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And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd
From the Trashcan:
Abulfazl Elçibay, Bu manin taleyimdir, Baku, 1992
Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Republic of “Azerbaijan”, History of Azerbaijan, Baku, 1958
Thomas Goltz, Letter from Eurasia: The Hidden Russian Hand, Foreign Policy, No. 92 (autumn, 1993), pp. 92-116
doi:10.2307/1149147
Nourida Ateshi, Nizami Gencevi ist unsere geistig-moralische Legitimation. Available online on Potsdam University website in PDF format
“International” Crisis Group report on Artsakh, 11 October 2005, http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=3740
Emma Bonino’s Turchia page
Note: the otherwise very interesting article presented below appears in the trashcan section solely because of the regurgitation of fables of “Northern Azerbaijan/Southern Azerbaijan”, 20% one million lies, and snow job of the sort:
Ilya Bourtman, Israel and Azerbaijan's Furtive Embrace, Middle East Quarterly, Summer 2006
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And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd
Works of 19th and 20th Century Historians Presented:
Vasili Vladimirovich Bartold, Sochineniia Moscow from 1963 to 1977
Vladimir Minorsky, Studies in Caucasian History, Articles about pan-Turkism, Atropatena
Joseph Markwart (Marquart), Die Chronologie der alttürkischen Inschriften, Leipzig, 1898, Eranshahr nach der Geographie des ps. Moses Xorenatsi, Berlin, 1901
Kamilla Vasilyevna Trever, Ocherki po istorii i kulture Kavkazkoi Albanii,… Moscow – Leningrad 1959
Igor Mikhailovich Diakonov, Istoriia Midii…, Moscow – Leningrad 1956
Nina Viktorovna Pigulevskaia (Pigulevskaya), Siriiskie istochniki VI v. o narodakh Kavkaza, V.D.I. N° 1, 1939, Siriiskie istochnik po istorii SSSR, Moscow – Leningrad 1941, Goroda Irana v rannem srednevekovie, Moscow – Leningrad 1956
Abbasghuli Agha Bakikhanov, Golestan e Eram
Mirza Jamal Javanshir Qarabaghi, Tarikh-e Qarabagh (History of Karabakh)
Igrar Aliev (Aliyev), Voprosi istorii Kavkazkoi Albanii, Baku, 1962, Ocherk istorii Atropateni, Baku, 1989
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And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd
Works of Islamic Scholars Presented:
Ahmad ibn Yahya Baladhuri, Futuh al Buldan (Conquests of Lands)
Abu Hanifa Ahmad ibn Dawood Dinwari, Akhbar ut Tawal
Ibn Wadih Ahmad ibn abu Ya’qub Ishaq ibn Jafar Isfahani, Tarikh Ya’qubi (Ya’qubi History), Al Buldan (Countries)
Abulqassem Ubeidullah ibn Abdullah ibn Khordadbeh, Al Masalek wal Mamalek (Roads and Countries)
Abu Jafar Muhammad ibn Jarir ibn Yazid ibn Khaled Amoli Tabari, Tarikh
Abu Abdullah Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Ishaq ibn Faqih Hamadani, Mokhtasar al Buldan (Concise Book of Lands)
Abul Hassan Ali ibn Hussein Massoudi, Muruj udh Dhahb wa Ma’aden ul Jowhar (The Meadows of Gold and the Mines of Gems), At Tanbih wal Ashraf
Abu Ishaq Ibrahim ibn Muhammad al Farsi al Istakhri, Masalek wa Mamalek (Roads and Countries), Sovar al Aqalim (Maps of Lands)
Abu Ali Ahmad ibn Omar ibn Rosteh, Al A’laq an Nafiseh
Abulqassem Muhammad ibn Hawqal, Sourat ul Ardh (The Map of the Earth)
Abu Abdullah Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Yussof Kharazmi (Khwarizmi), Mafatih ul Ulum
Sohrab (Ibn Srabion), Ajayeb ul Aqalim… (Wonders of Places…)
Anonymous, Hodud ul A’alam min al Mashreq ilal Maghreb
Shamseddin abu Abdullah Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn abu Bakr Bana’a Shami Muqaddasi, Ahsan at Taghasim fi Ma’rifat al Aghalim
(The Best Divisions for Knowledge of the Regions)
Abu Reyhan Muhammad ibn Ahmad Biruni, Athar ul Baghieh, Al Jamahir
Emadeddin Ismail ibn Muhammad ibn Omar Abulfada (Abul Fida), Taqwim al Buldan
Qudamah ibn Jafar Katib Baghdadi, Kitab ul Kharaj
Abu Ali Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Miskuyeh Razi, Tajarib al Umam (Experiences of Nations)
Abu Ubeid Abdullah al Bakri Qurtubi (of Cordoba), Al Massalek wal Mamalek
