Armenia and the information war

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Azerbaijani official: U.N. resolution on occupation of Azerbaijan's Kalbajar region has not yet fulfilled
02.04.2010 13:27


Azerbaijan, Baku, Apr. 2 / Trend A.Huseynbala /

The U.N. resolution No. 822 on the occupation of Azerbaijan's Kalbajar region has not yet fulfilled, Azerbaijani Parliamentary Speaker Ogtay Asadov said at today's meeting.

Today, Azerbaijan marks the 17th anniversary of the occupation of Azerbaijan's Kalbajar region by the Armenian armed forces. The region was captured Apr.2, 1993, after the fighting, which lasted for several days. After the region's occupation, the U.N. Security Council adopted a resolution demanding the immediate release of the Kalbajar and other occupied areas of Azerbaijan. But so far, Armenia has not fulfilled the resolution.

Asadov said the Kalbajar region will be liberated as a result of Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev's resolute policy.

"I believe we mark the anniversary of Kalbajar's occupation for the last time," he said.


Lol they thought this resolution would do something?

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Azerbaijani official: U.N. resolution on occupation of Azerbaijan's Kalbajar region has not yet fulfilled
02.04.2010 13:27


Azerbaijan, Baku, Apr. 2 / Trend A.Huseynbala /

The U.N. resolution No. 822 on the occupation of Azerbaijan's Kalbajar region has not yet fulfilled, Azerbaijani Parliamentary Speaker Ogtay Asadov said at today's meeting.

Today, Azerbaijan marks the 17th anniversary of the occupation of Azerbaijan's Kalbajar region by the Armenian armed forces. The region was captured Apr.2, 1993, after the fighting, which lasted for several days. After the region's occupation, the U.N. Security Council adopted a resolution demanding the immediate release of the Kalbajar and other occupied areas of Azerbaijan. But so far, Armenia has not fulfilled the resolution.

Asadov said the Kalbajar region will be liberated as a result of Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev's resolute policy.

"I believe we mark the anniversary of Kalbajar's occupation for the last time," he said.


Lol they thought this resolution would do something?

I'm starting to believe they really don't know that those resolutions are non-binding, or they are playing fool.

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I'm starting to believe they really don't know that those resolutions are non-binding, or they are playing fool.

i dont think there playing a fool, i mean look at what they keep claiming

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Armenia hands over Azerbaijani citizens' bodies killed by its armed forces
03.04.2010 13:16


Azerbaijan, Baku, April 3 / Trend K. Zarbaliyeva /

Bodies of Azerbaijani citizens killed by Armenian armed forces have been brought to Sadarak region in Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic April 3, at 12:00 a.m, the International Committee of the Red Cross spokeswoman in Baku Gulnaz Guliyeva said.

Residents of the Gazakh region - Huseynov Hasan Husein oglu and Namazov Sakit Sharif oglu passed from the Gazakh region to the territory of Armenia and were killed by Armenian armed forces March 2-3.

Bodies have been handed over with the assistance of the International Committee of the Red Cross.

Azerbaijani citizen, who is held hostage by the Armenian side, will be handed over to the Azerbaijani side April 7, Sailov said. He said that the name of a hostage to be released is still unknown.

At present, the Armenian side holds two Azerbaijani captives and one hostage.

The conflict between the two South Caucasus countries began in 1988 when Armenia made territorial claims against Azerbaijan. Armenian armed forces have occupied 20 percent of Azerbaijan since 1992, including the Nagorno-Karabakh region and 7 surrounding districts. Azerbaijan and Armenia signed a ceasefire agreement in 1994.

The co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group - Russia, France, and the U.S. - are currently holding the peace negotiations.

Armenia has not yet implemented the U.N. Security Council's resolutions on the liberation of the Nagorno-Karabakh region and the occupied territories.

they dont say they were soldiers, they claim they were citizens who crossed the border and were killed. These guys lie so much.

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As for the UN its got a lot of ego to suggest its morally better than Armenia.

The real flag of the United Nations:



For all the victims of the United Nation's.

Classic United Nations



I am waiting for this day.

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Azerbaijanis Remember March 31: DOTCOM 2010 Mojo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoQrSaVQG-U&feature=player_embedded

American students are on a trip in Azerbaijan. The teacher says ''In America we've seen very little information about the Azerbaijani genocide or the Armenian genocides''. Haha, what a laugh.

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Interview with Der Spiegel: Armenia’s President Serzh Sargsyan about historical justice

Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan’s has spoken to Der Spiegel paper; here is the interview.

Der Spiegel: Referring to the 1915 happenings, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in his interview with Der Spiegel that ‘the Genocide against Armenians is out of the question.’ Why your neighboring nation can’t accept its past?

