I know it is hard to believe but yes Obama now has the right to kill anyone anywhere and this does mean killing US citizens in the middle of DC (or anywhere else) with everyone watching. As a matter of fact he has already assassinated a few US citizens and some teenage girls are on his hitlist to and yeh they are US citizens as well. It all started with the patiot act and has evolved into some neonazi executive privilage making Obama judge jury and executioner. Democracynow.com has a good segment about how a young judge tried to stand up to this by declaring the patriot act unconstitutional but she was being pressured heavily by the administration to change her mind and you sure as hell didnt hear about this stuff on CNN. I am not saying what goes on in Hayastan or America is ok but when you start comparing USA and Irael to Armenia you are infact comparing the godfather to one of the little rescals. Sure the gangster lifestyle is bad and needs to be condemed and changed but under the kind of government system we and many others have it will simply evolve into a more sophisticated and much deadlier form like the ones in the USA and Israel. I agree that this is off topic and these posts should be moved to another section.
Originally posted by Vrej1915
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No Haykakan,
If Obama has the right to wrap up a city like Damascus or Moscow without asking anything to anybody, this has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Can Obama kill a guy, a US citizen, before cameras, in the middle of DC, without critics? While NBC broadcasts the news???
If Serjik had the right to bomb Baku or Ankara, or a town called Kuala Lumpur (no harms to guys living there, never been there
), without consulting anybody, I would say, it would be bad for us, as a state, since in my opinion this is disfunction of a state, but yet, even if he would have killed 2000 guys there, it would be much an other story, and I would not cry fool on it...
Do you see the difference?
If tomorrow, God forbid, we loose hundred of lives in a miscalculated, or interest guided foreign policy or military campain, you would be right, but as far as I know, the nephew of Rumspheld did not mob killed an innocent in the middle of town, filmed and reported, and yet UNPUNISHED... do you see the difference??
Of course there is mafia, there are robberies, killings, drug addicts, family murders, dishonesty, prostitutes, etc... in Armenia, just as there are in any country. But this kind of Impunity due to blatant merger between ill-educated mobsters and state apparatus is not that common as you say.
Anyway, even if it was far worst elsewhere, we as a Nation do not need, nor can afford it.
Not talking about will only perpetuate the phenomenon.
Serjik will never act willingly, since he is part of the same system, same mobster culture. (I do not need to mention his behavior for decades now..)
He will only, if he feels the heet...., and not talking about is not the way to do it.
Everybody in Yerevan, people who hate Levon and HHSh, are astonished and shocked.
The middle class officer corps is humiliated (this is not the reason that must distinguish this case, still it counts).
Justice must be forced, for us, as Nation, as part of the state-building, etc... moral, etc... but more so (and hence the link to this topic), because morale of the officers is an essential part of our army's combat readiness.
The act of the officer threatening to blow up that mobster nest called Sbantakar, is a sign that tells a lot, to anybody willing to see the reality, and not thru rose glasses....
If Obama has the right to wrap up a city like Damascus or Moscow without asking anything to anybody, this has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Can Obama kill a guy, a US citizen, before cameras, in the middle of DC, without critics? While NBC broadcasts the news???
If Serjik had the right to bomb Baku or Ankara, or a town called Kuala Lumpur (no harms to guys living there, never been there
), without consulting anybody, I would say, it would be bad for us, as a state, since in my opinion this is disfunction of a state, but yet, even if he would have killed 2000 guys there, it would be much an other story, and I would not cry fool on it...Do you see the difference?
If tomorrow, God forbid, we loose hundred of lives in a miscalculated, or interest guided foreign policy or military campain, you would be right, but as far as I know, the nephew of Rumspheld did not mob killed an innocent in the middle of town, filmed and reported, and yet UNPUNISHED... do you see the difference??
Of course there is mafia, there are robberies, killings, drug addicts, family murders, dishonesty, prostitutes, etc... in Armenia, just as there are in any country. But this kind of Impunity due to blatant merger between ill-educated mobsters and state apparatus is not that common as you say.
Anyway, even if it was far worst elsewhere, we as a Nation do not need, nor can afford it.
Not talking about will only perpetuate the phenomenon.
Serjik will never act willingly, since he is part of the same system, same mobster culture. (I do not need to mention his behavior for decades now..)
He will only, if he feels the heet...., and not talking about is not the way to do it.
Everybody in Yerevan, people who hate Levon and HHSh, are astonished and shocked.
The middle class officer corps is humiliated (this is not the reason that must distinguish this case, still it counts).
Justice must be forced, for us, as Nation, as part of the state-building, etc... moral, etc... but more so (and hence the link to this topic), because morale of the officers is an essential part of our army's combat readiness.
The act of the officer threatening to blow up that mobster nest called Sbantakar, is a sign that tells a lot, to anybody willing to see the reality, and not thru rose glasses....
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