairy arms and how they are imperative if one wants to feel the dynamics of a bubble. The hairy arms enable you to catch the bubble and feel its weight and form.

To add to this, I would say it must be one biiiiiiig bubble, you know like them giant ones those clowns blow up in a park? The ones big enough to house a toilet as you have a bowel movement, and do cartweels in?

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by fstkhnan lolllllllllllll
yup
she totally has been:D

Quiet you. If I were you I would get in that jeep and drive away.

[jahannam]

Originally posted by felizitation

Personally speaking, I don't want to be a teacher. I'd prefer a girl who knows how to bring me pleasures, with fantasy and imagination.

So, take pleasures now. It will be better for the one you really love.

and what exactly makes you think that virgins need to be taught, and that they don't know how to perform in bed???:rolleyes: that's a TERRIBLE assumption.
bringing pleasure is a part of someone's personality.
people don't LEARN to do it.
so when two people meet, they're either sexually compatible or they're not. if the girl doesn't have the attitude you want her to have in bed, chances are she'll never "learn" to be what you want her to be.
people's sexuality is born with them.
but anyway, take it from me. SPECIALLY in your case, I'm pretty sure you would want virgins, cuz they're a lot hornier lol and cuz they've kept it inside ALL that time.
just something to think about.:D

[jahannam]

Originally posted by Anonymouse Quiet you. If I were you I would get in that jeep and drive away.

hehe
that was me by the way
I accidently posted fstkh's username while she'd forgoteen to sign off:D

[PASAMONSTER]

Well know I know a lot of Armenian girls that don't have sex before marriage. Let m clarify that for you, LOL, they don't have vaginal intercourse. LOL

Ohhhhhh yeahhh I have come across my share of Armenian girls that are "virgins", you just need to check the size of their backdoor and their tonsils. LOL

[felizitation]

Originally posted by jahannam and what exactly makes you think that virgins need to be taught, and that they don't know how to perform in bed???:rolleyes: that's a TERRIBLE assumption.
bringing pleasure is a part of someone's personality.
people don't LEARN to do it.
so when two people meet, they're either sexually compatible or they're not. if the girl doesn't have the attitude you want her to have in bed, chances are she'll never "learn" to be what you want her to be.
people's sexuality is born with them.
but anyway, take it from me. SPECIALLY in your case, I'm pretty sure you would want virgins, cuz they're a lot hornier lol and cuz they've kept it inside ALL that time.
just something to think about.:D

It's not the idea you expressed at all. By "teaching", i wasn't talking about sexual performances, but about owing something to someone.
Listen, what I mean is simple: virginity is gaining so much ground, grows so much in significance, that the virgin woman consider it as a symbol or a gift. But this is not.
By offering this gift, women considering the virginity as such, are transfering a responsability to the man taking it. The transfer is not free at all: the man should be up to it, and agrees, a mutual dependance, since this gift happens once in a lifetime.

Hence, I think that implicitely, a link of strenght is created: the man take something to the woman, the woman agrees with that. The man takes, the woman gives. The man gains something, the woman looses.

Thus, the look the woman would have, concerning this man, is like the embodiement of a symbol. Loosing her virginity would be like moving from the symbol of purity to a symbol of confidence and dependance. I alluded to a teacher because of the knowledge: the teacher represents the knowledge, and is bound to the pupil by a duty or responsibility, since the pupil expect something from the teacher.

So, what i was saying is that I refuse this symbolism and especially this link of strenght. I would consider my companion as being an entity equal to me (yes yes anon, no one is equal). A woman who have kept her virginity necessarly had symbolised it as I mentionned.

Now I agree with you that sexual pleasure is not only a matter of experience, but also a matter of involvement and feelings, which bring much more delight than just physical performances.

But I think we are not speaking in the same wavelenght, are we ?

[sleuth]

In my point of view if too ppl connected to each other emotionally ,mentaly,spiritually so there is no point to avoid to be connected fisically as well...because if you connected with all of your emotions and you avoid conntact to him fisically then you abviously follow your mind but not your heart and feelings...and mind is crap ,it has nothing to do with your feelings or emotions,,,i prefer to follow my intuition, emotions and feelings.,because thats who i am .....GUYS don't get me wrong i m not talking about girls who sleep around for fun or just to get xxxxed.... sure thing they know they are dirty and the realization that what they do is WRONG they bury the truth...simple as that..but if you have someone in your( life which is normal),share the moments emotionally and fisically then nothing iswrong with that, and there is nothing to hid...

judge me!!! :PPP I am not virgin

[PASAMONSTER]

no ones gonna judge you!!!