Serzh Sargsyan: Well, recently another statement has been made, that ‘Turks couldn’t commit Genocide, while the Turkish history is clear and bright like the sun.’ Turks are against branding the 1915 massacres as Genocide; however, this is not the issue to be solved by Ankara.

Der Spiegel: Erdogan now is even threatening to expel Armenians, who illegally live in Turkey.

Serzh Sargsyan: Such kind of unacceptable statements remind us of the Genocide. Unfortunately, I am not actually surprised that Turkish officials make the statements of that kind.

Der Spiegel: What position should the international community show?

Serzh Sargsyan: It should respond to this; the U.S., Europe, Germany and other countries, involved in Armenia-Turkey reconciliation should respond and show their position in open daylight. If all the nations recognized the 1915 Genocide, then neither statement by Turks would have been made. However, protests by numerous youth activists against the statement are encouraging. There is a new generation there, whose opinion must be looked up to by the political authorities.

Der Spiegel: Turkey accuses you of strong position against the commission of historians. Why are you against it?

Serzh Sargsyan: How the commission may work neutrally, if it is a criminal case to use g-word in Turkey, and one can even be brought to a trial for using Genocide-word. It’s is important to Ankara to stretch the solution-making process; and when the governments of certain nations are voting over the Resolution on Genocide, Turkey may say – don’t be in the way; look, our historians are studying the issue. The creation of the commission would mean the questioning the Genocide. It is unacceptable.

Der Spiegel: Why the issue of recognition of the 1915 Genocide is so important to Armenia now, after 95 years?

Serzh Sargsyan: This is an issue of historical justice and issue of Armenia’s security; the best way to prevent such kind of crimes is its clear condemnation.

Der Spiegel: You can see Ararat, symbol of Armenia, through your cabinet’s window. The Ararat Mountain is now on Turkey’s territory; Turkey is afraid of territorial claims and compensations. Do you want to bring Ararat back?

Serzh Sargsyan: Ararat is in our hearts; in any Armenian’s house anywhere in the world you’ll find a picture of Ararat, no one can take it away. I believe that time will come when Ararat will be a symbol of understanding between the two nations, not division. However, I’d like to point out the following: neither Armenian government has ever claimed for territories; Turks themselves are ascribing them to us. Maybe, gilt?

Der Spiegel: Armenia’s borders with Turkey and Azerbaijan are closed; Iran and Georgia are in some kind of complicated neighbors; isn’t it a better way to break this isolation?

Serzh Sargsyan: We don’t link the issue of recognition of the Genocide with borders’ opening. And is not our fault that the reconciliation isn’t coming true.

Der Spiegel: Turkey wishes for linking the border’s opening with settlement to the Karabakh conflict. Armenians fought in this inflicted war on the territory that Azerbaijan claimed after USSR’s collapse.

Serzh Sargsyan: Turks want us to compromise. However, this is impossible. Right to self-determination of the people of Nagorno Karabakh is an issue of greatest importance. If Azerbaijan recognizes independence of Nagorno Karabakh, then the issue can be solved in a few hours. Unfortunately, up to now Azerbaijan claims Nagorno Karabakh; while Karabakh’s joining to Azerbaijan means a certain deportation of Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh, and this all just in a very short period.

Der Spiegel: Do you have a solution to this?

Serzh Sargsyan: Why former Yugoslavia’s nations could receive the independence? So why can’t Nagorno Karabakh practice the same right? Is the reason – gas and oil resources of Azerbaijan and Turkey’s patronage? We consider this to be unfair.

http://www.aysor.am/en/news/2010/04/05/president-der-spiegel/

Armenian version http://www.a1plus.am/am/politics/2010/04/5/shpigel
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Der Spiegel Preparing to Make a Few Corrections in Serzh Sargsyan Interview: Spokesperson
12:02 • 05.04.10

Certain inaccuracies have been found in well-known German weekly Der Spiegel’s interview with Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan due to cutting down text and corrections in translation.

Sargsyan, while referring to the Azerbaijani version of the settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, had particularly said the following: “If Azerbaijan recognizes Nagorno-Karabakh’s independence, I think that the issue can be solved in a few hours. Unfortunately, they [Azerbaijan] still think they must return Karabakh. And returning Karabakh to Azerbaijan would mean to completely depopulate Nagorno-Karabakh of Armenians in a short period of time.”