Abu Abdullah Muhammad ibn Muhammad Sharif Idrissi, Nuzhat ul Mushtaq fi Ikhtiraq al Afaq (The Delight for Who Desires to Journey through Different Horizons)
Muhammad ibn Mahmood ibn Ahmad Toosi, Aja’eb ul Makhluqat (Marvels of Creatures)
Izzeddin Ali ibn Athir, Al Kamel fit Tarikh (Complete History)
Abu Abdullah Yaqut ibn Abdullah Hamawi, Mo’jam al Buldan (Book of Countries)
Zachariah Emadeddin ibn Muhammad ibn Mahmood Qazvini, Athar al Bilad wa Akhbar al Ibad (Vestiges of Countries and Information on Men)
Zineddin Ibn Hamdollah Mostowfi Qazvini, Nuzhat ul Qulub (The Delight of Hearts)
Abu Zayd Abdurrahman ibn Muhammad ibn Khaldun
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And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd
Works of Greek and Roman Historians of Antiquity Presented:
Herodotus
Patrocles
Eratosthenes
Polibi, Historiae
Strabo, Geography
Pliny, Natural Geography
Plutarch, Lives
Dionysus
Cornelius Tacitus, Historia
Ptolemy, Geography
Arrian, Anabasis Alexandri
Dio Cassius, Roman History
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And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd
From Books and Articles:
Russian Encyclopedia, 1890s edition printed in St. Petersburg and Leipzig
Soviet Encyclopedia, printed in Moscow in 1960
Movses Kaghankatouatsi, Patmutioun Aghuanits Ashkhari (History of Aghvank), written in the 7th century AD in Grabar, Old Armenian, available online in Grabar on Armenian Digital Library
Mikael Varandian, History of Dashnaktsoutioun, published in two volumes in Tehran, 1981; originally published in 1931
Raffi (Hagop Melik Hagopian 1835-1888), Khamsaii Melikoutiounner (in Armenian), also available in Persian, trans.: Ara Ter Stepanian, Pardis Danesh, Tehran, 2006
Pavstos Buzand, History of Armenia, written in the 5th century AD in Grabar, Old Armenian, also available in Persian, trans.: Garon Sarkissian, Nairi, Tehran, 2004
Zarevand (Zaven & Vartuhi Naalbandian), The Myth of Pan-Turanism (in Armenian), 1926, also published in Russian 1930, in English 1971, in French 1989, in Persian, Binesh/Parvin, 1990 (trans.: Mohammad Reza Zargar, from French)
Hrach Stepanian, An Introduction on Pan-Turkism (in Persian), Arax, Tehran, 2005
Soviet Armenian Encyclopedia (in 13 volumes), Yerevan, volumes published consecutively from 1974 to 1987 (several volumes were consulted)
Viscount Bryce, The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire 1915-16, Documents presented to Viscount Grey of Fallodon, Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (documents compiled by Arnold J. Toynbee) also available online
Henry I Morgenthau, Ambassador Morgenthau's Story, Garden City New York Doubleday, Page & Company, 1918
Archives of Alik Armenian Daily, Tehran, also available online
Luigi Villari, Fire and Sword in the Caucasus, London, T. Fisher Unwin, Adelphi Terrace, 1906 (available online on armenianhouse.org)
Christopher J. Walker, Armenia, the Survival of a Nation, 1980, revised edition first published in England in 1990, Chatham, Kent, ISBN 0-415-04684-X, also available online in HTML, Word Doc., and PDF formats
N. S. Sipaan, De halve maan boven Ararat, Stubeg, Hoogezand, Nederland, 1993
Ahmad Kassravi, The Unknown Kings (in Persian), Tehran, 1956
Ahmad Kassravi, Azari, the Ancient Language of Azarbaijan (in Persian), also available online in PDF format
Enayatollah Reza, Aran, from Ancient Times to the Beginning of Mongol Era (in Persian), Markaze Asnad va Tarikhe Diplomacy, Tehran, 2001
Enayatollah Reza, How Aran was Renamed into Azerbaijan (in Persian), available online in PDF format
Poems from Molavi (Masnavi), Nezami Ganjavi, Khaghani, mostly also available online in original Persian in HTML and PDF formats
For the ongoing policy of distorting facts on Christian population data and place name changes throughout the Ottoman era see Lusine Sahakyan’s 2007 book “The results of forceful Islamization of the Armenians in Ottoman Empire” in Armenian