If you haven't noticed you're on my good list and when you're on my list sweet thing no one will dare critisize you or judge you.

ehhhh thats what i get for being known as the monster. Eternally scaring people away, if this keeps up i'm gonna be left all alone. BOOOO HOOOO HOOOO. LOLLLL

[sleuth]

thanks passa but even if i will be judged i know i m clean..thats whta matters to me:)

[PASAMONSTER]

and I have not the slightest doubt in that

No pun intended

[Nimrod]

Originally posted by Anonymouse I would prefer a virgin, but then again in this day and age it's fallacy.

These days everyone sleeps around whether out of love or soulless sex, it doesn't matter, and they turn around and lie to their new boyfriends that they are 'virgins'. It's all too common. Some girls are 'born again virgins' and some even have sex, yet in their sick demented mind some how convince themselves that they are still virgins and tell their next boyfriend that they are virgins. After all the lack of virgins these days goes hand in hand with the high divorce rate, and reflects the overall promiscious cultural lifestyle espoused by Hollywood movies, music and trendy pop culture.

So I don't care anymore I just wanna xxxx.

Right. Now a days you are lucky if your girl is even a girl. However, what really just pours salt to the wounds is when she ACTS like a virgin when it comes to marriage. But prior to thinking about settling down, she was young dumb and full of cum, and that is not really a good sign of a partner anyone would want for commitment either.

[Nimrod]

The rest of you women who are acting haughty about spreading their mind open as opposed to their legs: no respectable man wants a girl who has been corked with someone else's cum. I mean the only exception is if she was raped or her boyfriend or husband died.

[felizitation]

Originally posted by Nimrod The rest of you women who are acting haughty about spreading their mind open as opposed to their legs: no respectable man wants a girl who has been corked with someone else's cum. I mean the only exception is if she was raped or her boyfriend or husband died.
So, you'll never do it with your mother ?

[PASAMONSTER]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhh mother insult......


frenchie one thing you have to realize here in america we like our mothers specially the armenians, insult the everything and anything, exept for Mother.

[felizitation]

Originally posted by PASAMONSTER ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhh mother insult......


frenchie one thing you have to realize here in america we like our mothers specially the armenians, insult the everything and anything, exept for Mother.

Yep, I feel like ashamed of that. But his answer pisses me off.

Without any insulting, you may say many things that apply also to your parents. So think twice before saying such a thing. There is 70% chances his/my mother had an adventure before getting married.
Would my mother be the xxxxx he is speaking about if she had some lover before my father ?
I don't think so, what he is saying is simply stupid and insulting for all mothers and for all women and all potential mother

Now i feel sorry for the insult.

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by Nimrod The rest of you women who are acting haughty about spreading their mind open as opposed to their legs: no respectable man wants a girl who has been corked with someone else's cum. I mean the only exception is if she was raped or her boyfriend or husband died.

No self-assured man gives a xxxx whether or not you respect them; nor does any self-assured woman. But don't mind me. Keep strong, young Anakin, and don't give in to the dark side.

[Anonymouse]

Why is it that felizitation and PASAMONSTER have very little difference aside from the French babbling?

[felizitation]

Originally posted by Anonymouse Why is it that felizitation and PASAMONSTER have very little difference aside from the French babbling?

You mean, more than a scratched LP and you ?

[spiral]

people, SHUT UP already!!!

I can't believe this thread has dragged on as much as it did.

who gives a horses ass about sex before marriage.

there is no right or wrong.

Everyone does as they feel fit for themselves.

Get over it!

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by spiral who gives a horses ass about sex before marriage.

Seems like slimrod gives much more than a horses ass.

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by spiral people, SHUT UP already!!!

I can't believe this thread has dragged on as much as it did.

who gives a horses ass about sex before marriage.

there is no right or wrong.

Everyone does as they feel fit for themselves.

Get over it!


Well, i was interested about what ppl think is "right" or "wrong".

So chill ;)

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by felizitation

I don't think so, what he is saying is simply stupid and insulting for all mothers and for all women and all potential mother



i'm glad i was not the only one who noticed that.... that guy(Nimrod) is unbelivible!

[spiral]

Well, i was interested about what ppl think is "right" or "wrong".