RA President’s Press Secretary Armen Arzumanyan told Tert.am that Der Spiegel’s editorial staff has promised to correct this and a few other inaccurate statements found in the published interview.

http://tert.am/en/news/2010/04/05/interview/

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I will repost the interview of Serzh with Der Spiegel, in my opinion, this version is more accurately translated and less confusing.
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The World Must Respond
06:30 PM | TODAY | POLITICS

Der Spiegel: The world must respond. The President of the Republic of Armenia about historical justice and Ankara's proposal

Full text of the interview of the President of Armenia Serzh Sargsyan to the German Der Spiegel weekly

Der Spiegel: In his interview with Der Spiegel, speaking about the Genocide which had taken place during World War I, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stated that "there can be no talk of genocide." Why cannot your neighboring country come to terms with its own past?

S. Sargsyan: Recently another statement was made that the Turks couldn't have possibly committed the Genocide and the Turkish history is "bright and clear as the sun". The Turks are opposed to the definition of the event as Genocide. However, Ankara is not the one to decide on this issue.

Der Spiegel: Now Erdogan is even threatening to expel thousands of Armenians illegally residing in Turkey.

S. Sargsyan: Unacceptable statements such as that one stir up in our nation the memories of the Genocide. Unfortunately, such statements articulated by the Turkish politicians come as no surprise to me.

Der Spiegel: How should the international community respond?

S. Sargsyan: The international community must respond resolutely. The US, Europe, as well as Germany, all those countries that have been involved in this process of Armenian-Turkish rapprochement should unequivocally state their position. Had all the states recognized the Armenian Genocide by now, the Turks wouldn't talk that way. It is however inspiring that many young people in Turkey stood up against that statement. A new generation is growing in Turkey and the political leadership of that country should reckon with its opinion.

Der Spiegel: Turkey accuses you of maintaining a tough position on setting up a bilateral commission of historians. Why do you oppose the creation of such a commission?

S. Sargsyan: How can such a commission work impartially if in Turkey people are persecuted and tried for a criminal offence if they use the very term Genocide? For Ankara it is important to protract the process of decision-making indefinitely so that when parliaments or governments of other countries undertake the adoption of aresolution on the Genocide recognition, they can say, "don't meddle in, these issues are being sorted out by our historians." Creation of such a commission would have meant casting doubt on the veracity of the Genocide perpetrated against our people. It is unacceptable. Had Turkey admitted its guilt, the creation of the commission would have been justified. In that case the scholars could have studied jointly the causes triggering that tragedy.

Der Spiegel: The Genocide took place 95 years ago. Why its recognition is so important for Armenia?

S. Sargsyan: It is a matter of historical justice and it is also a matter of our national security. The best way to prevent the repetition of such horrendous events is to condemn them unambiguously.

Der Spiegel: From the windows of your office one can see the symbol of Armenia - Mount Ararat. Today, it is on the other side of the border - unreachable. Turkey is afraid of territorial and retribution claims. Do you want Ararat back?

S. Sargsyan: Nobody can take it away from us: Ararat is in our hearts. In every Armenian home, in every corner of the world you will find the image of Mount Ararat. I believe that the time will come when Ararat instead of being the symbol of divide will become the symbol of common understanding between our two nations. However, I would like to clarify the following: no official in Armenia has ever presented any territorial claims to Turkey. The Turks ascribe such claims to us themselves, probably since they have a sense of guilt?

Der Spiegel: Your borders with Turkey and Azerbaijan are closed; Iran and Georgia are difficult neighbors. Won't it be a better trade-off to get a breakthrough in that isolation instead of quarrelling indefinitely with Turkey about the Genocide?

S. Sargsyan: We don't link the Genocide recognition to the opening of borders. And it is not our fault that the rapprochement is not getting through.

Der Spiegel: Turkey wants to link the opening of the border with the progress in the Nagorno Karabakh conflict resolution. The Armenians held up in the war unleashed on that territory towards which Azerbaijan have been laying claims since the break up of the Soviet Union.

S. Sargsyan: Turkey constantly wants us to make concessions, but it is impossible. The most vital issue is the implementation by the people of Nagorno Karabakh of its right to self-determination.
If Azerbaijan recognizes the independence of Nagorno Karabakh, I believe the issue can be solved in a matter of hours. Unfortunately, they still believe that they should bring Nagorno Karabakh back, while returning Nagorno Karabakh back under the control of Azerbaijan would mean that before long Nagorno Karabakh will be rid of all its Armenian population.

Der Spiegel: What kind of solution would you propose?

