If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

[Էլիա]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

I really think we need a general history forum.
But, I found something. I guess I didn't really know how many Mamluks were Georgians? Near the end, pretty much the entire Mamluk organization was Georgian. Also, I wonder how many of the barbaric Mamluks ended up back in Georgia, after Ottomans took over. More importantly, this could explain Georgia's anti-Armenian stance in the past few centuries.

http://www.napoleon-series.org/milit...mameluks1.html

Sorry, but who are the Mamluks?

[karoaper]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

I really think we need a general history forum.
But, I found something. I guess I didn't really know how many Mamluks were Georgians? Near the end, pretty much the entire Mamluk organization was Georgian. Also, I wonder how many of the barbaric Mamluks ended up back in Georgia, after Ottomans took over. More importantly, this could explain Georgia's anti-Armenian stance in the past few centuries.

http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/c_mameluks1.html

[skhara]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

The existing Azerbaijani leader is a wise man too.

These clowns should realize that they will never ever get the kind of military imbalance they had in 1991-1992.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

Is he serious ? If he is than he's very stupid. AndI don't think Armenia should Fear Azerbedjan but that GEorgia should fear Russia. And when Azerbedjan starts another war they will lose their independence

Ps this was the funniest part

“ Armenia should respect Azerbaijan, otherwise it may lost its independence. I think that Armenians will realize the necessity to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The delay in this issue may represent even more heavy results than the present-day ones, as Azerbaijan has left behind both Armenia and Georgia by economic, military and defence, and other indicators,” stated Mr. Shevranadze.

“Heydar Aliyev was a unique person. He founded the independent state on an empty place. The existing Azerbaijani leader is a wise man too. Heydar Aliyev did not make a mistake when he chose him as his successor,” concluded the Georgian Ex-President.

[Armenian]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

The sad state of Georgian politics...

Georgian Ex-President Says Armenia Should Respect Azerbaijan

Eduard Shevarnadze, the Georgian Ex-President, who worked together with Azerbaijan’s All-Nation Leader heydar Aliyev for many years, urges Armenia to respect Azerbaijan, since it is the most powerful state in South Caucasus, Trend reports referring to the National AzTV Channel. According to Mr. Shevarnadze, just owing to the political will of Heydar Aliyev, Azerbaijan has taken the leading position in the region.

“ Armenia should respect Azerbaijan, otherwise it may lost its independence. I think that Armenians will realize the necessity to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The delay in this issue may represent even more heavy results than the present-day ones, as Azerbaijan has left behind both Armenia and Georgia by economic, military and defence, and other indicators,” stated Mr. Shevranadze.

“Heydar Aliyev was a unique person. He founded the independent state on an empty place. The existing Azerbaijani leader is a wise man too. Heydar Aliyev did not make a mistake when he chose him as his successor,” concluded the Georgian Ex-President.

Link: http://news.trendaz.com/cgi-bin/read...923956&lang=EN

[TomServo]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

Not any time in the foreseeable future.

[Էլիա]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

Դժբախտաբար այս է մեր երկրի շրջակայկի քաղաքական իրականութիւնը:

Ե՞րբ կը կարծես հայերը եւ վրացիները աւելի լաւ յարաբերութիւն կ'ունենան:

[Armenian]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

Thats a good article, where did you get it?

I apologize for not posting the link: http://groong.usc.edu/tcc/tcc-20060508.html

Btw I'm under the impression that if the Armenians had remained Zoroastrian (or renounced Christianity and became Zoroastrian again), they would probably have succumbed to the Arab conquests and converted en masse to Islam. The resistance led by Kach Vartan was pivotal in establishing a successful precedence for resisting assimilation.

I agree. The following is an article I had written about Vardanak: http://forum.hayary.org/viewtopic.php?t=117

Չեմ հաւատար որ վրացիները ասանկ ըրին: Ես ալ կարծեցի որ հայերը եւ վրացիները միշտ լաւ կամ բնական յարաբերութիւն ունեցած են:

Դժբախտաբար այս է մեր երկրի շրջակայկի քաղաքական իրականութիւնը:

[Էլիա]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

Չեմ հաւատար որ վրացիները ասանկ ըրին: Ես ալ կարծեցի որ հայերը եւ վրացիները միշտ լաւ կամ բնական յարաբերութիւն ունեցած են:

[ArmSurvival]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

Thats a good article, where did you get it?

Btw I'm under the impression that if the Armenians had remained Zoroastrian (or renounced Christianity and became Zoroastrian again), they would probably have succumbed to the Arab conquests and converted en masse to Islam. The resistance led by Kach Vartan was pivotal in establishing a successful precedence for resisting assimilation.