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  • Anoush
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    Originally posted by alphapapa View Post
    panarmenian.net/ washington has set azerbaijan a firm ultimatum: Karabakh independence will be recognized, should azerbaijan attempt to launch military operations in nkr, yeni musavat oppositional azeri party official website reported on tuesday, followed by other azeri media representatives.

    Baku asserts us deputy assistant secretary, tina s. Kaidanow was the one to express us position on baku's increased militaristic statements on karabakh conflict settlement. Moreover, us assert possessing information on azerbaijan’s secret preparations for a war.

    In observer's opinion, baku's military rhetoric is caused by the fact azerbaijan's territorial integrity is not included in agenda of armenia-azerbaijan negotiations on karabakh status, mediated by russia, us and france, newsru.com reports.
    Թող որ այդ եոթը գլխանի ճիվաղները «թաթարները» յառաչ գան եւ պատեռազմին՝ մենք պատրաստ ենք իրենց խփելու անգամ մը եւս: Եւ կամ ադկէց ալ առաչ Ամերիկան թող ընդունի մեր Արցախը:

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  • AlphaPapa
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    PanARMENIAN.Net/ Washington has set Azerbaijan a firm ultimatum: Karabakh independence will be recognized, should Azerbaijan attempt to launch military operations in NKR, Yeni Musavat Oppositional Azeri Party official website reported on Tuesday, followed by other Azeri media representatives.

    Baku asserts US Deputy Assistant Secretary, Tina S. Kaidanow was the one to express US position on Baku's increased militaristic statements on Karabakh conflict settlement. Moreover, US assert possessing information on Azerbaijan’s secret preparations for a war.

    In observer's opinion, Baku's military rhetoric is caused by the fact Azerbaijan's territorial integrity is not included in agenda of Armenia-Azerbaijan negotiations on Karabakh status, mediated by Russia, US and France, NEWSru.com reports.

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  • Anoush
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    Originally posted by Catharsis View Post
    I have to agree, I know there might be some Armenians with good intentions who will try to sugar coat this, but if you turn a blind eye to this reality, and understand that we desperately need to point out the problems and undertake house cleaning.

    Russia should realize that it only shoots itself in the foot when it keeps Armenia weak. Only a strong and prosperous Armenia can act like a wedge between the Turkic world stretching all the way to China and Siberia. The very nature of the Russian Federation comes into question and Turkic separatism is surely bound to reflect there as well in strongest terms when Turkey and Azerbaijan are "brought together." The situation will get out of hand as Russia thinks it can control and manipulate both Turkey and Azerbaijan along with Armenia. Russia should let Diasporans to get involved into Armenian affairs (which would skyrocket Armenian development by tenfold), instead of these hollow and (on purpose) ineffective showcases like the "Ministry of Diaspora."
    You got it right again Catharsis, I also agree of course, good points.

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  • AlphaPapa
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    abris

    Originally posted by Catharsis View Post
    I have to agree, I know there might be some Armenians with good intentions who will try to sugar coat this, but if you turn a blind eye to this reality, and understand that we desperately need to point out the problems and undertake house cleaning.

    Russia should realize that it only shoots itself in the foot when it keeps Armenia weak. Only a strong and prosperous Armenia can act like a wedge between the Turkic world stretching all the way to China and Siberia. The very nature of the Russian Federation comes into question and Turkic separatism is surely bound to reflect there as well in strongest terms when Turkey and Azerbaijan are "brought together." The situation will get out of hand as Russia thinks it can control and manipulate both Turkey and Azerbaijan along with Armenia. Russia should let Diasporans to get involved into Armenian affairs (which would skyrocket Armenian development by tenfold), instead of these hollow and (on purpose) ineffective showcases like the "Ministry of Diaspora."
    Excellent reply...agree 100%.

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  • Catharsis
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    Originally posted by AlphaPapa View Post
    Who cares about a homeland when you have the wealth to buy houses in every continent?

    The Turks are masters at black hand tactics (mafia/government collaboration). You have to understand that there was a power struggle during the war, drug traffickers and growers versus soldiers. That struggle ended. How? And why are veterans and respectable leaders who REALLY cared about the 'homeland' being assassinated and silenced TO THIS DAY?

    In Armenia, like many other countries Mafia = Government

    To them, it's about money, nothing else.
    I have to agree, I know there might be some Armenians with good intentions who will try to sugar coat this, but if you turn a blind eye to this reality, and understand that we desperately need to point out the problems and undertake house cleaning.

    Russia should realize that it only shoots itself in the foot when it keeps Armenia weak. Only a strong and prosperous Armenia can act like a wedge between the Turkic world stretching all the way to China and Siberia. The very nature of the Russian Federation comes into question and Turkic separatism is surely bound to reflect there as well in strongest terms when Turkey and Azerbaijan are "brought together." The situation will get out of hand as Russia thinks it can control and manipulate both Turkey and Azerbaijan along with Armenia. Russia should let Diasporans to get involved into Armenian affairs (which would skyrocket Armenian development by tenfold), instead of these hollow and (on purpose) ineffective showcases like the "Ministry of Diaspora."

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  • AlphaPapa
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    Who cares about a homeland when you have the wealth to buy houses in every continent?

    The Turks are masters at black hand tactics (mafia/government collaboration). You have to understand that there was a power struggle during the war, drug traffickers and growers versus soldiers. That struggle ended. How? And why are veterans and respectable leaders who REALLY cared about the 'homeland' being assassinated and silenced TO THIS DAY?

    In Armenia, like many other countries Mafia = Government

    To them, it's about money, nothing else.

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  • ninetoyadome
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    Originally posted by AlphaPapa View Post
    These mafioso didn't care about their fellow Armenians during the war, why should they be patriots in their hearts now?
    but tell me this why would he give away his homeland? Why would he give away the land he grew up on to people he knows will completely destroy any evidence of Armenian culture from the land?
    you guys talk about the protocols and how Serzh sold Artsakh to azerbaijan but did you guys actually think about why the azeris are so pissed off at turkey for not including Artsakh in the protocols? If he sold Artsakh then why are the azeris pissed off? turkey cant make Armenia give up Artsakh, no one can. Serzh will not sell Artsakh.

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  • AlphaPapa
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    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
    Hes not going to give land back. Its his homeland, he fought for it, why would he give it back? He has stated on numerous occasions that a countries self determination comes before territorial integrity which means the people of Artsakh will vote on there future.
    These mafioso didn't care about their fellow Armenians during the war, why should they be patriots in their hearts now?

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  • Anoush
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    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
    Hes not going to give land back. Its his homeland, he fought for it, why would he give it back? He has stated on numerous occasions that a countries self determination comes before territorial integrity which means the people of Artsakh will vote on there future.
    I sure hope so and he sure better not ninetoyadome. If Artsakh goes so will the little Armenia.

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  • ninetoyadome
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    Originally posted by Anoush View Post
    We cannot believe Serge, he doesn't want to open up completely neither to us Diasporans nor to his own people in Armenia.

    I just hope and pray that he doesn't give away any of our hard earned lands by our martyred brethren around Artsakh back to the enemy.
    Hes not going to give land back. Its his homeland, he fought for it, why would he give it back? He has stated on numerous occasions that a countries self determination comes before territorial integrity which means the people of Artsakh will vote on there future.

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