S. Sargsyan: Why the republics of the former Yugoslavia had been able to become independent? Why, then, should Nagorno Karabakh be denied the same rights? Is it just because Azerbaijan has got some oil and gas and a patron like Turkey? We cannot consider it fair.

http://www.a1plus.am/en/politics/2010/04/5/shpgel

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Gregory Tabatadze: “Armenia is like a second Georgia for me”
[ 2010/04/05 | 13:14 ]
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“As far back as the 6th grade, I told myself that one day I would become an ambassador. Now, I am living out my childhood dream,” says Gregory Tabatadze, Georgia’s Ambassador to Armenia.

He’s been serving in the Georgian diplomatic corps for the past twenty years.

“Let us Georgians have the wine, you Armenians, the cognac, and the Russians, their vodka”

The Ambassador’s father is a winemaker. “For me, being in good spirits, singing, dancing and making noteworthy toasts, are traditions. I respect wine even though I don’t drink much. And I only drink the best around,” Ambassador Tabatadze says.

When selecting a wine, the Ambassador takes the season into account and what he is eating. He says that according to the custom of his forefathers, November-January is the period for red wine, at which time grilled or fried meat dishes are the norm. After Marc, comes the white wine season.

When it comes to Armenian wines, he enjoys Ijevan wines and the Areni brand the best. They have interesting flavors and have a bit more bitter than the Georgian wines.

“Our semi-sweet wines aren’t all that accepted in Europe. You can taste the strength of the soil in Armenian wines. I can say, without any doubt, that your cognac is top-notch. We don’t have its equal. Let us Georgians stick with wine and you Armenians with cognac. The Russians can have their vodka,” the Georgian Ambassador suggests.

The Ambassador’s mother, who passed away in 2002, was a biologist by profession who taught and worked at the Faculty of Parasitical Studies at the Institute of Biology. “She would always joke that she started to study parasites to get to know her youngest child.”

The Ambassador is quick to point out that as a young boy he was never a “parasite” and graduated high school with honors. Born in 1963, he went on to study at the Department of Oriental Studies at Tbilisi State University.

There were three kids in the family. His sister is an artist and his brother is an economist who runs his own business. The brother says the Ambassador is the wealthiest of the lot.

Gregory Tabatadze has never run a business. “I’d never make a good businessman. It’s my humble opinion that it’s better to be alongside those people who work to improve their country and not just themselves.” But the Ambassador doesn’t complain about his salary, in fact, after the Rose Revolution in Georgia, his salary increased seventeen-fold.

“From what I see, Armenians aren’t dissatisfied with their government”

“There is freedom of speech in Armenia and Georgia. What’s lacking a bit is journalistic accountability, but this was even more the case in the past. A reporter must display a level of maturity and responsibility in all matters. We must understand how to utilize the freedoms granted us. In Armenia and Georgia, there are newspapers that are independent and state news outlets,” notes Ambassador Tabatadze.

The Ambassador worked for two years as a reporter with the Georgian “Republic” state paper, covering foreign affairs.

“Those were the final two years of the Soviet Union, when we felt the coming of independence and when we wanted to tell people about the enormous responsibilities we would be facing when it came. You have to craft an independent economy, an army and diplomacy. Sadly, people weren’t reading official papers and all that was hard to grasp,” recounts the former journalist.

The Ambassador said the processes leading towards the building of democratic societies are similar in both Armenia and Georgia.

“The authorities listen to what the people have to say. I would like for the Armenian people to be satisfied with their government. I couldn’t say that the people here are actually dissatisfied with their government. I haven’t seen any complaints regarding socio-economic issues for that matter. I am also satisfied with the policies of the Armenian government towards my country. The relations between Armenia and Georgia are those of two equal and democratic nations. I am happy to be able to represent my country here in Armenia. For me, Armenia is like a second Georgia,” the Ambassador states.

The Ambassador says that there are many similarities between Armenians and Georgians – friendship, respect of elders and women, politeness, concern for ones native town and self-dignity.

“Once, while walking through Tbilisi’s neighborhoods and saw how Armenian and Georgian children were playing together. I thought to myself what a loss it would be to Tbilisi if such sights were to one day vanish.

The difference between the two nations, according to the Ambassador, is that Armenians are more bound to traditions than the Georgians. He actually knows a few Armenian words like, ‘hello’, ‘how do you do?’, ‘welcome’ and ‘slowly’,

“What I really enjoy about Yerevan is that you’ll see the streets full of people. I don’t like the empty streets when I go to various European cities. The same thing is slowly happening in Georgia. I remember how it was in the time of our parents; people would promenade up and down Rustaveli Avenue. I also don’t like it when they destroy old buildings in the name of progress. I can understand that life must forge ahead, but at least they should preserve the facades of these old structures,” the Ambassador states.