So chill .

I just said that cuz everyone was arguing about the issue.

so you chill. eeyaaa .lol

:D

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by spiral I just said that cuz everyone was arguing about the issue.

so you chill. eeyaaa .lol

:D

Discussing, not arguing.
:cool:

[Anonymouse]

This thread has lost its potency. I move for a motion to reduce the post count of any and all who participate in this thread after THIS post.

[spiral]

interesting...

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by Anonymouse This thread has lost its potency. I move for a motion to reduce the post count of any and all who participate in this thread after THIS post.

The forum nazi strikes again. We're on our knees, Mousy. Tell us what you want from us next.

[felizitation]

Maybe (i mean, i don't know exactly, but i'm emitting some conjectures) he wants us to stop replying to this thread...

Am I wrong ?

[felizitation]

Or am I right ?

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by felizitation Maybe (i mean, i don't know exactly, but i'm emitting some conjectures) he wants us to stop replying to this thread...

Am I wrong ?

You're not complying, you bastard. Aww xxxx, neither am I. Where's our thorazine? Hook up the electrodes again.

[felizitation]

Originally posted by loseyourname You're not complying, you bastard. Aww xxxx, neither am I. Where's our thorazine? Hook up the electrodes again.

Raus !!! Hau ab, aschloch !
Herr Anonymouse, wir können nicht immer machen, was Sie wünschen.

[felizitation]

Sorry, I thought talking to him in german would have sollicitated some affection for both of us...

[SLOWJAMZ22]

ara amot chunek esentz hartzumek ek talis tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[PASAMONSTER]

thats right slowjamz

xxxx like this should be kept on the down low LOL

PM me!

[SLOWJAMZ22]

Originally posted by PASAMONSTER thats right slowjamz

xxxx like this should be kept on the down low LOL

PM me!

finally some1 who agress with me, probably b/c you have morals and respect that you learned because your hayastansi :)

[tortoise26]

hey buddy, if you yourself posessed the aforementioned respect, you wouldnt say crap like that. last time i checked my local armenian felonies list many more names ended in -yan. that must be a product of the morals you speak of. don't go around acting like certain people are better than others because youre going to irritate the non -"superior" group.

[patlajan]

Originally posted by tortoise26 hey buddy, if you yourself posessed the aforementioned respect, you wouldnt say crap like that. last time i checked my local armenian felonies list many more names ended in -yan. that must be a product of the morals you speak of. don't go around acting like certain people are better than others because youre going to irritate the non -"superior" group.

The newbie makes a good point.

[jahannam]

Emil
I urge you to close this place!

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by jahannam Emil
I urge you to close this place!

The panther makes a good point.

[SLOWJAMZ22]

Originally posted by tortoise26 hey buddy, if you yourself posessed the aforementioned respect, you wouldnt say crap like that. last time i checked my local armenian felonies list many more names ended in -yan. that must be a product of the morals you speak of. don't go around acting like certain people are better than others because youre going to irritate the non -"superior" group.

ara sikT*** lol i wasnt talking to u so shut up alright and that was an inside joke thats right hayastansi pride baby hayastansi

[violette829]

OH ALL OF U CAN xxxxIN SUCK IT<!~not reffering to me, cuz I don't have a penis...but FIND SOMEONE AND SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate this hayastansi beirutsi bullxxxx. Can't we find something ELSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE to talk about? I am so sick and tired of u people. I can't stand it anymore. I wanna come to each of ur houses, spray the outside with a lethal poison, come inside, grab ur parents, SLIT THEIR THROATS....then come into ur bedrooms, and just beat u senseless with a stick! Then, i'll start sticking pins in ur skin. Thennn, i'll poke ur eyeballs out. Then, i'll grab ur pet, fry it up...and feed it to u. STUPID SONNAMAxxxxxES! <!~Bernie Mac.

Let's allll get over it. No matter where u go, what u say or do...U ARE ARMENIANSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!



PS: To the idiot who thinks that all people with last names ending in YAN are hayastansi.......THINK AGAIN xxxx! Mine ends in YAN and Im Parskahye....and what????????????????????????


Perhaps it's because I'm PMSing...but u guys are ALL getting on my nerves! Someone please, pass me the shotgun.

