News about Artsakh

[Icy]

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Well if we can't make nukes, then we should
atleast make our miliatry better. I mean I
remember seeing a documentary on how
Armenia used to make fire arms. Maybe we
should strengthen our defense force by making
fire arms, buying tanks, and stocking up on
ammunition.

[Mos]

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Armenia can't just make nukes. We can't afford it.

Literally speaking we can but wasteing the money making a nuke will throw what we spend that money for out of balance and economy would be xxxxed.

plus, the countries in the caucaus are so small that if we drop a nuclear bomb on azerbaijan, it will also affect us.

[Pazooki]

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Well if we can't make nukes, then we should
atleast make our miliatry better. I mean I
remember seeing a documentary on how
Armenia used to make fire arms. Maybe we
should strengthen our defense force by making
fire arms, buying tanks, and stocking up on
ammunition.

Why make high artillery weapons when we got the skill to make up for it?
Our defenses are strong enough. We're strong enough to defend against strong countries.

[ninetoyadome]

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Plus we got alot of artillery from Russia for cheap.
ARMENIA: YEREVAN BUYING RUSSIAN ARMS AT CSTO DISCOUNT
5/22/09

Russia is selling guns at a discounted price to its budget-conscious allies Armenia and Belarus under membership provisions of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), a Moscow-led counterweight to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), the Arminfo news agency reported.

"Agreements on the basic principles of military and technical cooperation within the framework of the CSTO are fully effective and include supplying military hardware to CSTO states at a privileged price," CSTO spokesperson Vitaly Strugovets told Arminfo. He added that Belarus and Armenia are making effective use of the opportunity.
The volume of orders for Russian weaponry and materiel tripled between 2007 and 2008, Strugovets said.

and plus the azeris have money but dont forget about the corruption. Federate had posted an article a while back where it was talking about the corruption.

Top Army Karabakh would be the best South Caucasus
The military budget of Azerbaijan victim of corruption

According to experts of the Center Armenians Armenian military strategic analysis of "the overarmament South Caucasus is to the detriment of economic growth in the countries concerned." According to its data these weapons threaten the region and increase the risk of conflict. In the South Caucasus, Georgia would have spent since 2004 working hard to increase its defense capabilities. Azerbaijan in 2004 which had a budget of $ 175 million devoted to the defense, saw it reach $ 2.5 billion for 2009. But according to experts geostrategic Armenians, "with the very high corruption taking place in Azerbaijan, the growth of military spending has not improved the offensive capability of the army." The latter argue that the military capacity of Armenia, despite its low budget, no less than that of Azerbaijan. According to these same experts, in case of conflict, Azerbaijan could not draw any advantage on the ground. Especially since the organization, morale and discipline of the Armenian army and that of the Nagorno Karabakh growing number of military experts assert that the defense forces are among the best of the former Soviet republics. "In many respects, the armed forces of the Nagorno Karabakh would be depending on the number of experts, better than the army of Armenia" Experts say these strategic. Azerbaijan has the largest number of hosts South Caucasus, with 72 000 men. Georgia, with only 17 500 troops supported and prepared it is true by the forces of NATO. Armenia however has 42 military and Upper Karabakh nearly 18 000.

azeris had more artillery during the first war. i watched an interview with Monte Melkonian where he takes about the artillery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoNbOw8-PEM&feature=channel_page

its a 5 part interview, i recommend watching all of them.

[Icy]

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I've watched all of them nine.
I know about the past, I'm talking about
the present. Armenia should really consider
strengthening it's defenses.

[ninetoyadome]

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i have heard people say Armenia has the best anti-air in the region. we have alot of artillery in Armenia and dont forget about Artsakh we have alot of artillery there also. I do actually think that if azerbaijan attacks we will be able to stop them and possibly take more land if we advance.

[Icy]

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Ya you're right, I actually hope if next time their is
a war we just take over all of Azerbaijan, and we make
them surrender.

[Pazooki]

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I've watched all of them nine.
I know about the past, I'm talking about
the present. Armenia should really consider
strengthening it's defenses.

Read my previous post.

[Pazooki]

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Azeri, Turkish Leaders Say No Progress In Karabakh Talks


Turkish Foreign Minister (L) Ahmet Davutoglu with Azeri Foreign Minister Elmar Mammadyarov (R).

YEREVAN (Combined Sources)–In a move that could undermine efforts by international mediators to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, the Azerbaijani and Turkish foreign ministers said over the weekend that Armenia and Azerbaijan have made no progress in resolving the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh, sharply contradicting optimistic statements made by international mediators.

“Despite the development of a new situation in the region, Armenia has unfortunately begun having a negative influence on the peace process,” Azerbaijani Foreign Minister Elmar Mammadyarov told the Trend news agency.

“We achieved everything with the previous Armenian administration in the peace process, but with the current Armenian administration we have achieved nothing,” he said. “As a person leading the negotiations, I cannot boast that we have made even some progress in outstanding issues.”

