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    hi armenians!
    I am from TURKEY and I am a Turkish
    read ur history and learn true story
    and first look at Khojaly Massacre (hocalı katliamı) don't remember 25.02.1992


    As a bridge between Asia and Europe, with its straits connecting The Black Sea with the Mediterranean and its geopolitical situation at a point where the Central Asian, Caucasian and Middle Eastern natural energy sources intersect, Turkey draws the attention of the entire world.

    The Ottoman Empire in the past and Turkey at present has always been an arena for which intrigues were incessantly designed. The colonialist superpowers wishing to eradicate the Ottoman Empire from the world by dividing it did not fail to use in their schemes also the Armenians who coexisted in peace with the Turks for so many centuries.

    There are today just like in the past, several countries striving to secure themselves political and economic benefits at the expense of Armenian community. Monuments accusing Turks and Turkey of having committed genocide are being erected in some countries; decisions intending to recognise the so called genocide are brought into the parliamentary agenda in several countries and even voted for in some others. Issues that need to be left to historians are turned into means of self interest by the politicians.

    The Armenians who were ousted from one place to the other, pushed into wars, and treated as third rate citizens throughout the history by the Romans, Persians and Byzantines. After the advent of Turks into Anatolia, they benefited from the just, humane, tolerant and unifying traditions and beliefs of their new neighbours. The period that lasted until the end of the nineteenth century when the apogee of these developments and relations was attained, was the golden age of Armenians. In fact, the Armenians were by far the greatest beneficiaries of the opportunities offered by the Ottoman Empire to all industrious, capable, honest and straightforward citizens of the non-Moslem communities. Being exempted from the military service and to a large extent from taxation, they had the opportunity to excel themselves in trade, agriculture, craftsmanship and administration and therefore were rightly called the “loyal nation” because of their loyalty and ability to interact with the Ottomans. There were so many Armenians who spoke Turkish, who even conducted their rites in this language , who rose to topmost public service posts such as the Ministries and Under-Secretariats of State for the Public Works, Navy, Foreign Affairs, Finance, Treasury, Posts and Telegraph and Minting. There were some who even wrote books in Turkish and foreign languages on the Problems of the Ottoman Empire .

    With the start of the decline of the Ottoman Empire, the European powers began to intervene in its affairs and degeneration became evident in the peaceful Turkish-Armenian relations. Great effort was displayed by the instigators whom the Western powers planted into the Ottoman Empire under clerical guise, to create a schism between Turks and Armenians in the religious, cultural, commercial, political and social fields. Thus, bloody clashes arose, in which the blunt of pain was borne by the Turks, and thousands of Armenians and Turks lost their lives in the revolts that broke out in Eastern Anatolia and spread all the way to Istanbul.

    Though there were many Armenians fighting in the Ottoman armies against the enemy or serving in the rear ranks during the World War I, a considerable number had sided with the foes on the battlefronts and launched massacres against the population without distinction of women, children and the aged. Their toll was hundreds of thousands of Moslems and ruin in Eastern Anatolia.

    The measures adopted by the Ottoman Empire to stop this violence were presented to the rest of the world under a completely different light and the Armenians, misguided by the promises and instigation of the Western Powers started to undermine the country where they had led a privileged life more than a thousand years.

    The Hinchak, Tashnak, Toward Armenia, Young Armenians, Union and Salvation, Ramgavar, Paramilitaries, Black Cross societies and Hinchak Revolutionary Committee, which were established out of Anatolia, formed organisations urging the people for an armed revolt. These activities were the bloody uprisings that cost thousands of Turkish and Armenian lives.

    During World War I, the Ottoman Empire was fighting against Russian armies in Eastern Anatolia, where the Armenian revolt was at its peak; and also against Armenian forces which supported the Russians. On the other hand, behind the lines it had to continue to fight against Armenian guerrillas that were burning Turkish villages and towns and attacking military convoys and reinforcements. In spite of this violence, the Ottoman Empire tried to solve the Armenian problem for months by taking local measures. Meanwhile, an operation was made against the Armenian guerillas and 2345 rebels were arrested for high treason. When it became evident that the Armenian community was also in rebellion against the state, the Ottoman Empire proceeded with the last resort of replacing only those Armenians in the region who actively participated in the rebellion. With this measure, the Ottoman Empire also intended to save the lives of the Armenians who were living in a medium of civil war because Turks started to counter-attack the Armenians who had performed bloody atrocities against Turkish communities.

    Today, Armenia and some states using Armenians for their economic and political benefits have launched a massive propaganda campaign to present the replacement decision and the 24 April arrests as genocide to the world public opinion.