Kemal Yalçin, Seninle Güler Yüregim, 2000 (in Turkish). Persian trans. from the 2003 Armenian trans. by Sedik Davitian, Siamak Book, Tehran, 2007
Theodore Karasik (Ph.D. Student, UCLA History Department), “Bakinskaia Guberniia Petroleum Industry During Early Industrialization, 1850-1880”, Summer 1997
Clifford Shack, The Armenian & Jewish Genocide Project that Eliminated the Ethnic Conflict Along the Oil Transport Route From Baku to the Suez Canal Region (available online)
Clifford Shack, The Rothschilds, Winston Churchill and the “Final Solution”, (available online)
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And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd
Selected References and Bibliography
Sources and links for further research
From the Internet:
Artsakh, Legal Aspects (pdf)
Barbaric destruction of Jugha cemetery (video)
Destruction of Armenian Khachkars in Old Jugha (Nakhijevan)
Jugha cemetery brochure (pdf)
Artsakh conflict
“Azeri” thugs disembowel pregnant Armenian women in Sumgait
Incomplete list of innocent victims of Sumgait
“Azeri” pogroms against Armenians
Maragha genocidal act
Maragha genocidal act 2
Gandzak (Kirovabad) - 1988: Facts and Events
The Slaughter of Gurgen Markarian
Khojaly hoax exposed
Khojaly hoax exposed 2
Khojaly hoax fact sheet (pdf)
Artsakh conflict Chronology of events and facts since 1988 (pdf)
The 20% “occupied “Azeri” territory”; myth and one million refugees lie exposed (pdf)
A-52-85 Letter from Permanent Mission of Armenia on Human Rights
From Nonsense to Nationhood: a Dangerous Trajectory of “Azerbaijani” Nationalism
Rewriting History: Recent Azeri Alterations of Primary Sources Dealing with Karabakh by George A. Bournoutian
Petition from the Armenians of Mountainous Karabakh to Prime Minister Nikita Khrushchev
Wilson for Armenia, info concerning the Wilsonian Armenia
Azeri TV broadcasts full interview with Chechen commander
Azerbaijani Links to Osama Bin Laden
Global Market Brief: The Geopolitics of Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan
Iran Chamber Society, mainly the History section
Alik Armenian Daily, Tehran
Peter Dale Scott, Al Qaeda, US Oil Companies, and Central Asia (pdf)
Translation of Avesta and Zoroastrian texts including the Kartir inscription
The Dejan Lučić; website
International Crisis Group members
Emma Bonino’s Turchia page
Zbigniew Brzezinski and U.S. - Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce, 1212 Potomac Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20007
Hijri and Gregorian dates converter
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And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd
Conclusion
“Armenia is a fictitious state created on Azerbaijani land ...”
…said the defunct Communist party leader and Politburo member turned pan-Turkist, self-imposed President of the Republic of fake “Azerbaijan”, Heydar Aliev on 26 March 1998, as part of his “Decree of the President of “Azerbaijan” on the “Genocide!!!” of the “Azeris””. Needless to say he did not feel the need to produce a single proof for these fecal ejaculations. There’s just almost nothing wrong with this statement. In fact it would be perfectly correct if it started with “Azerbaijan” and ended with “Armenian land”. Turkish accounts of history are always 180 degrees opposite to the truth.
Throughout this exposé it has been clearly shown that the belligerent, deceitfully counterfeited pan-Turkist pseudo state of fake “Azerbaijan” has engaged in a fanatical, all encompassing history falsification and fairytale fabrication to justify its illegal presence and genocidal existence on behalf of the indigenous people of the southeastern flank of the Armenian Highland, wrongly renamed into “Southern Caucasus” by the Turkophile West or “Transcaucasus” by the not seldom double dealing Russians, just as in the case of bogus “Azerbaijan’s” progenitor where the western parts of Armenian Highland have been desecrated into “Eastern Anatolia”.