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by SLOWJAMZ22 ara amot chunek esentz hartzumek ek talis tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Jesus, get over yourself man! It's 2004

[Artsakhtsi]

Originally posted by violette829 OH ALL OF U CAN xxxxIN SUCK IT<!~not reffering to me, cuz I don't have a penis...but FIND SOMEONE AND SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate this hayastansi beirutsi bullxxxx. Can't we find something ELSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE to talk about? I am so sick and tired of u people. I can't stand it anymore. I wanna come to each of ur houses, spray the outside with a lethal poison, come inside, grab ur parents, SLIT THEIR THROATS....then come into ur bedrooms, and just beat u senseless with a stick! Then, i'll start sticking pins in ur skin. Thennn, i'll poke ur eyeballs out. Then, i'll grab ur pet, fry it up...and feed it to u. STUPID SONNAMAxxxxxES! <!~Bernie Mac.

Let's allll get over it. No matter where u go, what u say or do...U ARE ARMENIANSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!


PS: To the idiot who thinks that all people with last names ending in YAN are hayastansi.......THINK AGAIN xxxx! Mine ends in YAN and Im Parskahye....and what????????????????????????


Perhaps it's because I'm PMSing...but u guys are ALL getting on my nerves! Someone please, pass me the shotgun.


Good point, i hate this too....... what a low level....damn it... Hayastantsi, halebtsi, artakhtsi, parskahay...... what difference does it make???? hayenkh, dat's it!


:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Anonymouse]

I'm sorry the rest of the armos don't share your utopian view.

[violette829]

:rolleyes:

[patlajan]

I'm not feeling the love nor the romance here.

[whitelotus]

um the ian or yan doesnt mean anything

people who came to america picked one or the other, they both sounded the f*cking same.

im a hayastancy and my last name ends with ian.

its the consonents that matter , thats why people made it either ian or yan, it matters what letter is after and between etc

but most armos didnt know that in the english language nor its rules, so they just picked one lol.

people always ask me if im parskahye because my last name is ian, its freaking stupid. Its some dumb tail people have heard and they think everyone who has that ending is a certain ' type of armo'

guess what, we are all armenians, f*ck what kind we are, there is no kind, we are one kind.

[felizitation]

Originally posted by whitelotus um the ian or yan doesnt mean anything

people who came to america picked one or the other, they both sounded the f*cking same.

im a hayastancy and my last name ends with ian.

its the consonents that matter , thats why people made it either ian or yan, it matters what letter is after and between etc

but most armos didnt know that in the english language nor its rules, so they just picked one lol.

people always ask me if im parskahye because my last name is ian, its freaking stupid. Its some dumb tail people have heard and they think everyone who has that ending is a certain ' type of armo'

guess what, we are all armenians, f*ck what kind we are, there is no kind, we are one kind.

I don't have any ian nor yan in my last name ... I'm so saaaaaaaaaaaaad .... :mad: But i get over it, i'm still living ...

[felizitation]

Originally posted by felizitation I don't have any ian nor yan in my last name ... I'm so saaaaaaaaaaaaad .... :mad: But i get over it, i'm still living ...

Actually, it's not exactly like I don't pay a xxxx about the ian, but it's pretty close ...

[whitelotus]

well whats your last name ?

did your mother or father marry someone french ? or are you a barskahye and your last name ends with a i ? like aghaxani , for example.

[felizitation]

Originally posted by whitelotus well whats your last name ?

did your mother or father marry someone french ? or are you a barskahye and your last name ends with a i ? like aghaxani , for example.

Respectively:
"Enficiaud", no, no and no.

[felizitation]

Originally posted by felizitation Respectively:
"Enficiaud", no, no and no.

So, I guess you want an explanation. Here it is:
In 74, the president of France was "Giscard d'Estain", an intelligent person with some weird rules. My parents get french nationality around 74/75, and the name was impossible to be pronouced for simple frenchies.

Actually, my father coming from turkey, it was enfiecioglü (or something like that) which also come from enfiedjian (which is also the name my family of USA has)

So, when they took the french nationality, 10 names were proposed, looking like the old ones and free of any sign betraying the origins.

Voilà, i still think i'm armenian.

[Anonymouse]

Felicity...may I recommend you dip your head in some toxic waste?

[felizitation]

Originally posted by Anonymouse Felicity...may I recommend you dip your head in some toxic waste?

Gernas deras, gernas ...

