Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Azeris from Armenian?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Azeris from Armenian?

    This is an interesting section in wikipedia about the Azeri people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbai...eople#Genetics

    It's cited from a genetic study of Armenians and Azeris. It shows that Azeris in Azerbaijan proper are very very genetically similar to Armenians (check the cited pdf, it shows how similar).

    You should read the entire "Origins" section of the Azeri people. If anything, they are pretty descended from armenians or the ancient caucasian albanians - you're ancient cousins. Kind of like family - you know, like the Hamshens

    Azeris are a Turkified caucasian people.

    Maybe this could help with reinterpreting the hostility that there is towards them on these threads. After all, calling another people "baboons" that have almost or maybe the same genetic makeup as you doesn't exactly keep one that far from them in the tree of evolution.
    Last edited by SoyElTurco; 10-22-2008, 06:13 AM.

  • #2
    Re: Azeris from Armenian?

    I admit that the azeris probably have genetic ties wit Armenians, there ancestors lived in armenian regions and near by territories and there was probably intermarriages between our peoples when they were still christian, and probably some afterwards up untill the later 20th century.

    However I think this is like how Palestinian Arabs are genetically closer to Jėws than the Arabs living outside the Israel/Palestine region, or how the Turks from Turkey, have Mongolian ancestry, and even some Native American tribes had/have Mongolian ancestry, yet Turks, Mongolians, and Native Americans are not the same, ethnically or culturally
    Last edited by ara87; 10-21-2008, 06:40 PM.

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Azeris from Armenian?

      Its actually based on the Fact that the Turks were a nomadic people who were skileld at ruling vast areas from a single place. The "turkification" of the caucasus was not genetic, but cultural, religious and lingual. Turks and Azeri's are more related to Greeks and Armenians then they are to the real turks of central asia. They established a position of power and exerted it over the native populations, thus Caucasian albanians became Azeris and Anatolian greeks, armenians and Arabs became "Turks".

      As a turkish friend of mine told me once.... Its not that Turks "hate" armenians inherently, Its that they are insecure of their own identity. Deep down they know they are not real turks but they have been raised as such and so it is all they know.

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Azeris from Armenian?

        You know some relatives are better forgotten. There is an idea that some people are mud-people. If you associate with them they just suck you down into the mud with them.
        Maybe this was a problem for some of our long lost kin, but it is now too late for pretending we are brothers.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Azeris from Armenian?

          Originally posted by truAnatolian View Post
          Its actually based on the Fact that the Turks were a nomadic people who were skileld at ruling vast areas from a single place. The "turkification" of the caucasus was not genetic, but cultural, religious and lingual. Turks and Azeri's are more related to Greeks and Armenians then they are to the real turks of central asia. They established a position of power and exerted it over the native populations, thus Caucasian albanians became Azeris and Anatolian greeks, armenians and Arabs became "Turks".

          As a turkish friend of mine told me once.... Its not that Turks "hate" armenians inherently, Its that they are insecure of their own identity. Deep down they know they are not real turks but they have been raised as such and so it is all they know.
          from where you find scrap material to smelt it has an ignorance smell in it

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Azeris from Armenian?

            Im ignorant? Go learn something..... Turkish is an Altaic Language along with Mongolian, Japanese and Korean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

            Do you actually have no idea about how the Turks came to Anatolia and the caucasus? Genetically we are similiar to Turks and Azeri's because of what I described above. The establishment of "turks" in this region was not genetic but rather Cultural, Religious and Linguistic. Do most azeri's and turks look Mongolian to you?

            lol i can't beleive I have to argue this.

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Azeris from Armenian?

              Originally posted by truAnatolian View Post
              Im ignorant? Go learn something..... Turkish is an Altaic Language along with Mongolian, Japanese and Korean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

              Do you actually have no idea about how the Turks came to Anatolia and the caucasus? Genetically we are similiar to Turks and Azeri's because of what I described above. The establishment of "turks" in this region was not genetic but rather Cultural, Religious and Linguistic. Do most azeri's and turks look Mongolian to you?

              lol i can't believe I have to argue this.
              scrap is cheep so use it when you need it ,you are intending to make soap drama out of historic past ,bubble bath dont last forever

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Azeris from Armenian?

                Are Azeris native Albanian Caucasians???

                The following shows that most Albanian Caucasians were murdered by Azeri Turks and only a few remnants have remained. So much for the Azeri claims to be natives of Caucasia!!!!!

                "Also of interest is the fact that there are surviving remnants of Caucasian Albanias today, known as Udins. Their language is Northeast Caucasian, and so is related to Chechen and other ethnic languages of North Caucasus. Armenian is an Indo-European language. Georgian is a South Caucasian (Kartveli) language. There is also Northwest Caucasian language family. This demonstrates the fact that Caucasus is the most linguistically diverse area on earth while being roughly the size of UK."
                Persians and Hollywood
                http://oslonor.blogspot.com

                A Google Blog

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Azeris from Armenian?

                  The first time ever I agree with the olsoner character and Argentina don' waste your time on that sell out, he's person ready to sell everything so he can be friends with Turks and suck their xxxx.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: Azeris from Armenian?

                    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                    The first time ever I agree with the olsoner character and Argentina don' waste your time on that sell out, he's person ready to sell everything so he can be friends with Turks and suck their xxxx.
                    Your just jealous he doesn't want to suck yours (just kidding). But why are you guys mad at what he said? He is mainly right. Most of the Turkic peoples in Turkey and Azerbaijan are Turks, but through culture, language, etc. There's a reason they do not look as Asian as their eastern relatives across the Caspian.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X