    At the end of the World War I, when the armies of Allied States occupied The Ottoman Empire and the British officials among them arrested 143 Ottoman political and military leaders and intellectuals for “having committed war crimes toward Armenians” and exiled them to Malta where a trial was launched. However, the massive scrutiny made on the Ottoman, British, American archives in order to find evidence to incriminate these 143 persons failed to produce even the least iota of proof against them. In the end, the detainees in Malta were released without trial and even any indictment in 1922.

    The United States archives contain an interesting document sent to Lord Curzon on 13 July 1921 by Mr. R.C. Craigie, the British Ambassador in Washington. The message was as follows: “I regret to state that there is nothing that may be used as evidence against the Turkish detainees in Malta. There are no events that may constitute adequate proofs. The said reports do not appear to contain even circumstantial evidence that could be useful to reinforce the information held by His Majesty’s Government against the Turks.”

    On 29 July 1921, the legal advisers in London decided that the intended indictments drawn up against the persons on the British Foreign Ministry’s list were semi-political in nature and therefore these individuals should be treated separately from the Turks detained as criminals of war.

    They also stated the following: “No statements were hitherto received from the witnesses to the effect that the indictments intended against the detainees are correct. Likewise it does not need to be restated that finding witnesses after so long a time is highly doubtful in a remote country like Armenia which is accessible only with great difficulties.” This statement was made also by none other than the legal advisers in London of His Majesty’s Government.

    Yet, the efforts to smear the image of Turks with genocide claims did not come to an end as the British press published certain documents attempting to prove the existence of a massacre claimed to have been perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire while efforts were being made to start a lawsuit in Malta. It was stated that the documents were found by the British occupation forces in Syria, led by General Allenby. The inquiries subsequently made by the British Foreign Office revealed, however, that these documents were fakes prepared by the Armenian Nationalist Delegation in Paris and distributed to the Allied representatives.

    The Armenian Diaspora, who left no stone unturned to keep the genocide claims on the agenda despite all these facts, resorted to terrorism in the end. The so-called Armenian issue, which started to attract the attention of the world and Turkish public opinion through the smearing campaign launched by the Armenians against Turkey after 1965, in the ‘70s turned into terrorist attacks directed against the Turkish representations abroad. In Santa Barbara on January 27, 1973, the first individual terrorist attack was launched by an aged Armenian named Gurgen (Karekin) Yanikian. He murdered Mehmet Baydur and Bahadir Demir, the Turkish Consul General and Vice Consul in Los Angeles, and these murders turned into an organised campaign after 1975. The attacks against Turkish embassies, officials and institutions abroad gradually intensified.

    A major increase in the attacks was noted after 1979 when an internal unease started in Turkey. The Armenian terrorists staged a total of 110 attacks at 38 cities of 21 countries. 39 of these acts were committed by small arms, 70 of them were realised by bombs and one was an outright occupation. 42 Turkish diplomats and 4 foreigners were killed and 15 Turks and 66 foreigners were wounded in these incidents.

    As these actions received a strong reaction from the world public opinion, the Armenian terrorist organisations changed their tactics in 1980 and began to co-operate with the PKK terrorist group which was pushed into the scene by the Eruh and ªemdinli attacks as the ASALA and Armenian operations were stopped. The documents and evidence from Beqaa and Zeli camps show that the PKK and ASALA militants were trained there together.

    The success achieved by the Turkish security forces made the Armenian terrorism pursue the so called genocide claims through the Armenian Diaspora and attempt to make the world believe in the existence of such an event by inducing several parliaments to adopt resolutions and laws which recognise it.

    The goal of these terrorists is to plant into minds of people the existence of a genocide, to force Turkey to recognise it, to receive indemnity from Turkey and, finally, to snatch from Turkey the land needed for realising the dream of Great Armenia

    u can look photos (Khojaly Massacre)
    link : http://cokaciz.azbuz.com/photoContes...00000000347014



    (please don't close this topic ) I want to know ur opinion how can u talk about the armenian genocide?
    Last edited by gizem77; 02-27-2009, 04:58 AM.

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    We Armenians have come from the farthest depths of history. We have battled the demons of the forgotten past. We have fought the wars that fate has placed before us. We have won every struggle to preserve our faith. Among the chaos of our great history, though our will has never broken and our spirit never faltered, our borders have constantly changed… What was, what is, and what shall be once more.
    The Kingdome of Ararat, the Empire of Tigran the great, the great provinces of the Byzantine Empires. Conquered by Turks in 1071AD reaching the heart of Europe, we lived under their oppressive rules until they began to crumble at the dawn of 20th century…...but an immense tragedy befell the people of Armenia which claimed the lives of 1.5 M. The Turks tried to erase 3000 years of Armenian heritage, they burned churches, literatures, towns, demolished ancient work of arts, and stole huge areas of land…and until today they still deny it. But the world knows, from France to Russia, from Austria to Canada, it is recognized. It is only a matter of time before justice is served. 40 of the 50 US states recognize this.


