Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

[KarotheGreat]

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I just posted you a reference which proves that Soviet Union demanded Kars and Ardahan and you're still continuing the same song.

The Sevres Armenia was impossible to happen at that time because of the genocide. That was the aim of the genocide. Blaming it to the Soviets is nonsensical.

And let me tell you something, the Tsar didn't sympathise the Armenians. The Russian services at times were competing the Turks in anti-armenianess.

You are forgeting about the treaty of Kars that was sighend by the Sovjet goverment for better friendship with turkey and they give also Artsakh to the azeris
and the tsar maybe wasn't pro-armenian but he was anti-turkish and could you give the date that the treaty of Sèvres was singend because I think it was after WW1

[Կարմիր Բ]

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I just posted you a reference which proves that Soviet Union demanded Kars and Ardahan and you're still continuing the same song.

The Sevres Armenia was impossible to happen at that time because of the genocide. That was the aim of the genocide. Blaming it to the Soviets is nonsensical.

And let me tell you something, the Tsar didn't sympathise the Armenians. The Russian services at times were competing the Turks in anti-armenianess.

What we must do is to strengthen economically, and thus militarily the country, but this can't occur when thieves rule the country who don't care for Armenia.

[KarotheGreat]

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What a liar you are. The Dashnaks have already signed the treaty giving our lands before the Bolsheviks.

The Treaty of Alexandropol was a peace treaty between the Democratic Republic of Armenia and TBMM ending the Turkish-Armenian War, before declaration of the Republic of Turkey on December 2 1920. Armenian was forced to renounce the Treaty of Sèvres and cede over 50% of her territory to Turkey. The treaty was to be ratified by the government within a month.

http://www.answers.com/topic/treaty-of-alexandropol



Dashnaks want to give away ''their'' lands? Who the xxxx are you Dashnaks who think that the land belongs to you? These lands belong to Armenia boy, and within the Red Army there were numerous Armenians fighters. The fact of the matter is that you weren't fighting for Armenia, you were fighting for Capitalism and for your money. If you loved Armenia you would have never signed the Treaty of Alexandropol, instead you would let Soviet Union to negotiate the borders. But no, you just had to sign a peace treaty with the Turks, denounce Sevres and fight the Red Army. Because as I said, you aren't Armenians you are Capitalists, you fight for the money, never for the country. Before the Dashnaks left Armenia, they took all the gold from the country and left nothing behind, they said that they would return it when Armenia was ''liberated''. They have never brought the money that they stole.

By the way, after the end of the World War Stalin demanded Kars and Ardahan back from Turkey, which was the main reason why Turkey entered to the NATO.

''In 1945 the USSR demanded Turkey to cede Kars and Ardahan to the Armenian Republic; Turkey refused to comply. In 1946 Joseph Stalin demanded that control over Bosphorus and Dardanelles be handed over to the USSR. Equally disturbing to Turkey was the temporary Soviet occupation of Iranian Azerbaijan (1946).''

http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/asmin/turkey194551.html

The Soviets didn't do this out of care for Armenia, by they sure did more for Armenia than anything the ultranationalist traitors have.

At first I'm not a dashnak
Second ok that was not their lands but who is lenin to give away our land for beter friendship with turkey
third were was your mighty red army in artasak I'll tell you were they were they were fighting against our men with the azeri dogs

Karo

[Կարմիր Բ]

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I didn't even read it. Possibly some unscientific rant.

Reasonable people like me will make Armenia great one day.

[Armenian]

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Modern Armenians are a mix of people, the language is different than what the ancient Armenians used.

And what is your pointless point?

If you went back in the Armenian Plateau 2500 years ago you wouldn't be able to communicate with them. The same applies to the Greeks and the Persians.

I don't know about Persians or Greeks, but according to Armenian linguists - a modern Armenian could "communicate" with his/her ancient ancestors if he/she was well versed in Grabar. And what's the point again?

Generally there was no such thing as ethnic consciousness up until the 19th century.

False. Sell your Western derived BS elsewhere. The "Armenian consciousness" is at least as old as the Araratian Federation. Go back and read the materials I have posted.

Like this one for example: http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpo...6&postcount=52

I can't call you an idiot here due to board rules. However, I can tell you that you are sounding very-very unsmart.

And of course we have nothing to do with the Urartians, except a couple of words such as ''artziv''. And the Urartians have nothing to do with us son. If you tell to any real historian that the Urartians were Armenians he will fall down laughing and you will make us seem idiots.

Real historian?!?!?! Like who? Like your Turco-Joo scholars who claim that Thrace dwelling Armenians invaded Anatolia and took over Urartian lands? I actually fell down laughing at how ignorant and self-hating you are, little Bolshevik. You speak like a typical Turk, or a Bolshevik for that matter. Go back and read the materials I posted if you have any reading skills and/or human logic, and you will see how stupid you are sounding.

Do yourself a favor and read what I wrote to another member here regarding Armenians being Urartians: http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpo...3&postcount=60

[QUOTE]I said a simple thing: anyone who claims that we are the same people, after all these migrations, to the first armenians who came in the armenian plateau is unable of coherent thought.[QUOTE]

Armenians today are more-or-less the same as Armenians two thousand years ago. However, realizaing this does require some exposure to Armenian studies, common sense and self-pride. In other words, I see why you are not aware of it.

