Armenia and the information war

[ninetoyadome]

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Wtf? It was the reverse as in migration from Azerbajian to Armenia. *hits head* This part definitely is one of the most stupid statements Azeri's have ever made.

i know, its pretty sad that they believe in western azerbaijan. 1.5 million azeris deported out of Armenia, 1 million deported from Artsakh
i love the evidence she shows for those deportations or for the azeri cities which Armenians changed the names to Armenian names.
She actually claims that 1.5 million azeris should return to Armenia and that is what is hampering the peace process.
For some reason they ignore the fact that azerbaijan was created in 1918.

Vasily Bartold was a Russian and Soviet historian who succeeded Wilhelm Radloff as the greatest authority in the field of Turcology. His contributions to the understanding of the medieval culture of Central Asia are particularly valuable, earning him the moniker of the "Gibbon of Turkestan". He said:
“The name “Azerbaijan” for the Republic of Azerbaijan (Soviet Azerbaijan) was selected on the assumption that the stationing of such as republic would lead to that entity Iranian to become one…this is the reason why the name “Azerbaijan” was selected (for Arran)…anytime when it is necessary to select a name that refers to the territory of the Republic of Azerbaijan, we should/can select the name Arran…”

[ashot24]

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History repeats itself, and I am sure that the lands will someday be returned to first owners - the Turks," she said.

Yeah, history repeats itself, the problem with the statement is that in their case there is no history to be repeated.

[ashot24]

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«Ժամանակ». Welcome to Ղարաբաղ
10:54 • 09.04.10


Մեր հավաստի տեղեկություններով՝ այսօր վարչապետ Տիգրան Սարգսյանը և Պնախարար Սեյրան Օհանյանը մեկնելու են Ղարաբաղ։ Վերջիններս, ԼՂՀ ՊԲ հրամանատար Մովսես Հակոբյանի ուղեկցությամբ, այցելելու են ԼՂՀ ՊԲ 2-րդ պաշտպանական շրջան, որի մեջ, ի դեպ, մտնում է նաև ազատագրված տարածքներից Աղդամը։ Օհանյանն ու Սարգսյանը այցելելու են զորամասեր, դիտելու են մինիզորավարժություններ։ Թե որն է Օհանյանի և Սարգսյանի ղարաբաղյան ճանապարհորդության իրական նպատակը՝ առայժմ հայտնի չէ։

http://tert.am/am/news/2010/04/09/zhamanak/

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Much is being talked about the probability of a breakthrough in Karabakh after Sargsyan-Erdogan meeting in the US. There's something going on here indeed...

[ashot24]

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NKR independence is off question: Ilham Aliyev
11:26 / 04/09/2010


Independence of Nagorno-Karabakh is not even the point of issue and mediators’ proposals do not contain clause providing for it, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev speaking at the Estonian Foreign Ministry.

“In many cases Armenians refer to principle of self-determination. It is definitely important principle of international law, however Armenians are already self-determined, as have an independent Armenian state. According to this logic, Armenians can self-determine anywhere they live? How many Armenian states we will have then?” Aliyev stated.

According to him, Azerbaijan will always oppose this. “The sooner Armenian side realizes it, the better for them and for us. Thus, the issue will be settled shortly and peace can be established in the South Caucasus.”

“Those presently residing in Nagorno-Karabakh and Azerbaijanis who will definitely return there should live together based on security guarantees within sovereign Azerbaijani state with a high status of autonomy it has. This stance fully conforms to norms of international law, meanwhile reflecting mediators’ efforts and their proposals presented to each side,” Azerbaijani President noted.

He expressed hope that mediators’ activities will yield tangible results in the near future. “In particular, now it is Armenia’s turn to accept mediators’ last proposal or not. If they do, I think that negotiation process should be reconsidered and new stage to be started,” he noted.

http://news.am/en/news/18623.html

[ashot24]

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Between De Facto and De Jure: Karabakh’s withdrawal from Azerbaijan was legally impeccable

Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan, twice within the past several days, has spoken about legal prerequisites for the disintegration of former states, members of the United Nations Organization, the USSR and Yugoslavia.

In his interview with EuroNews, a leading pan-European television news channel, last month President Sargsyan put forward several Karabakh-related questions:

“Why did the international community welcome the collapse of the USSR? Why did it not state that Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan were parts of the USSR? And why then in the case with Karabakh the international community keeps insisting that it is still part of Azerbaijan. Doesn’t it look illogical to you?”.

Sargsyan picked the right time for raising that issue: last week marked the 20th anniversary since an event the international community prefers not to remember about just yet.

On April 3, 1990, the USSR Supreme Council passed a law “On the order of solving issues related to the withdrawal of Soviet states from the USSR”, giving a legal ground for the formation of new independent states.

