Ataturk Was Homosexual

[Merv]

Re: Ataturk Was Homosexual

Turkish nutters...

Finns are Finno-Ugrics/Uralics. They are related linguistically to Estonians, Hungarians, Samoyeds, Mansi, Khanty, Mordvins, Erzyas, etc.

Turks are linguistically Altaic. They are related to Kazakhs, Turkmen, Azeris, Uzbeks, Uighurs, Mongols, and possibly Koreans, Tungus (Manchus), and Japanese.

There is no demonstrated connection between Uralic and Altaic. Perhaps some tribes did interface in ancient times, so Hungarian has some Turkic words (~10% I think), but this means absolutely nothing at all. Hungarian is also lexically 20% Slavic and 10% German and that doesn't mean anything regarding some Hungarian-Indo-European connection.

[Kanki]

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Because, they couldn't tell you!

Fins are not Turk "uluebatlı" !!! How do you think this idea!!!???

Turks-Azers-Kazakhs-Fins-Turkmens and Hungarians language are in Fin-Ugor language family! Huns came from Asia so Their language similer with other Central Asia groups(Turks,Kazaks,Uzbeks,Turkmens etc)...But originally Fin nation not come from Asia, only their language was affected.. In Fınland many original Asian minorities there! But Fin are not Turk!! "Asena" is in Turk's mitology which's meaning "female wolf- exturks believed all turkish race derived from that wolf"

don't link it with "Kalavela"

[Anonymouse]

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I can't understand a thing being posted in this thread. Maybe we need translators?

[KarotheGreat]

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I don't know clearly about Vikings and really ı'm also curious about that are they Turk.

Our history is so long,so old,because our nation migrated so many times from Central Asia(we are conqueror).
Because of it,ı can't tell u our all history about Fins-Ugors,this theme is connected with other themes,but ı can give some information:

Every nations have epics,for example Illıada,Odysseia,or Armenians epics,but old epics..Fins's epic "Kalavela" is so similar with our epics.Heroes r similar.Our "Asena",wolf,is in their "Kalavela".
Our famous "Turkish bats"(Hamam,ı suggest to try it ) r similar with their Finnish Saunas.
Our language family is relative.
Some traditions are similar:They don't like to have alcohol,they don't go in sauna both girls and boys.
Fins's origin is Asia,Turks's origin is Asia.

Assume that Finnish are not Turk or Turanian,despite it there are so many Tatars in there.

http://www.hunmagyar.org/ You can find more information from that link.But they use Turanian,it is more extensive Turk.So you may confuse.

I think Selpak wanted to degrade me to say that: "It can be his logic. "Britsh people are Armenians because their language families are same." Sounds funny, isn't it?"
It is not my topic!
I answer that question in this message,Selpak,after that wait my message for your comment ok?I want to talk with truths,not with bunks in my sentences.
The nations which are same language family are not completely relative.Fins's origin is Asia,Turks's origin is Asia.But Englishs's and Armenians's different.Ok??

What has mytholgie have to do with a peoples origan. And you know whey the fins can't be Turks because they are a Ancient Germanic/Norman tribe they have allways lived around that area of Scandinivea and
Melik is right go and read some sources that are not Turkish. Peace



Karo

[melikianAvak]

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Dude,ı don't speak nasty with people like you.Sorry but ı'm not an idiot,and ı won't response you with vulgar words because of my respect.See your mistake yourself:

The names which you said Turkmenler,Yorukler,Azeriler......are not ETHNIC groups...They are all TURK.Like that:You are a person.You have a body,and your body has parts:arms,legs,eye,head,ear,nose.....Than think TURK is a body,and Azeriler,Yorukler,Kırgızlar,Kazaklar etc.. are parts of this body,and this body includes Turkey Turks..Understand???In English there is no word to explain some Turkish words completely,like "Boy"."Boy" is a branch of race.Our race is "Turk Soyu",our "Boy" is "Oguz Boyu".

And 12. number is false:not Karapapaklar,right is Karakalpaklar

Ethnic groups don't have same race,same language,common history,sometimes same religion with us,Turks.Because of this you can say Armenians,Rums are ethnic group,but Kurds,Cechens,Arabs in Siirt,Antep etc..are not ethnic group.

If u in love with ethnic groups,ı can find so many groups in so many country,than ı can cut into parts that country,and than ı can exploit the small parts more eaiser than united country?You'll understand what I mean.

Selpak is right about you. Also I think you are the one who needs to read unbiased writings. As an example many central Asian countries are Turkic speaking but not Turks. An exception is Turkmen. It is not an insult when I tell you that or that you need to change some of your reading material. I am not knowledgeable about what is available in Turkey, but it seems like many many Turks have gained access to education and other writings that are not censored by the government.