According to these murderous hordes turned “modern”, “democratic”, “secular” and “European”, an Armenia did not exist anywhere in Armenian Highland, because in the opposite case, their miserable existence and the disappearance of the indigenous people who lived there from the beginning of human history until the 20th century would raise questions. What else remains to be said of the eastern extension of Turkey whose name is fake, whose history is fake, whose geography is fake, whose nationality is fake, whose culture is fake, whose heritage is fake, whose genocide is fake, whose monuments are fake, whose ancestors are fake, whose royal dynasties are fake, whose heroes are fake, whose poets are fake, whose philosophers, etc., are fake?
For a sham like fake “Azerbaijan”, it is an extraordinary feat that this robber of other peoples’ name, history, geography, nationality, culture, heritage, genocide, monuments, ancestors, royal dynasties, heroes, poets, philosophers, etc., they have fooled the “civilized” world into accepting them as part of the UN, the Council of Europe and soon NATO, despite its bloody and expansionist, less than 90 years history (as of April 2008). This is an accomplishment never heard of in human history, exactly like a nation called “Azeri”.
Delving into treasures left for us and those to come, from the dawn of recorded history, by historians of any corner of the world who have written about the region one cannot conclude but:
- I. Never and in no historical period since the continents have accepted the present form and human societies have developed on this planet, has there ever existed a country called “Azerbaijan” north of the Arax River.
- II. Azarbaijan (Atrpatakan) has always been to the south of the Arax River, even in those periods when the borders of Aghvank (Aran/Aluania), following the whims of the rulers of the region, sometimes reached the Arax. Generally the River Kur has been cited as the southern and western border of Aghvank with Armenia.
- III. Regardless of the borders of Aghvank (Aran/Aluania), it’s interesting that, like the ancient Greek and Roman authors, almost all Islamic historians and geographers have unequivocally considered Aghvank part of Armenia. This is proof that long before Turkic invasions, the Aghvans (people of Aran) had already assimilated or in the process of assimilation with the Armenians who they were historically related to.
- IV. Nowhere and in no historical document is there a word about a nation called “Azeri”. While the Persian dialect of the people of the real Azarbaijan (Atrpatakan) has been called Pahlavi Azari or Irani Azari by some Islamic historians, never has the term ever been applied to a nation before the end of the 1930s, about two decades after the counterfeiting of fake “Azerbaijan”.
- V. A language derived from Turkish called “Azeri” does not exist. Turks of the Caucasus speak a dialect of Turkish.
- VI. As a result of Turkic domination in the region, the people of the real Azarbaijan (Atrpatakan) south of the Arax River have gradually lost their native Pahlavi language, however, they are Turkish speaking Iranians and cannot be considered Turks. The obvious reason that backs this claim is that their affinity is to Iran and not to pan-Turkism.
- VII. The people of Aghvank (Aran/Aluania) living to the north and the people of Azarbaijan (Atrpatakan) living to the south of the Arax River have always been two separate, unrelated entities throughout history in racial, linguistic, religious, cultural and national terms.
- VIII. Fact III above alone pulverizes Heydar Aliev’s delirium, in case one would be so uninformed to believe the “Azeris” were the descendants of what they fallaciously and maliciously call “Albanians” (Aghvans), which is of course total baloney. Not only have they no idea of the language, customs, religion, history and culture of the people of Aghvank, they do not show an iota of affinity with this long extinct Christian nation and would exterminate them with sadistic pleasure had they survived until the twentieth century.
- IX. Their claim to be of so-called “Albanian” (Aghvan) descent faded totally when instead of keeping the name of the nation they pretend to be their origins, these leftovers of Oghuz invaders that lived under a tribal clan system up to and well after the counterfeiting of their fabricated “nation” called themselves “Azeri”, nonexistent in human history.
Probably no one says it more appropriately than the great 20th century Azarbaijani Iranian historian, Ahmad Kassravi Tabrizi (Kasravi), not without a dose of humor: “It’s astonishing that they have given the name Azerbaijan to what used to be Aran… Not that this would be to the detriment of Azarbayegan (the real Azarbaijan H.) but because our Arani brothers have totally turned their backs on their history and heritage at the dawn of their free and independent life. Such a stupefying phenomenon has no precedence in history.” (Ahmad Kassravi, The Unknown Kings, page 265.)