    Would you accept the facts? Lets allow the souls of the perished rest in peace, in the knowledge that they are not forgotten. As a spirit Armenia will never waver, as people we will never perish, we will uphold our sacred values, as we have done since the dawn of civilized life on earth.
    Last edited by Eddo211; 02-27-2009, 05:10 AM.
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      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
      We Armenians have come from the farthest depths of history. We have battled the demons of the forgotten past. We have fought the wars that fate has placed before us. We have won every struggle to preserve our faith. Among the chaos of our great history, though our will has never broken and our spirit never faltered, our borders have constantly changed… What was, what is, and what shall be once more. The Kingdome of Ararat, the Empire of Tigran the great, the great provinces of the Byzantine Empires. Conquered by Turks in 1071AD reaching the heart of Europe, we lived under their oppressive rules until they began to crumble at the dawn of 20th century…...but an immense tragedy befell the people of Armenia which claimed the lives of 1.5 M. The Turks tried to erase 3000 years of Armenian heritage, they burned churches, literatures, towns, demolished ancient work of arts, and stole huge areas of land…and until today they still deny it. But the world knows, from France to Russia, from Austria to Canada, it is recognized. It is only a matter of time before justice is served. 40 of the 50 US states recognize this.


      Would you accept the facts? Lets allow the souls of the perished rest in peace, in the knowledge that they are not forgotten. As a spirit Armenia will never waver, as people we will never perish, we will uphold our sacred values, as we have done since the dawn of civilized life on earth.
      Turkey has proposed opening up its archives and discussing jointly with international as well as Armenian historians the Armenian issue.

      Armenia has never come forth and agreed to Turkeys proposal of a joint Turkish-Armenian international study of the issues of Armenian Turks and their dispute with the Ottoman Turks.

      Everybody is of course entitled to their own opinions, however historians are the ones who possess the necessary qualifications to bring a definitive answer to this issue. MP's and Congressmen do not have the knowledge base or expertise necessary to be qualified judges.

      Why not have a joint panel of historians scientifically discuss analyze and come to a resolution on this issue.

      Would you accept the facts?would yu accept the Khojaly Massacre,Khojaly Genocide , Khojaly Tragedy ????..
      The official death toll provided by Azerbaijani authorities is 613 civilians, of them 106 women and 83 children by armenians would u accept this facts?
      Last edited by gizem77; 02-27-2009, 05:24 AM.

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        Originally posted by gizem77 View Post
        Turkey has proposed opening up its archives and discussing jointly with international as well as Armenian historians the Armenian issue.

        Armenia has never come forth and agreed to Turkeys proposal of a joint Turkish-Armenian international study of the issues of Armenian Turks and their dispute with the Ottoman Turks.

        Everybody is of course entitled to their own opinions, however historians are the ones who possess the necessary qualifications to bring a definitive answer to this issue. MP's and Congressmen do not have the knowledge base or expertise necessary to be qualified judges.

        Why not have a joint panel of historians scientifically discuss analyze and come to a resolution on this issue.

        Would you accept the facts?would yu accept the Khojaly Massacre,Khojaly Genocide , Khojaly Tragedy ????..
        The official death toll provided by Azerbaijani authorities is 613 civilians, of them 106 women and 83 children by armenians would u accept this facts?
        You can't discuss the truth. So there is no point to open up anything for anyone. And there is no such thing as the Khojali massacre, there was a nice report about that yesterday on the Armenian tv and they told the show with facts and evidence and footage from 1992 from Azeri tv. Proving that Armenian fighters were not in the fault there and every thing that happened was the fault of the Azeri soldiers.
        You should never argue with idiots because they will just drag you down to their level....then beat you with experience!!!!!!!

        "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Voltaire

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          Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
          You can't discuss the truth. So there is no point to open up anything for anyone. And there is no such thing as the Khojali massacre, there was a nice report about that yesterday on the Armenian tv and they told the show with facts and evidence and footage from 1992 from Azeri tv. Proving that Armenian fighters were not in the fault there and every thing that happened was the fault of the Azeri soldiers.
          Are u discuss the truth ? haha
          Are u sure there is no point to open up anything for anyone?
          u don't accept ur genocide at Azerbaycan ,do u?
          we are talking about a lot of people ,I hope u don't know ur history ,u can look this link and talk later
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_Massacre

          okay, u can show with facts and evidence
          but i should say this :''ur evidences are not fact''
          And i have evidences too ,they are not false like yours! (i can put this site)
          Last edited by gizem77; 02-27-2009, 06:06 AM.

