If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

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Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

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[TomServo]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

Not any time in the foreseeable future.

[Armenian]

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The sad state of Georgian politics...

Georgian Ex-President Says Armenia Should Respect Azerbaijan

Eduard Shevarnadze, the Georgian Ex-President, who worked together with Azerbaijan’s All-Nation Leader heydar Aliyev for many years, urges Armenia to respect Azerbaijan, since it is the most powerful state in South Caucasus, Trend reports referring to the National AzTV Channel. According to Mr. Shevarnadze, just owing to the political will of Heydar Aliyev, Azerbaijan has taken the leading position in the region.

“ Armenia should respect Azerbaijan, otherwise it may lost its independence. I think that Armenians will realize the necessity to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The delay in this issue may represent even more heavy results than the present-day ones, as Azerbaijan has left behind both Armenia and Georgia by economic, military and defence, and other indicators,” stated Mr. Shevranadze.

“Heydar Aliyev was a unique person. He founded the independent state on an empty place. The existing Azerbaijani leader is a wise man too. Heydar Aliyev did not make a mistake when he chose him as his successor,” concluded the Georgian Ex-President.

Link: http://news.trendaz.com/cgi-bin/read...923956&lang=EN

[KarotheGreat]

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Is he serious ? If he is than he's very stupid. AndI don't think Armenia should Fear Azerbedjan but that GEorgia should fear Russia. And when Azerbedjan starts another war they will lose their independence

Ps this was the funniest part

“ Armenia should respect Azerbaijan, otherwise it may lost its independence. I think that Armenians will realize the necessity to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The delay in this issue may represent even more heavy results than the present-day ones, as Azerbaijan has left behind both Armenia and Georgia by economic, military and defence, and other indicators,” stated Mr. Shevranadze.

“Heydar Aliyev was a unique person. He founded the independent state on an empty place. The existing Azerbaijani leader is a wise man too. Heydar Aliyev did not make a mistake when he chose him as his successor,” concluded the Georgian Ex-President.

[skhara]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

The existing Azerbaijani leader is a wise man too.

These clowns should realize that they will never ever get the kind of military imbalance they had in 1991-1992.

[karoaper]

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I really think we need a general history forum.
But, I found something. I guess I didn't really know how many Mamluks were Georgians? Near the end, pretty much the entire Mamluk organization was Georgian. Also, I wonder how many of the barbaric Mamluks ended up back in Georgia, after Ottomans took over. More importantly, this could explain Georgia's anti-Armenian stance in the past few centuries.

http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/c_mameluks1.html

[Էլիա]

Re: If Armenians stayed Zoroastrian...

I really think we need a general history forum.
But, I found something. I guess I didn't really know how many Mamluks were Georgians? Near the end, pretty much the entire Mamluk organization was Georgian. Also, I wonder how many of the barbaric Mamluks ended up back in Georgia, after Ottomans took over. More importantly, this could explain Georgia's anti-Armenian stance in the past few centuries.

http://www.napoleon-series.org/milit...mameluks1.html

Sorry, but who are the Mamluks?

[Կարմիր Բ]

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If Armenians remained Zoroastrians I reckon that we would be part of Iran right now and we would have an Iranian ethnic consciousness. The reason why Armenia managed to create a distinct national identity was, apart the language, because we had our own head of Church and sect of Christianity, meaning that they took no order from the Vatican and Constantinople. Gregorian Christianity and our independent Church is why there are Armenians today.

[karoaper]

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Sorry, but who are the Mamluks?

Rulers of Egypt, who were initially of Kurdish ancestry. They also ruled over the Holy Land, and were very hard on Christians. They brought in droves of Turkish, and apparently, Georgian (which I didn't know) slaves, who were promoted and at different points in time became the ruling families themselves.

[Aramis63]

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I wouldn’t compare it with Georgians, for the simple reason that the scums called Georgians, are just Christian Turks (georgian is an alias) and unlike Persians, they have ALWAYS been hostile to us… Thus, without Christianity, we would have been assimilated easily to muslum Iranians …

And georgians always backstabbed us.

But am proud that we had our own gods.

By the way...just recall the birth of Vahagn....this alone gives me proof that our ancestors had very high and close knowledge of what they call now chi kung.

Combination of heaven's energy (yang) and earth's energy ( yin) gives life.

But they burnt our ancient text, when we turned Christians, yes?