Avak

[skhara]

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Finno-Ugric languages have nothing to do with Altaic. It was a theory put forward at one time, that is now rejected by most linguists. In fact, what is even referred to as "Uralic" is a theoretic relationship between Samoyedic and Finno-Ugric. Some claim that only Samoyedic is an Uralic language, and Finno-Ugric is its own seperate one. Samoyedic is spoken by eskimo looking folks of Russia near the North Pole.

[uluebatlı]

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I know there are blond Turks but in your post before this one you said fins are turks I want to know of you meant those guy's who are decendets of Vikings are Turks

Finish belong to Ural-Artal language family's Ural part. Turkish belong to Artal part. It can be his logic. "Britsh people are Armenians because their language families are same." Sounds funny, isn't it?

Btw, Urartus were speaking Caucasian language. I have to add it again.

I don't know clearly about Vikings and really ı'm also curious about that are they Turk.

Our history is so long,so old,because our nation migrated so many times from Central Asia(we are conqueror).
Because of it,ı can't tell u our all history about Fins-Ugors,this theme is connected with other themes,but ı can give some information:

Every nations have epics,for example Illıada,Odysseia,or Armenians epics,but old epics..Fins's epic "Kalavela" is so similar with our epics.Heroes r similar.Our "Asena",wolf,is in their "Kalavela".
Our famous "Turkish bats"(Hamam,ı suggest to try it ) r similar with their Finnish Saunas.
Our language family is relative.
Some traditions are similar:They don't like to have alcohol,they don't go in sauna both girls and boys.
Fins's origin is Asia,Turks's origin is Asia.

Assume that Finnish are not Turk or Turanian,despite it there are so many Tatars in there.

http://www.hunmagyar.org/ You can find more information from that link.But they use Turanian,it is more extensive Turk.So you may confuse.

I think Selpak wanted to degrade me to say that: "It can be his logic. "Britsh people are Armenians because their language families are same." Sounds funny, isn't it?"
It is not my topic!
I answer that question in this message,Selpak,after that wait my message for your comment ok?I want to talk with truths,not with bunks in my sentences.
The nations which are same language family are not completely relative.Fins's origin is Asia,Turks's origin is Asia.But Englishs's and Armenians's different.Ok??

[uluebatlı]

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Dude, sorry but you are an idiot. Compare a Circassian with a Kurd. You'll understand what I mean.

According to Prof. Dr. Peter Alford Andrews there are 47 different local ethnics in Turkey. 18 of them are Turkic: "1) Türkler, 2) Türkmenler, 3) Yörükler, 4) Azeriler, 5) Uygurlar, 6)Kırgızlar, 7) Kazaklar, 8) Özbekler, 9) Balkarlar, 10) Karaçaylar, 11) Kumuklar, 12) Karapapaklar, 13) Özbekler, 14) Tatarlar, 15) Kırım Tatarları, 16) Nogan Tatarları... "

I found some etnics pics in http://www.attiladurak.com/ . (choose projects than ebru) I can show more if you want.

Dude,ı don't speak nasty with people like you.Sorry but ı'm not an idiot,and ı won't response you with vulgar words because of my respect.See your mistake yourself:

The names which you said Turkmenler,Yorukler,Azeriler......are not ETHNIC groups...They are all TURK.Like that:You are a person.You have a body,and your body has parts:arms,legs,eye,head,ear,nose.....Than think TURK is a body,and Azeriler,Yorukler,Kırgızlar,Kazaklar etc.. are parts of this body,and this body includes Turkey Turks..Understand???In English there is no word to explain some Turkish words completely,like "Boy"."Boy" is a branch of race.Our race is "Turk Soyu",our "Boy" is "Oguz Boyu".

And 12. number is false:not Karapapaklar,right is Karakalpaklar

Ethnic groups don't have same race,same language,common history,sometimes same religion with us,Turks.Because of this you can say Armenians,Rums are ethnic group,but Kurds,Cechens,Arabs in Siirt,Antep etc..are not ethnic group.

If u in love with ethnic groups,ı can find so many groups in so many country,than ı can cut into parts that country,and than ı can exploit the small parts more eaiser than united country?You'll understand what I mean.

[uluebatlı]

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So what you are saying is there are no Kurds or armenian in Turkey they zre all ethnic Tukrs

No man,etnicity n nation is differrent from each other.Armenians in Turkey are our citizen(but ethnic=Armenian),but if u say like that:Kurds are not Turk, Kurds r in our nation,because they have lived with us since 1000 years,our history is same,our culture is same...And some Kurds who describes themselves "Zaza" or "Karakeceli" are Turk,but they don't know that they r Turk.Kurds are a clan of big Turk family.Understand??

[Selpak]

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Finish belong to Ural-Artal language family's Ural part. Turkish belong to Artal part. It can be his logic. "Britsh people are Armenians because their language families are same." Sounds funny, isn't it?

Btw, Urartus were speaking Caucasian language. I have to add it again.