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          • #6
            Re: the armenian issue

            Originally posted by gizem77 View Post
            Turkey has proposed opening up its archives and discussing jointly with international as well as Armenian historians the Armenian issue.

            Armenia has never come forth and agreed to Turkeys proposal of a joint Turkish-Armenian international study of the issues of Armenian Turks and their dispute with the Ottoman Turks.

            Everybody is of course entitled to their own opinions, however historians are the ones who possess the necessary qualifications to bring a definitive answer to this issue. MP's and Congressmen do not have the knowledge base or expertise necessary to be qualified judges.

            Why not have a joint panel of historians scientifically discuss analyze and come to a resolution on this issue.

            Would you accept the facts?would yu accept the Khojaly Massacre,Khojaly Genocide , Khojaly Tragedy ????..
            The official death toll provided by Azerbaijani authorities is 613 civilians, of them 106 women and 83 children by armenians would u accept this facts?
            The Turks have adopted the line of "leave Armenian history to the historians" because they are losing their propaganda battle. The issue of the Armenian Genocide is not a question of historical truth; that has been settled. It is rather an issue of morality and the acceptance of the truth.

            The Turkish archives have been closed so long that scholars have no idea of what is being purged. Furthermore, the work of the Genocide was done under the aegis of the Committee of Union and Progress, a shadow government similar to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and in particular by its Special Organization (Teskilat-i Mahsusa) under the notorious Dr. Behaettin Shakir who was sentenced to death in absentia by a Turkish court-martial following World War I. Will their records be opened?

            Why don’t you open the Kemel files to your public and try to restore Turkish honor (Do you know what that is Turk?) and free your people who live a life of lies.
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              Re: the armenian issue

              Originally posted by gizem77 View Post
              Are u discuss the truth ? haha
              Are u sure there is no point to open up anything for anyone?
              u don't accept ur genocide at Azerbaycan ,do u?
              we are talking about a lot of people ,I hope u don't know ur history ,u can look this link and talk later
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_Massacre

              okay, u can show with facts and evidence
              but i should say this :''ur evidences are not fact''
              And i have evidences too ,they are not false like yours! (i can put this site)
              Wow...Is wiki the only place you learn history. If it is go and read a couple of books. So my evidence are not facts than why should I even show it than. And please show us your evidence.

              And ps: there is a great thread about Khojaly of the forum search for it.
              You should never argue with idiots because they will just drag you down to their level....then beat you with experience!!!!!!!

              "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Voltaire

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              • #8
                Re: the armenian issue

                Originally posted by gizem77 View Post
                hi armenians!
                I am from TURKEY and I am a Turkish
                read ur history and learn true story
                and first look at Khojaly Massacre (hocalı katliamı) don't remember 25.02.1992


                As a bridge between Asia and Europe ........ blah blah blah .......
                I don't see anything about "Khojaly Massacre" in that bit of cut and paste taken straight from one of your official propaganda websites.

                (please don't close this topic ) I want to know ur opinion how can u talk about the armenian genocide?
                Close this topic and ban its initiator.
                Plenipotentiary meow!

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                • #9
                  Re: the armenian issue

                  Hey Bells, do you mind? I wanna talk to this Wolf.

                  Comon Turk, let's see what you got.
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                  • #10
                    Re: the armenian issue

                    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                    The Turks have adopted the line of "leave Armenian history to the historians" because they are losing their propaganda battle. The issue of the Armenian Genocide is not a question of historical truth; that has been settled. It is rather an issue of morality and the acceptance of the truth.

                    The Turkish archives have been closed so long that scholars have no idea of what is being purged. Furthermore, the work of the Genocide was done under the aegis of the Committee of Union and Progress, a shadow government similar to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and in particular by its Special Organization (Teskilat-i Mahsusa) under the notorious Dr. Behaettin Shakir who was sentenced to death in absentia by a Turkish court-martial following World War I. Will their records be opened?

                    Why don’t you open the Kemel files to your public and try to restore Turkish honor (Do you know what that is Turk?) and free your people who live a life of lies.
                    yes you are right, the Armenian Genocide is not a question ,it is lie
                    only armenians tell it and u can't prove this but we can prove ur genocide at Azerbeycan (meanwhile,do u accept it? )
                    The Turkish archives have not been closed,we have a lot of document
                    u can't know that
                    and what is kemel ? first learn it true
                    IMPORTANT QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
                    DID ARMENIAN CASUALTIES AMOUNT TO 1.5 MILLION?