Mammadyarov’s Turkish counterpart, Ahmet Davutoglu, had a similar take on the current state of the Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiating process. “There has been no progress,” he told the Anatolia news agency on Sunday. “It is time to revive this process. Turkey will continue its efforts.”

Turkey, a non-actor in the Minsk Group mediated negotiations, has been seeking to boost its role in the peace process by threatening to derail its US-brokered talks with Armenia if a resolution to the Nagorno-Karabakh favoring its ally Azerbaijan is not reached first.

Davutoglu said that a strong Azerbaijan implies a strong Turkey. “Our Azerbaijani brothers and sisters should know that, just as in the past, Turkey will be on the side of Azerbaijan in the future,” Davutoglu said. “Turkey and Azerbaijan are not merely friends and neighbors. They are also strategic partners.”

The two ministers spoke in Damascus, Syria where they attended a high-level meeting of the Organization of the Islamic Conference countries. They were due to fly to Baku and hold talks there late on Monday.

The apparent reversal in official attitude by Ankara and Baku toward the Karabakh peace process comes a week after the OSCE Minsk Group’s French co-chair, Bernard Fassier, warned Turkey that its attempts to link the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict with the normalization of its relations with Armenia could jeopardize the new momentum in the talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan explicitly reaffirmed that linkage during his visit to Azerbaijan on May 13, saying that it is “impossible” for Turkey to open its border with Armenia unless the “Occupation of Karabakh” ends.

Those remarks were met with sharp criticism in Armenia, with President Serzh Sarkisian and Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian warning that Turkey’s posturing could hamper both the Armenian-Azerbaijani, as well as the Armenian-Turkish negotiations.

Sarkisian has held four face-to-face meetings with Azerbaijan’s Ilham Aliyev since taking office in April 2008. Their most recent talks took place in Prague on May 7. According to the U.S., Russian and French diplomats co-chairing the OSCE, the two leaders further narrowed their differences over the basic principles of a Karabakh settlement proposed by the mediating troika.

The mediators’ upbeat statements about chances for the signing of an Armenian-Azerbaijani framework peace accord have been strongly denounced by Aliyev’s chief foreign policy aide, Novruz Mammadov. He has accused them of adopting “double standards” and favoring the Armenian side out of “Christian solidarity.”

Still, the Minsk Group’s U.S. co-chair, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Bryza, insisted on May 15 that Aliyev and Sarkisian did make “significant progress” in Prague. “Novruz Mammadov has no way to judge what the outcome of the discussion was because he wasn’t there,” Bryza told RFE/RL’s Azerbaijani service.

“We have a series, between 10 and 20 basic principles in our Madrid document, and we have a handful of the 10-12 issues that still need to be worked out conceptually,” he said. “And what I felt during those negotiations … was that the presidents did in fact work through the concepts of that handful of basic principles that had not been agreed. What they didn’t do was agree on the details.

“And that’s the focus of our negotiations right now. To have a conceptual agreement, but not to agree on the details, is significant progress.”

Bryza and his French and Russian colleagues are due to again visit the conflict zone this week to prepare for yet another Armenian-Azerbaijani summit tentatively scheduled for the beginning of next month. They hope that it will yield a long-awaited breakthrough in the Karabakh peace process.

Source:

http://www.asbarez.com/2009/05/26/azeri-turkish-leaders-jeopardize-karabakh-talks/

[KanadaHye]

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This was taken from a Turkish source http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/w...0664.asp?scr=1

FM Davutoglu says Azerbaijan's stability highly important for Turkey


BAKU - Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Tuesday Azerbaijan's stability, well-being, future and territorial integrity is highly important for Turkey.

FM Davutoglu says Azerbaijan's stability highly important for Turkey

Speaking at a joint press conference with his Azerbaijani counterpart Elmar Mammadyarov in Baku, Davutoglu said that a strong Azerbaijan implies a strong Turkey.

"Our Azerbaijani brothers and sisters should know that, just as in the past, Turkey will be on the side of Azerbaijan in the future," Davutoglu said.

"Our message to regional actors, including Armenia, is very clear. The region must be free of occupations and tensions," Davutoglu noted.

The issue of Upper Karabakh, a region under Armenian occupation, must be resolved as soon as possible within the framework of Azerbaijan's territorial integrity, Davutoglu stressed.

"Relations between Turkey and Azerbaijan are excellent. Turkey and Azerbaijan are not merely friends and neighbors. They are also strategic partners," Davutoglu said.

Minister Mammadyarov, for his part, said that Davutoglu and he discussed bilateral issues.

"Our relations are excellent and we are confident that such relations will develop further," Mammadyarov said.

"During our talks today, we discussed issues such as Karabakh, energy, economy, culture and cooperation in other fields. The trade volume between Turkey and Azerbaijan is worth more than $2 billion but we are not satisfied with this number," Mammadyarov said.

Davutoglu also met with the Azerbaijani Prime Minister Artur Rasizade on Tuesday. Davutoglu's meeting with Rasizade was closed to the press.