Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

[Armanen]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

i've heard that armenians came from balkans, maybe is wrong

Not maybe, it is wrong. Did some tribe possibly come from the Balkans and mix with the Armenians or Armenic tribes, it's likely, but was this tribe from the Balkans the proto-Armenians, hell no!

Visit www.armenianhighland.com to learn more.

[diaukhi]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

i've heard that armenians came from balkans, maybe is wrong

[Armanen]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

was aratta also armenian?

Not nearly enough info on Arrata to make a conclusive decision but I'm sure with time we will know.

Judging for your comments I bet you (wrongly) believe Armenians settled in Armenia from Phyrgia. I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[diaukhi]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

was aratta also armenian?

[Armanen]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

why don't you understand that urartu was not armenia?

The Kingdom of Ararat aka Urartu was an Armenian kingdom or at the very least a proto-Armenian kingdom.

[diaukhi]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

why don't you understand that urartu was not armenia?

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

Read the OP.

[Armanen]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

I can't believe this ridiculous thread still exists.

Care to explain what is so ridiculous about it?

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

I can't believe this ridiculous thread still exists.

[jgk3]

Re: Aryan Roots Save Armenians from Nazi Extermination

Yes, please e-mail me the file.

The western conspiracy that I see is not that Armenia is not the IE homeland, rather the continued attitude that Armenian historians are all nationalists and therefore their work is more biased than non Armenian sources. A number of western 'historians' that write about Armenia continue to advocate that Armenians arrived in Asia Minor from the Balkans, basing most of this on the comments made by Herodotus. As you said, and as I mentioned too, I do not doubt that the Armenian ethnogenesis includes both IE and Caucasian blood. But I think the mix of the two happened sooner than 600 BC, and as you mentioned it is very likely that the population of Armenia was bi-lingual. I believe this is the case with the Kingdom of Ararat, the religious and diplomatic language was Urartian, but the vernacular was ancient Armenian.

I hope you are successful in finding more evidence that suggests Armenia was the IE homeland, if not, I will at least know that you didn't have an agenda to push.

Thanks for your understanding reply. I too must protest that there is no indication for why the Indo-European presence in the Armenian Highlands cannot be earlier than 600BC. The reasoning is that just because Urartu used a non-Indo-European language, Indo-Europeans did not live in their kingdom. But then why do the Armenians identify with their patron god Hayk, who founded our tribe in the Armenian Highlands and slew Bel single-handedly? What the hell does Bel, the God-King of the Babylonians have to do with the 600BC and later? The same goes for the story of Ara the Beautiful and Semiramis... Clearly, the international scene ignores Mashtots' description of the pagan religion of Armenia when they hold that our history must be neatly separated from that of Urartu. If they cared to pay more attention, they'd see that they are contradicting the story told by Armenian linguistics and mythology on a level that would be embarressing if they were instead dealing with Ancient Greek, Avestan or Sanskrit.

p.s.I'll send you the files soon.