                    Armenian propagandists claim that as many as 1,5 million Armenians died as the result of so-called "genocide". Like the rest of their claims, this also is imaginary, with the number claimed being increased over years. At first, immediately following the war the Armenians claimed that as many as 600,000 had been killed. Later they raised it to 800,000 and now they talk about 1,5 million and tomorrow they may talk even about three million. The 1918 edition of Encyclopedia Britannica said that 600,000 Armenians had been killed; in its 1968 edition this was raised to 1,5 million.

                    How many Armenians did die? It is impossible to determine the number exactly, since no complete death records were kept during those years. The only basis on which even an estimate can be made is the actual Armenian population in the Ottoman Empire at the time. Even here figures vary widely, with the Armenians claiming far more than other sources:

                    Claimed Armenian Population

                    1.British Annual Register 1917 1.056.000 (1)

                    2.Patriarch Ormanyan 1.579.000 (2)

                    3.The Armenian
                    historian Kevork Aslan 1.800,000 (3)

                    (In “Armenia and Armenians”, Aslan states the Armenian population in Anatolia 920.000, in Clicia (Adana, Sis, Maras) 180.000, in the other Ottoman territories 700.000, total 1.800.000)

                    4.German Priest Johannes Lepsius 1.600.000 (4)

                    5.Cuinet 1.045.018 (5)

                    6.The French Yellow Book 1.475.011 (6)

                    7.The Armenian historian Basmajian 2.280.000 (7)

                    8.Patriarch Nerses Varjabedyan 1.150.000 (8)

                    Official Ottoman census statistics are as follows:

                    The Ottoman Directory of Statistics was founded in 1892. The first director of the branch was Nuri Bey. Between 1892-1897 a xxxish Ottoman, Fethi Franco was appointed for the duty. From 1897 until 1903, an Armenian director was in charge, called Migirdic Shabanyan. Later, Mr. Robert an American was appointed (1903-1908). Between, 1908-1914 Mehmet Behic was the general director. (9)

                    As it is seen, in a very chaotic period when the Ottoman government was facing with the Armenian Issue on the international arena, the Ottoman Statistics were under the control of foreigners. At this point, the Ottoman statistics should be considered as the most objective documents about the Armenian population living in Ottoman territories.

                    * Ottoman census statistics for 1893 1.001.465

                    * Ottoman census statistics for 1906 1.120.748

                    * Ottoman census statistics for 1914 1.221.850 (10)

                    An evaluation of the three sources clarifies that, during the First World War, the Armenian population in the Ottoman territories was approximately 1.250.000.

                    The Armenian population subjected to relocation was 438.758 and 382.148 of these safely reached their new destinations. (11) The number of casualties had occurred as follows: 500 people on the road between Erzurum and Erzincan; 2000 in Meskene, between Urfa and Aleppo and 2000 others on the outskirts of Mardin were massacred in attacks launched by bandits or nomadic Arabs. Another 5000 people were killed in attacks on convoys passing through Dersim. (12) It was understood from these documents that many people had also fallen victim to hunger while on the road. (13) Apart from these, some 25-30 thousand people had lost their lives when struck by fatal diseases such as typhoid and dysentery. (14) In all, an estimated 40 thousand casualties had been registered during relocation.

                    The remaining 10-16 thousand people were made at stay in provinces they had reached, when the implementation of relocation was brought to an end. For instance, on April 26, 1916, orders were given to provide the return to and the settlement in the province of Konya of those Armenians setting out form the province to new destinations. (15) On the other hand, many other Armenians are believed to have fled to either Russia or to Western countries, including the Unites States.

                    As a matter of fact, according to the pertinent documents, 50.000 of the Armenian soldiers serving in the Ottoman Army joined the Russian forces, and some other 50.000 Armenian soldiers went to America to be trained in the US Army to fight against the Turkish Army. In fact, the letter of an Armenian called Murad Muradyan- who was an advocate in Elazig later immigrated to America — shows such information. (16) In the concerned letter, Muradyan mentions that some Armenians were escaped to Russia and America and later 50.000 of those trained soldiers went to Caucassia. As it can be understood from all the concerned documents, many of Armenian subjects of the Ottoman State were scattered through various countries especially to U.S.A. and Russia, before and during the war. For example, Artin Hotomyan who was a tradesman in America sent a letter to the Chieftain of Security on January 19, 1915 and stated that thousands of Armenians migrated to U.S.A. and they were facing with hunger and hardships. (17)

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