And I'm not even going to entertain the rest of your absurd rants about Dashnaks this and Dashnaks that... You sound like a troubled little child damaged beyond repair by your Bolshevik parents. I can almost see you in your little messy bedroom: with a Starwars light saber, toy soldiers, comic books and Bolshvik paraphernalia made in China.

Things like you actually exist in the Armenian community? How do you actually survive in public?

Amazing...

[exfo]

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Armenians is aryans...Happy us

Bravo! Armenians are aryans. Happy you!

[Կարմիր Բ]

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What a liar you are. The Dashnaks have already signed the treaty giving our lands before the Bolsheviks.

The Treaty of Alexandropol was a peace treaty between the Democratic Republic of Armenia and TBMM ending the Turkish-Armenian War, before declaration of the Republic of Turkey on December 2 1920. Armenian was forced to renounce the Treaty of Sèvres and cede over 50% of her territory to Turkey. The treaty was to be ratified by the government within a month.

http://www.answers.com/topic/treaty-of-alexandropol

If you would know anything about war you would know that a war on two fronts is almost sure a lost war. And if dashnaks wants to give a way their lands for a treaty they can do that because it's their lands but the comunists can not do that with our lands and the dashnaks did evrey thing they could do to protect their people in those dark years and Socialism will never return to Hayastan we'll have a king before socialism will return

Dashnaks want to give away ''their'' lands? Who the xxxx are you Dashnaks who think that the land belongs to you? These lands belong to Armenia boy, and within the Red Army there were numerous Armenians fighters. The fact of the matter is that you weren't fighting for Armenia, you were fighting for Capitalism and for your money. If you loved Armenia you would have never signed the Treaty of Alexandropol, instead you would let Soviet Union to negotiate the borders. But no, you just had to sign a peace treaty with the Turks, denounce Sevres and fight the Red Army. Because as I said, you aren't Armenians you are Capitalists, you fight for the money, never for the country. Before the Dashnaks left Armenia, they took all the gold from the country and left nothing behind, they said that they would return it when Armenia was ''liberated''. They have never brought the money that they stole.

By the way, after the end of the World War Stalin demanded Kars and Ardahan back from Turkey, which was the main reason why Turkey entered to the NATO.

''In 1945 the USSR demanded Turkey to cede Kars and Ardahan to the Armenian Republic; Turkey refused to comply. In 1946 Joseph Stalin demanded that control over Bosphorus and Dardanelles be handed over to the USSR. Equally disturbing to Turkey was the temporary Soviet occupation of Iranian Azerbaijan (1946).''

http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/asmin/turkey194551.html

The Soviets didn't do this out of care for Armenia, by they sure did more for Armenia than anything the ultranationalist traitors have.

[KarotheGreat]

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You Dashnak traitors were the one's who signed the Treaty of Alexandropol and ceased the majority of our lands to Turkey in order to fight the Red Army. Learn history. The Dashnaks were the most incompetent politicians we ever had. They were unable to organize the Armenians of the Ottoman Empire and to arm them in order to prevent the Genocide except in Van. But soon things shall change, and we Armenians will teach a good lesson to all the traitors who have brought poverty and misery to our country.

If you would know anything about war you would know that a war on two fronts is almost sure a lost war. And if dashnaks wants to give a way their lands for a treaty they can do that because it's their lands but the comunists can not do that with our lands and the dashnaks did evrey thing they could do to protect their people in those dark years and Socialism will never return to Hayastan we'll have a king before socialism will return
EDIT: The Treaty of Kars (Turkish: Kars Antlaşması, Russian: Карсский договор) was a friendship treaty between the Grand National Assembly of Turkey (which was declared Turkey in 1923) and representatives of Bolshevist Russia, Soviet Armenia, Soviet Azerbaijan and Soviet Georgia (all of which formed part of the Soviet Union after the December 1922 Union Treaty). [1][2] It was a successor treaty to the earlier Treaty of Moscow of March 1921. It was signed in Kars on October 23, 1921 [1] and ratified in Yerevan on September 11, 1922. [2]

Most of the territories ceded to Turkey in the treaty were acquired by Imperial Russia from the Ottoman Empire during the Russo-Turkish War of 1877–1878. The only exception was the Surmalu region which was annexed by Russia in the Treaty of Turkmanchai after the last Russo-Persian War with Iran.

loke what I've found about your great comunist heroes

[Կարմիր Բ]

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Furthermore anyone who claims that Armenia nowdays is independent and not trully dependent on foreign powers simply is unaware of diplomacy. At least during Soviet Union you could have a decent life. 1.ooo.ooo have emmigrated since the fall of the Soviet Union.

Of course Armenia is not ready for Socialism like the one in Soviet Union. We are a too small country to sustain the pressure. But what we can do is to eliminate all these mafiosos who run our country (and their ass kissers), become a Western like democracy, to save whatever is left from our industry, fight corrpution and respect human rights.

Once we do these, we can prepare the country for that once chance to retake the western parts. But these things can't be done by corrupt mafiosos or ultra-nationalistic wackos, but by reasonable and pragmatist people.

[TomServo]

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all the traitors who have brought poverty and misery to our country.