Ambassador’s wife has an Armenian grandmother

Ambassador Tabatadze has many Armenian friends, including entrepreneurs and political figures who now hold top government posts here in Armenia. The Ambassador was reluctant to mention any names. “I have friends from Armenia with whom I studied at the University of Cairo. I remember how we passed around packages of soup.”He likes to dine on Armenian ‘dolma and kufteh’, and says the cuisines of the two nations are quite alike.

Ambassador Tabatadze likes to sip a dry red wine as he reads a good book about art. He also has a fondness for guns and the history of weapons. He says he once owned a gun and it was a huge responsibility.

When it comes to art, Ambassador Tabatadze prefers the European impressionists. He also enjoys the work of Martiros Saryan.

The Ambassador’s wife is a musician but isn’t working at the moment. Ambassador Tabatadze says that being the wife of a diplomat is a job by itself. She must attend all sorts of charitable and official functions with the First Lady and the wife of the Foreign Minister.

One of my wife’s grandmothers was Armenian. We are still looking into the ethnic roots of the other.

Ambassador Tabatadze has one daughter who is presently in the United States studying economy and international relations at university. The daughter is also a singer. The Ambassador says he wouldn’t oppose the marriage of his daughter to an Armenian.

“I dream of the day when Georgia will be free of occupying forces and our territorial sovereignty will be restored. I also am concerned about the health and well-being of future generations, concludes Ambassador Tabatadze.

http://hetq.am/en/society/grigori-tabatadze/

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Academician Budag Budagov: “Local authorities are guilty that some geographic names were not changed in post-Soviet period” - INTERVIEW

[ 05 Apr 2010 13:43 ]
Baku. Elbrus Seyfullayev – APA. Chairman of Azerbaijan parliamentary commission on geographic names, Academician Budag Budagov gave an interview to APA.

-What principles guide renaming of geographic places?

-The geographic names are dynamic issue. The process is divided to several parts. First of all newly-built settlements are named. Second, old and non-historic places are renamed. There were 111 places named only after Lenin, many places named after Kirov and others in the Soviet period. The ancient geographic names were forgotten. The parliamentary commission on geographic names addresses the problem of restoration of ancient titles. We are approaching the newly-formed geographic places from the point of historic view and giving them new geographic names in accordance with the contemporary period. The population is rapidly growing in Azerbaijan and new settlements are established. We are addressing the cases introduced by the local authorities of the regions and making decisions led by the historic factors.

-Armenia changed all geographic names related to Azerbaijan. Was it investigated?

-The geographic names have great historic importance. It depends on the language of the people living there. We together with Giyaseddin Geybullayev drew up an explanatory dictionary of the geographic names in Armenia related to Azerbaijan. There are about 5000 Turkic geographic names and almost nothing Armenian. Others names were distorted or translated. For example, Echmiadzeen, It is “Uchmiadzeen”. “Uch” is “three” in Turkic language. “Muadzeen” is a “prayer house” in Arabic. They acknowledge that they were spread over the world like dust and they don’t know where they came from and where they were settled. Armenians’ “from sea to sea” claims are meaningless and ridiculous. Most of the geographic names in Armenia belong to Azerbaijan and it proves that those places also belong to Azerbaijan.

-By the way, Georgia is also changing the Azerbaijani geographic names.

-As distinct from Armenia, Georgia is conducting this process more progressively. We mentioned the changing of Azerbaijani geographic names in Georgia as well. This is their domestic problem. For example Georgia renamed Arakhli to Arakhlo, but Armenia scythed the Azerbaijani names. They began this process in the Soviet time, but couldn’t complete.

-There are some regions in Azerbaijan still saving Soviet geographic names. Why they are not changed?

-Local authorities are guilty that some places were not renamed. They have to -make their proposals that we can rename them. We have no authority to do it without their proposals.

-Is the statistics of geographic names being prepared? How many geographic names are there in Azerbaijan, how many of them must be changed?

-Such a book is being prepared, it will be printed in the parliament. There are geographic names which survival requires time.

-Some days ago the parliament renamed Devechi region as Shabran. It was not approved unanimously. What do you think about it?

-Shabran is a historical city of Azerbaijan. Excavations were carried out there and very valuable things were found. Devechi is a geographic name that does not have history. Earlier, it was called Devechibazar. This renaming is of great importance.

-A lot of new settlements have appeared in Azerbaijan recently. The majority of them are located around Baku and conditionally called “new residential district”. When will these residential districts be named?

-I reiterate that this is in the competence of district executive offices. They must register such districts, write and send to us. Such places should be given modern names. Some executive offices are very passive, they do not write a number of names or send to us. We can not do anything. We do not have right to raise issue. We should protect our geographic names.

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=119191