News about Artsakh

[ninetoyadome]

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Based on what the Armenian media has reported, it includes returning some of the liberated territory around NKR proper to azerbaijan, Lachin will stay to provide a corridor to Armenia, the resettlement of all displaced persons from Karabakh, both Armenian and azeri, then hold a referendum after 15 years to either rejoin Armenia, azerbaijan or stay independent.

It's not the idle situation but if official Yerevan and Stepanakert can be assured somehow (this is the sticking point) that baku will not attack Artsakh under any circumstances then this is a fairly good deal.

Again, it should be noted that non of this is official.

Well the problem with that is azerbaijan will not stop claiming land from Armenia. Recently aliyev, while in Nakichevan, claimed after Artsakh is returned they will get Zangezour. Also lets not forget that in 15 years azeris will multiply tenfold like xxxxroaches until they are the majority and watch if a million azeris return to Artsakh aliyev will claim it was 2 million.

[ninetoyadome]

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Russia Must Recognize Karabakh’s Independence, Says Russian Duma Leader

MOSCOW (Tert.am)–“If Nagorno-Karabakh declares independence, then Russia must recognize that,” a leading member of the Russian Parliament said on Friday, speaking at the European and Asian Media Forum in Moscow.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the Vice-Chair of the State Duma and Leader of Liberal Democratic Party of Russia Vladimir Zhirinovsky, said he saw Russia’s recognition of Karabakh as the only way out of the current quagmire in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.
“Otherwise, Azerbaijan and Armenia will never agree on whom Nagorno-Karabakh belongs to. I have neither an Armenian- nor an Azerbaijani-leaning position,” said the Russian politician.
According to Zhirinovsky, Russia needs peace and stability in the South Caucasus.
“If that is secured, then let Armenia make ties with whoever it so chooses, whether that be Turkey, Iran, Georgia, or Azerbaijan,” he said. “But if there’s aggression, then we will stand by the victim countries and completely wipe out the aggressor.”
Asked by a journalist what is Russia’s role in Armenia’s rapprochement with Turkey, Zhirinovsky said: “We wouldn’t want Turkey, in that rapprochement, to make use of the entire South Caucasus in order to increase its influence.”

Like the guy said if azerbaijan attacks Russia and Armenia will wipe them out.

[Icy]

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Well the problem with that is azerbaijan will not stop claiming land from Armenia. Recently aliyev, while in Nakichevan, claimed after Artsakh is returned they will get Zangezour. Also lets not forget that in 15 years azeris will multiply tenfold like xxxxroaches until they are the majority and watch if a million azeris return to Artsakh aliyev will claim it was 2 million.

Does anyone know when we will draw the line on azerbaijan?
Damn it man it's been 18 years and this is something that should've been
easily settled, what the hell is Armenia doing it's just taking slap after slap from
the OSCE, the azeris, russia, and etc. It's time we set this whole thing straight.

[hipeter924]

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Does anyone know when we will draw the line on azerbaijan?
Damn it man it's been 18 years and this is something that should've been
easily settled, what the hell is Armenia doing it's just taking slap after slap from
the OSCE, the azeris, russia, and etc. It's time we set this whole thing straight.

I think the plan is simple, let them slap and slap and slap, and while this is going on rebuild Artasakh's economy, and build up Armenia's economic strength as a whole. Then when the Azeri's and Turk's finally try to make their move on Artasakh it will be too late. It will be a bedtime story for Armenian children just wait and see. Bye bye Azeri fantasy.

[ashot24]

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Based on what the Armenian media has reported, it includes returning some of the liberated territory around NKR proper to azerbaijan, Lachin will stay to provide a corridor to Armenia, the resettlement of all displaced persons from Karabakh, both Armenian and azeri, then hold a referendum after 15 years to either rejoin Armenia, azerbaijan or stay independent.

It's not the idle situation but if official Yerevan and Stepanakert can be assured somehow (this is the sticking point) that baku will not attack Artsakh under any circumstances then this is a fairly good deal.

Again, it should be noted that non of this is official.

However, there will be also new things added to the principles, as it was said, there will be an "updated" version presented to Yerevan and Baku, including the new principles both country's signed respecting "non-use of force", "territorial integrity" and "people's right to self-determination".

Does anyone know when we will draw the line on azerbaijan?
Damn it man it's been 18 years and this is something that should've been
easily settled, what the hell is Armenia doing it's just taking slap after slap from
the OSCE, the azeris, russia, and etc. It's time we set this whole thing straight.

There's nothing sure about "drawing" any line or any border. Remember the one's who have the last word are the people and the government of NKR, and if they don't agree simply nothing will happen, no one can force them to accept anything, not Armenia, not Azerbaijan, not the OSCE. Besides, we must take into consideration that people of Artsakh have strongly affirmed that they will not cede any land.