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- I. Never and in no historical period since the continents have accepted the present form and human societies have developed on this planet, has there ever existed a country called “Azerbaijan” north of the Arax River.
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And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd
Why Did the Aghvans Disappear?
Strabo has reported the existence of 26 ethnicities with their own kingdoms and languages in Aghvank. The Islamic historians have also mentioned the diversity of the languages of the region. It seems that the Aghvans were the largest group of them all. Examining all the races and tribes who ever lived in Aghvank in detail is not the goal of the present subject, save it is noteworthy that scholars have counted Mukhoi (Mughan according to some), Casps, Gels (Gils), Leks, Gargars, Udins (Utis), Silvis, Lupins, Chilbs, Shichbs, Gardman, Olond, Lahij, Egersuans, Balasich, Khechmataks, Tavaspars, Poskhs, Tats, Talishes, Gluars, Gats, Budugs, Khinalugs, Khibivans, Khrsans, Kriz, Pukuans, among others as ethnicities who live or once lived in the region loosely referred to as Aghvank or Caucasus Albania. Interestingly not a single one of these has ever been linked in any way to Turks while a number of them such as Talishes, Tats and Lahijis are certainly of Iranian origin.
This enormous diversity is the main reason given for the extinction of the Aghvans. There was never a strong cultural, linguistic or religious link to bind all these ethnicities together as an accomplished nation-state. This also explains why even in the presence of an alphabet, conceived by the Armenian inventor of Armenian and Georgian alphabets, Mesrop Mashtots, the Aghvans were unable to withstand the calamities visited upon them in the shape of invasions of nomadic tribes starting with the Arabs and going on with the centuries long Turkic incursions. It is believed that parts of these were forced into Islam at the time of the Arabs and the rest assimilated with the Armenians.
When he was asked how the Aghvans who had a writing system did not survive, Bartold cited Kharazmis as another nation with written culture who also disappeared from the scene of history. Trever believes that the dispute between the followers of Armenian and Georgian Church in Aghvank in the seventh century drove the Aghvan alphabet, which was only created a couple of centuries before, into a corner. Each sect chose to use the writing system of the respective church instead of the Aghvan alphabet. The Arab invasion that followed shortly lessened the chances of the survival of the written Aghvan culture.
The relatively stable short periods of the Aranshahs had also to deal with the disputes between the kingdoms which led to the final dissolution of Aghvank as a nation and a state. Foreign occupiers constantly usurped the rule of the region. The Arab Mazidi dynasty who later called themselves Shirvanshahs, ruled over the northeastern part of Aghvank, which became known as Shirvan, from the latter 9th to the early 11th century. They were able to extend their rule over Shamakhi, Sheki and Qabalah. The Salarian rulers of Gilan took over Shirvan and Darband (Derbend) then came the Khazars and the Shaddadians. Later came the Turks and despite desperate attempts to muster up as much help as they could, the resistance of these local rulers could not hold back the Turkish hordes which finally imposed the Oghuz domination in the region that had already stopped being what was known as the Aghvanits Ashkhar, the land of the Aluanians. The Mongol invasions of later centuries (1220s AD) into the region followed by numerous other gangs of Turco-Tatar plunderers warped the ethnic picture of Aghvank to a higher degree, divided the region into khanates (little kingdoms ruled by a khan) and slowly but surely this ancient country ceased to exist.
A direct metamorphosis of all the Aghvan ethnicities into Turks is out of the question, thus, the claim that the Aghvans were the ancestors of the “Azeris” is nonsense. Turks should be asked how on earth all the Christian Aghvans suddenly became Turks while their church was closely related to that of the Armenians which even appointed the Catholicos of the Aghvans. It has already been noted that the application of the blanket fake term “Azeri” to all the inhabitants of fake “Azerbaijan”, not unlike the Kemalist genocidal law of calling all the inhabitants of Turkey Turks, was contrived to erase the identities of the ethnicities still living in the region. In both cases, the Turkic element was a minority but in this cunning manner and the discriminatory measures employed against these non-Turkic peoples - by clever abuse of the fertile poisonous Bolshevik ground in the “Azeri” case - such as depriving them of the study of their languages, the practice of their religions, destruction of their cultural heritage, has weakened them to the benefit of the Turks.
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