All that was happening against the background of the overall crash of the socialist regime. One after another monopolist foundations of communist parties in Eastern European countries were falling apart, and later, in accordance with the chronological time period of fight “for democracy”, the process was adjusted to the now famous formula of “Poland – 10 years, Hungary – 10 months, Eastern Germany – 10 weeks, Czechoslovakia – 10 days, Romania – 10 hours.”

And nonetheless, the law passed two decades ago is of extreme significance. Despite the existence of powerful political movements on the territory of the USSR the goals and requirements proclaimed by them had been considered to be anti-Constitutional before the adoption of that law, and the leaders of those movements were persecuted and condemned.

And only that law passed on April 3 became an adequate assessment of the situation in the country and regulated the order of withdrawal from the disintegrating Soviet Union.

The law, granting Soviet Union states the possibility to freely and legally declare their independence, read: “A Soviet Republic’s decision to withdraw from the USSR is made by the peoples’ free will through a referendum. The decision on the referendum is made by a Soviet Republic’s Supreme Council upon its own initiative and/or demand, signed by one tenth of USSR citizens permanently residing on its territory”.

The organized collapse of the Soviet Union took place based on the above stated regulation of that highly important law, which also envisaged withdrawal of autonomous units from Socialist Republics.

Another noteworthy fact is that the Azerbaijani SSR, when declaring its independence based on that very law, did not have the right to unilaterally spread its political influence on the territory of the then Autonomous Region of Nagorno Karabakh. Particularly, according to that law, Azerbaijan had no authority to declare independence on all of its Soviet terriroty including autonomous regions.

It has been repeatedly reported that the Armenian population of Nagorno Karabakh impeccably took all the required legal steps related to its withdrawal from the Azerbaijani SSR.

And if the international community does not question the political and legal motivation of the sovereignty of 15 former Soviet Republics, it does not have the right to doubt the validity of NKR’s right to existence.

That’s exactly what the Armenian president is referring to in his interview, and that is how he decided to “celebrate” the 20th anniversary of that Soviet law.

http://armenianow.com/commentary/analysis/22182/karabakh_right_to_independence_soviet_union_disintegration

[ninetoyadome]

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azeris are really worried about us

Today.Az » From the Region » Construction of second nuclear power plant in Armenia increases risk for the whole region

06 April 2010 [12:33] - Today.Az



The upcoming construction of a second nuclear power plant in Armenia increases the risk for the region, the director of the center for geo-environmental monitoring of the Ministry of Ecology and Natural Resources of Azerbaijan Ali Aliyev said.

In late 2008, the government of Armenia has agreed to build a new nuclear power plant (NPP). In late 2010 - early 2011 it is expected to start construction of a new block of the Armenian nuclear power plant with a capacity of 1000 MW.

According to seismological-statistical analysis, destructive and catastrophic earthquakes (the death of more than 500,000 people) have repeatedly occurred in the territory of current Armenia over the historical period, which led to total destruction of cities and settlements (in 735 in Basarkechar area, 10 points - 10,000 people died, in 854, 869, 893 years in Irevan region, 10 points - 224,000 people died, in 1679 in Garney, 9 points - 10,000 died, in 1827 in Chahkadzor, 9 points, in 1840, Alaghez, 10 points - 2,000 died, in 1926, Gyumri, 8.5 points - 350 died, in 1988, in Hamamly (Spitak), 10 points - 25-50,000 people died).

According to Aliyev, the new nuclear power plant, which is planned to be constructed, contains an element of threat. "The waste disposal of currently operating nuclear power plant Metsamor is implemented in the occupied territories of Azerbaijan, because for the transportation of such waste through the territory of other countries, a special permit of these countries is required," said the center's director.

According to him, the lack of a suitable site for the destruction of industrial waste of Metsamor plant poses a serious threat to the ecology of the region and people's lives.

"The main thing is that the construction of nuclear power is not consistent with the standards of seismically sustainable construction and, and in general, the place for nuclear power is actually wrong, without considering the geological and tectonic and seismic conditions of the region," he said.

According to Aliyev, the operation of nuclear power plants that does not meet modern requirements in this region, differing with its seismic activity is inadmissible.

The Razdan region, evaluated as 7-point zone, should actually be rated as a 9-point zone. But this was not taken into account when building nuclear power plants. In the new seismic zoning map prepared by the Armenian specialists after the earthquake in Spitak, Metsamor is assigned to the 8-9-point zone. But during the construction of the same plant, an earthquake in seven or eight points was assigned for this area. If to also take into account the violations that may occur during construction, the plant will not be able to resist the eight-nine-point earthquake.

According to Aliyev, another important issue is the destruction of industrial waste plant, because the destruction of wastes of Metsamor is not implemented properly. "Formerly, the destruction of these wastes was implemented in special burial grounds for radioactive waste in the north of the former USSR. But now, because of the impossibility of this and the high costs, Armenia implements the destruction of wastes in an unacceptable form. Waste discharged into the Araz River now lead to the destruction of the living world of the Caspian Sea," said Aliyev.