And settling the Artsakh conflict is no walk in the park! During the early years of the conflict, everybody (including the OSCE) knew that if Armenians withdrew from the liberated territories and allowed Azeri forced to get back and refugees to return, the people of Artsakh would be facing the shadow of Genocide once again, and that is a fear that still remains, why do you think nothing has ever happened and no progress has been made? nobody needs and nobody wants more people dying that could led to WWIII in the South Caucasus. Time is needed because this is no easy thing and needs time until a proper resolution is reached. But the OSCE and the International Community very well knows who's the warmonger, peace disturbing, liars, "superpower"-mentality, and disrespectful to human rights part of the conflict here.

Azerbaijan every time is digging further into their own grave (politically speaking), they showed how stupid they could be in Eurovision, and now they will have to pay a fine, if they continue like that...soon they will have to pay more than just 'fines' in other situations too. Maybe Mr. Aliyev and his government believe they can control people in the world and shut up the press just as they do in their country, and God they are very very wrong.

The thing Azeries have to realize is that there is no chance of NKR ever returning to be part of Azerbaijan or a whatever republic with whatever status inside of Azerbaijan, that's something everybody understands cannot happen. NK was part of the former Azerbaijani SSR, it has never been and will never be part of the Republic of Azerbaijan.

I just wish more than anything that whatever the resolution of this conflict will be, it benefits the people of Artsakh more than any other part, that's how it should be and I hope it will be.

[ninetoyadome]

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Sarkisian Says Karabakh Must Join Peace Talks
By Asbarez Staff on Dec 16th, 2009 and filed under Armenia, Azerbaijan, International, Karabakh, News, Top Stories.
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YEREVAN (Combined Sources)—The Nagorno-Karabakh peace process will be successful only with the participation of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic in the negotiations, said President Serzh Sarkisian Tuesday during a meeting with a visiting Karabakh parliamentary delegation.
“We must be well aware that the Nagorno-Karabakh peace process can be crowned with success provided that the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic is immediately included in the negotiations. There is no other alternative,” Sarkisian told the visiting delegation.
“Everyone should know that the people of Nagorno-Karabakh defended their independence with their blood, fighting a war imposed on them,” added Sarkisian.
The Karabakh delegation head, parliament speaker Ashot Ghulian, said that while the peace negotiations were proceeding actively, the mechanisms of Karabakh’s participation in the talks remained unresolved.
“The complete participation of Nagorno-Karabakh in the negotiation process has not been clarified yet. It is a fundamental issue, because the guarantee for the implementation of final decisions rests on the people in Nagorno-Karabakh,” said Gulian.
Meanwhile, Official Baku blasted Sarkisian’s comments Wednesday saying that they were meant for internal/domestic consumption.
Azeri foreign ministry spokesman Elkhan Polukhov said Sarkisian made the remarks in order to gain public support for Armenia’s position in the negotiations.
“Such a statement by the occupier, Armenia, which holds 20 percent of Azeri lands, contradicts principles and norms of international law that prohibits the use of force and occupation of sovereign states,” added Polukhov.
The Azeri spokesperson added that the active negotiation process proves that Karabakh’s participation would not necessarily impact its success.

i seriously want to go punch polukhov in his face. hes talking about international law prohibiting use of force and his govt keeps threatening war with Armenia. azeris are really messed up in the head. i know its wrong to hit mentally challenged people but i wouldnt care in this situation.

[Karabed]

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Population policy of NKR
The Government of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) continues implementing a child-bearing encouragement program.

Fixed deposits will be opened at Artsakhbank for every third and next child. The Government will sponsor the construction of housing in case the sixth child is born in a family.

A family will receive a 100,000 AMD child benefit for the first child, and 200,000 AMD for the second child.

Since this January newly married couples have received 300,000 AMD as financial aid.

http://armenianmilitary.com/?p=711

Great program to encourage Artsakh Armenians to have more children.

[ashot24]

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“Sofia” shopping mall opens in Stepanakert

On 19 December President of the Nagorno Karabagh Republic Bako Sahakyan partook at a solemn ceremony of opening a “Sofia” shopping mall constructed by the “Four Directions” company in capital Stepanakert, central information department of the office of the NKR president informs.

The President underlined the important role of private business in the development of economy, especially the service sector and noted that the “Four Directions” company set a good pattern for stimulating investments in Artsakh.

http://aysor.am/en/news/2009/12/19/s...rading-arcakh/

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Nice thing!

[Haykakan]

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PRESIDENTS OF ARMENIA, RUSSIA, AZERBAIJAN TO MEET IN SOCHI ON JANUARY 25

armradio.am
21.01.2010 13:25

Presidents of the Republic of Armenia Serzh Sargsyan, President of
the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev and President of the Republic
of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev will meet in Sochi on January 25.

The meeting is dedicated to the settlement of the Nagorno Karabakh
conflict, President's Press Office reported.

[Muhaha]

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On 19 December President of the Nagorno Karabagh Republic Bako Sahakyan partook at a solemn ceremony of opening a “Sofia” shopping mall constructed by the “Four Directions” company in capital Stepanakert, central information department of the office of the NKR president informs.

I'm guessing that's a mistranslation or mistype, why would the ceremony be solemn?