[PASAMONSTER]

eyyyyyyyyyy we all bleed the same blood yans and ians so whats the freakin diference.


and whats this bulxxxx of more felons with yan. what are you trying to say xxxxxxx.

never heard of antonian's

huh huh huh

romanians

bulgarians

checoslovakians

rusians

ethipians

canadians

so you tell me doesnt ians have more felons

LOLLLL

[tortoise26]

you guys need a reading lesson or what... if you actually put your one brain cell to use instead of getting all defensive, you would see that what I was saying was not to make comments that segregate cuz everyone can find something negative in someone else. so...my advice is to not start something in the first place cuz people WILL get riled up. thats called...are you ready for this one?...."reading between the lines".

and i'm not a xxxx, or an a**hole, and i dont have to resort to pulling all the four letter words out my hat just because i dont have anything intelligent to say and i need moronic "humor" to cover it up.

[jahannam]

Originally posted by tortoise26

and i'm not a xxxx, or an a**hole,

we know...
you're simply STUPID , yes you heard me right.
and since the first day you've been here, you haven't said a single interesting thing, nor have you offered anything new OR old to this forum.
your avatar is pink and ugly.
your username says it all. YOU're SLOW!!
if I were you I'd stick a gun just ANYWHERE and kill myself.
I can't believe you're doin fine LIVING. ever thought about the factthat God might've forgotten about you?? otherwise you would've been gone long ago.

[PASAMONSTER]

you spell out xxxx, but not xxxxxxx.

xxxxxxx is a part of the body, you could be scientific and say I am not an anus.

whats with the **, what you don't cuss or what?

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by jahannam we know...
you're simply STUPID , yes you heard me right.
and since the first day you've been here, you haven't said a single interesting thing, nor have you offered anything new OR old to this forum.
your avatar is pink and ugly.
your username says it all. YOU're SLOW!!
if I were you I'd stick a gun just ANYWHERE and kill myself.
I can't believe you're doin fine LIVING. ever thought about the factthat God might've forgotten about you?? otherwise you would've been gone long ago.

Not bad. You need to come to the flamer forum some time.

[sSsflamesSs]

Originally posted by PASAMONSTER you spell out xxxx, but not xxxxxxx.

xxxxxxx is a part of the body, you could be scientific and say I am not an anus.

whats with the **, what you don't cuss or what?

The gun-obsessed dude makes a valid point.

[tortoise26]

lol, hilarious.
anger management anyone? get a life whatever your name is "angelina" with a great username (hope you have fun there).

and if youre complaining about old and new things to add, i dare you to find ONE comment thats so ingenious and eye-opening. what i see is everyone expressing their opinions, hence "forum". if i was supposed to develop new ideologies/philosophies, id make sure id do it somewhere more profitable.

and i really wouldnt come to you as a judge of intelligence cuz all id get is the "ooh in your face" lame comebacks from junior high.

and no, pasa, i'm not a big fan of cussing; i dont have a problem with it if i'm pissed off, but comments in a forum really dont tick me off that much.

why do you guys have such anger issues... telling people to go kill themselves and that they shouldve been dead already.
relaaaaaaaaax

[sSsflamesSs]

Tortoise26, go kick yourself.

[Hogg]

Originally posted by violette829 Unless u live under a rock..then u will be able to find urself an armenian chick to bang. I mean cmon, do u go to ASA parties? That's the perfect place right there. I've seen plenty of girls willing to do anything after a shot of tequila..U know how armo girls LOSE IT? LMAO funniest thing in the world..When u come here, we can go and I'll show u the "hot spots" for the xxxxs!

I need a list.

[Artsakhtsi]

Emil, be my guest!
Close it , before it's 100 % screwed.... u ppl r unbelivible!

[fstkhnan]

Originally posted by tortoise26 lol, hilarious.
anger management anyone? get a life whatever your name is "angelina" with a great username (hope you have fun there).

and if youre complaining about old and new things to add, i dare you to find ONE comment thats so ingenious and eye-opening. what i see is everyone expressing their opinions, hence "forum". if i was supposed to develop new ideologies/philosophies, id make sure id do it somewhere more profitable.

and i really wouldnt come to you as a judge of intelligence cuz all id get is the "ooh in your face" lame comebacks from junior high.

and no, pasa, i'm not a big fan of cussing; i dont have a problem with it if i'm pissed off, but comments in a forum really dont tick me off that much.

why do you guys have such anger issues... telling people to go kill themselves and that they shouldve been dead already.
relaaaaaaaaax

who the hell ru anyways?