/Trend/

URL: http://www.today.az/news/regions/65494.html

[Federate]

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azeris are really worried about us

Today.Az » From the Region » Construction of second nuclear power plant in Armenia increases risk for the whole region

06 April 2010 [12:33] - Today.Az

The whole reason why a second NPP is being built is FOR security, how do these claims make any sense? Metsamor, which is outdated and unsafe, survived an earthquake and continues to operate at half capacity.

The new NPP will be the latest technology which is much safer and the old one will be shut down. Idiots.

[ninetoyadome]

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The whole reason why a second NPP is being built is FOR security, how do these claims make any sense? Metsamor, which is outdated and unsafe, survived an earthquake and continues to operate at half capacity.

The new NPP will be the latest technology which is much safer and the old one will be shut down. Idiots.

You know why its a threat to the whole region? Because they dont want Armenia to have anything.

[Federate]

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You know why its a threat to the whole region? Because they dont want Armenia to have anything.

Of course. Nuclear energy is direct competition and alternative to their natural gas and oil industry. We will not only power Armenia with this new NPP but have enough reserves to sell it to Georgia, Iran and even Turkey.

[hipeter924]

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The whole reason why a second NPP is being built is FOR security, how do these claims make any sense? Metsamor, which is outdated and unsafe, survived an earthquake and continues to operate at half capacity.

The new NPP will be the latest technology which is much safer and the old one will be shut down. Idiots.

When this was brought up last time I thought it right to mention that Japan is on a risk zone greater than Armenia, yet it has many nuclear power plants and none have exploded. Found a great article with a brief google search, if you follow the link to the article it talks more about how nuclear power plants are safe in earthquakes.

Nuclear Power Plants and Earthquakes

(February 2010)

......Earthquakes have previously occurred in the vicinity of a number of Japanese and other power reactors without adverse effect.

In two decades to 2004, no Japanese reactor had been tripped by the seismic detectors. In those cases where the plant automatically shutdown ("tripped") as a safety precaution, it was because of the impact of the earthquake on the operating characteristics of the plant.

In November 1993, a magnitude 5.8 earthquake in northeast Honshu produced a ground acceleration of 121 Gal at Tohuku's Onagawa-1 power reactor (497 MWe, BWR), located 30 km from the epicentre. The design conditions for the S1 and S2 events at the site were 250 and 375 Gal respectively and the reactor was set to trip at a measured peak ground acceleration (PGA) of 200 Gal. In fact it tripped at a lower level due to variations in the neutron flux outside the set parameters.

In May 2003 a magnitude 7.1 earthquake further from the same Onagawa plant produced ground acceleration of 225 Gal which tripped unit 3 (units 1 & 2 were not operating).

In October 2004 a magnitude 6.8 earthquake in Niigata Prefecture 250 km north of Tokyo had no effect on the nearby Kashiwazaki Kariwa nuclear plant, but a magnitude 5.2 quake there two weeks later caused one of the reactors - unit 7 -to trip.

In March 2005 a magnitude 7.0 earthquake in northern Kyushu did not affect the nearby Genkai and Sendai nuclear plants, nor Shimane and Ikata.

The magnitude 7.8 earthquake off the coast of Hokkaido in July 1993, had no effect on nuclear facilities. Tomari 1 and 2 reactors (550 MWe, PWRs), located 95 km from the epicentre, continued normal operation.

In December 1994, a magnitude 7.5 earthquake struck northern Japan but caused no damage to the 11 boiling water reactors or the nuclear fuel facilities in the vicinity. All operated normally.

Reactors of both western and Soviet design have been subjected to major seismic activity in North America and Europe without damage. California's power reactors, San Onofre 2 and 3 (1,070 and 1,080 MWe, PWRs) and Diablo Canyon 1 and 2 (1,073 MWe and 1,087 MWe, PWRs) continued to operate normally during the 6.6 magnitude earthquake in January 1994. San Onofre, the closer station, was about 112 km from the epicentre.

In December 1988, a magnitude 6.9 earthquake, resulting in the deaths of at least 25,000 people, occurred in northwestern Armenia. It was felt at the two-unit Armenian nuclear power station located approximately 75 km south of the epicentre, but both Soviet-designed PWRs operated normally and no damage was reported. This was the first Russian nuclear power plant specifically adapted for seismic areas, and it started operating in 1976.

In May 2008 a magnitude 7.9 earthquake affected southwestern Sichuan province in central China. The main nuclear facilities affected were military ones, apparently without any radioactive releases. About 250 km from the epicentre the Yibin fuel fabrication plant which produces both power reactor and research reactor fuel assemblies was undamaged. China's power reactors were all at least 900 km from the epicentre.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf18.html