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  • Azeris from Armenian?

    This is an interesting section in wikipedia about the Azeri people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbai...eople#Genetics

    It's cited from a genetic study of Armenians and Azeris. It shows that Azeris in Azerbaijan proper are very very genetically similar to Armenians (check the cited pdf, it shows how similar).

    You should read the entire "Origins" section of the Azeri people. If anything, they are pretty descended from armenians or the ancient caucasian albanians - you're ancient cousins. Kind of like family - you know, like the Hamshens

    Azeris are a Turkified caucasian people.

    Maybe this could help with reinterpreting the hostility that there is towards them on these threads. After all, calling another people "baboons" that have almost or maybe the same genetic makeup as you doesn't exactly keep one that far from them in the tree of evolution.
    Last edited by SoyElTurco; 10-22-2008, 06:13 AM.

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    Re: Azeris from Armenian?

    I admit that the azeris probably have genetic ties wit Armenians, there ancestors lived in armenian regions and near by territories and there was probably intermarriages between our peoples when they were still christian, and probably some afterwards up untill the later 20th century.

    However I think this is like how Palestinian Arabs are genetically closer to Jėws than the Arabs living outside the Israel/Palestine region, or how the Turks from Turkey, have Mongolian ancestry, and even some Native American tribes had/have Mongolian ancestry, yet Turks, Mongolians, and Native Americans are not the same, ethnically or culturally
    Last edited by ara87; 10-21-2008, 06:40 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Azeris from Armenian?

      Its actually based on the Fact that the Turks were a nomadic people who were skileld at ruling vast areas from a single place. The "turkification" of the caucasus was not genetic, but cultural, religious and lingual. Turks and Azeri's are more related to Greeks and Armenians then they are to the real turks of central asia. They established a position of power and exerted it over the native populations, thus Caucasian albanians became Azeris and Anatolian greeks, armenians and Arabs became "Turks".

      As a turkish friend of mine told me once.... Its not that Turks "hate" armenians inherently, Its that they are insecure of their own identity. Deep down they know they are not real turks but they have been raised as such and so it is all they know.

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      • #4
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        You know some relatives are better forgotten. There is an idea that some people are mud-people. If you associate with them they just suck you down into the mud with them.
        Maybe this was a problem for some of our long lost kin, but it is now too late for pretending we are brothers.

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        • #5
          Re: Azeris from Armenian?

          Originally posted by truAnatolian View Post
          Its actually based on the Fact that the Turks were a nomadic people who were skileld at ruling vast areas from a single place. The "turkification" of the caucasus was not genetic, but cultural, religious and lingual. Turks and Azeri's are more related to Greeks and Armenians then they are to the real turks of central asia. They established a position of power and exerted it over the native populations, thus Caucasian albanians became Azeris and Anatolian greeks, armenians and Arabs became "Turks".

          As a turkish friend of mine told me once.... Its not that Turks "hate" armenians inherently, Its that they are insecure of their own identity. Deep down they know they are not real turks but they have been raised as such and so it is all they know.
          from where you find scrap material to smelt it has an ignorance smell in it

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            Re: Azeris from Armenian?

            Im ignorant? Go learn something..... Turkish is an Altaic Language along with Mongolian, Japanese and Korean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

            Do you actually have no idea about how the Turks came to Anatolia and the caucasus? Genetically we are similiar to Turks and Azeri's because of what I described above. The establishment of "turks" in this region was not genetic but rather Cultural, Religious and Linguistic. Do most azeri's and turks look Mongolian to you?

            lol i can't beleive I have to argue this.

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            • #7
              Re: Azeris from Armenian?

              Originally posted by truAnatolian View Post
              Im ignorant? Go learn something..... Turkish is an Altaic Language along with Mongolian, Japanese and Korean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

              Do you actually have no idea about how the Turks came to Anatolia and the caucasus? Genetically we are similiar to Turks and Azeri's because of what I described above. The establishment of "turks" in this region was not genetic but rather Cultural, Religious and Linguistic. Do most azeri's and turks look Mongolian to you?

              lol i can't believe I have to argue this.
              scrap is cheep so use it when you need it ,you are intending to make soap drama out of historic past ,bubble bath dont last forever

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              • #8
                Re: Azeris from Armenian?

                Are Azeris native Albanian Caucasians???

                The following shows that most Albanian Caucasians were murdered by Azeri Turks and only a few remnants have remained. So much for the Azeri claims to be natives of Caucasia!!!!!

                "Also of interest is the fact that there are surviving remnants of Caucasian Albanias today, known as Udins. Their language is Northeast Caucasian, and so is related to Chechen and other ethnic languages of North Caucasus. Armenian is an Indo-European language. Georgian is a South Caucasian (Kartveli) language. There is also Northwest Caucasian language family. This demonstrates the fact that Caucasus is the most linguistically diverse area on earth while being roughly the size of UK."
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                • #9
                  Re: Azeris from Armenian?

                  The first time ever I agree with the olsoner character and Argentina don' waste your time on that sell out, he's person ready to sell everything so he can be friends with Turks and suck their xxxx.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Azeris from Armenian?

                    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                    The first time ever I agree with the olsoner character and Argentina don' waste your time on that sell out, he's person ready to sell everything so he can be friends with Turks and suck their xxxx.
                    Your just jealous he doesn't want to suck yours (just kidding). But why are you guys mad at what he said? He is mainly right. Most of the Turkic peoples in Turkey and Azerbaijan are Turks, but through culture, language, etc. There's a reason they do not look as Asian as their eastern relatives across the Caspian.

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