Armenia and the information war

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Even Russian sources states that in 1900 majority of Yerevan consisted of Azerbaijani Turks. What are you talking about?

I thought the talk was about Artsakh here and not Yerevan so stay on topic or don't you have anything to say.

p.s. Yerevan back then was a big village, the political life was concentrated in Gyumri or Aleksandrapol

[londontsi]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Like Abu Mazen?

No, I think what it means is that the borders can be flexed "a bit" !!

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Armenia and the information war

a little history lesson about Armenia from Strabo's book "Geography":
First about Greater Armenia

Now the Tigris receives from the southernmost parts of Armenia, which are near Babylonia, the water of the melted snows, which is not much, since it comes from the southern side, and this river would therefore be flooded less than the Euphrates; but the Euphrates receives the water from both parts, and not merely from one mountain, but from many, as I made clear in my description of Armenia, where I added the length of that river, giving first the length of its course in Greater Armenia and Lesser Armenia, and secondly its length from Lesser Armenia and Cappadocia through the Taurus as far as Thapsacus, where it forms the boundary between Lower Syria and Mesopotamia, and, thirdly, the rest of its length as far as Babylon and the outlet, a length, all told, of thirty-six thousand stadia. So much, then, for the canals.

second about the region with no mention of azeris

The country of the Babylonians is surrounded on the east by the Susians and Elymaeans and Paraetacenians, and on the south by the Persian Gulf and the Chaldaeans as far as the Mesenian Arabians, and on the west by the Arabians called Scenitae, as far as Adiabenê and Gordyaea, and on the north by the Armenians and the Medes as far as the Zagrus and the tribes about that river.

about Armenia and how its unconquerable

Now as for Adiabenê, the most of it consists of plains; and though it too is a part of Babylonia, still it has a ruler of its own; and in some places it borders also on Armenia. For the Medes and the Armenians, and third the Babylonians, the three greatest of the tribes in that part of the world, were so constituted from the beginning, and continued to be, that at times opportune for each they would attack one another and in turn become reconciled. And this continued down to the supremacy of the Parthians. Now the Parthians rule over the Medes and the Babylonians, but they have never once ruled over the Armenians; indeed, the Armenians have been attacked many times, but they could not be overcome by force, since Tigranes opposed all attacks mightily, as I have stated in my description of Armenia. Such, then, is Adiabenê; and the Adiabeni are also called Saccopodes; but I shall describe Mesopotamia and the tribes on the south, after briefly going over the accounts given of the customs of Assyria.

so wont this mean that Armenia included Artsakh? or is this Armenian propaganda Qaradag?

also how the Araxes separates Armenia and Atropatene.

The summer palace is at Gazaka, situated in a plain; the winter palace is in Vera, a strong fortress which Antony besieged in his expedition against the Parthians. The last is distant from the Araxes, which separates Armenia and Atropatene, 2400 stadia, according to Dellius, the friend of Antony, who wrote an account of the expedition of Antony against the Parthians, which he himself accompanied, and in which he held a command.

[Odar]

Re: Armenia and the information war

No, I think what it means is that the borders can be flexed "a bit" !!

A bit after another bit, and one finds himself "flexing" at 90°...

[Federate]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Կոտրվել են 295 հայկական կայքեր. Smart Systems-ն այժմ փորձում է վերականգնել տուժած կայքերը (թարմացվող)

Շաբաթ, 29 Հունվար 2011 22:29 PCNews.am

Այսօր emPer0rshiP անունով հակերների խումբը կոտրել է Smart Systems-ի սերվերը: 295 հայկական կայքեր, որոնք օգտվում էին ընկերության առաջարկած հոսթինգից, այժմ կոտրված են: Կոտրված կայքերի ցուցակը ներկայացված է ստորև: Իսկ կայքերը մուտք գործելիս հայտնվում է հաղորդագրություն` «Հայերի ստերին մի հավատա»: Չի բացառվում, որ սա թուրք-ադրբեջանական համագործակցության արդյունք է, որովհետև տեսքտի գրելաձևը մասամբ հատուկ է ադրբեջանցինցիներին, իսկ մյուս մասի լեզուն թուրքերեն է:

Այնուհետև գրված է. «Տարիներ շարունակ այս երկրում ազատ ապրել եք: Ստել եք: Մինչև մեր ոտքը չեք տրորել, ձեզ ոչինչ չենք ասել, իսկ դուք այս երկրի զավակներին ցեղասպանության մեջ եք մեղադրել: Ձեր ասածը ի նպաստ ձեզ եք օգտագործել: Բայց անշուշտ մեզ զգացմունքներով չեն ղեկավարում, սրանից հետո այդքան հանգիստ կարող եք չլինել»:

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Հայ հաքերները հասցնում են պատասխան հարվածը. ադրբեջանական կայքը կոտրված է

Կիրակի, 30 Հունվար 2011 00:57 PCNews.am

Հայկական mozambicoArmeniCo հաքերական խումբն, ի պատասխան թուրք-ադրբեջանական հարձակման, կոտրել է http://sulh.az/ կայքը, որը պատկանում է ավտոբիզնեսով զբաղվող խոշոր ընկերությանը: Այս մասին PCNews.am-ին հաղորդեց խմբի անդամներից մեկը:

Կայքում տեղադրված է հետևյալ գրությունը` «Հասնինք Սասուն, մտնինք Վան, Մուշ, Ալաշկերտ, Արդահան...»:

Հիշեցնենք, որ այսօր mPer0rshiP անունով հակերների խումբը կոտրել է Smart Systems-ի սերվերը: 295 հայկական կայքեր, որոնք օգտվում էին ընկերության առաջարկած հոսթինգից, այժմ կոտրված են:

http://pcnews.am/news/google/2067-hack.html

[Federate]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Small note that some of the hacked Armenian websites seem to already be back up, such as the Eurovision website http://eurovision.am/eng/

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Armenians, residing in Nagorno Karabakh, want to live by Azerbaijani laws
Sat 29 January 2011 08:15 GMT | 10:15 Local Time


Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan is well aware that his thoughts are
far from the reality.
He should realize that the sooner the occupied lands of Azerbaijan are
liberated, the better it will be for them, chief of the Azerbaijani
community of Nagorno Karabakh Bayram Safarov said.

Ruling party of Azerbaijan reports that according to Safarov, on the
background of Azerbaijan's rapid development, Armenia is further
weakening.

`Crisis in Armenia will further strengthen. Therefore, people leave
this country, the Armenian population is decreasing. Armenians,
residing in Nagorno Karabakh, want to live by Azerbaijani laws.
Ordinary Armenians witness the development of Azerbaijan and want to
see the same development in their lives. But the leadership of the
occupier-country does not give this opportunity. I think the Armenian
leadership will have to reconcile with it sooner or later. In the face
of Azerbaijan's strengthening might, such people as Sargsyan grow even
meaner', he said.

1news.az

[Davo88]

Re: Armenia and the information war

This is just wishful thinking by the Azerbaijani government...

[Mos]

Re: Armenia and the information war

oh yes the people of karabakh will do anything to have the honour to live under the great wise leader Aliyev...

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Nalbandian forgot to tell about proclaiming Hitler's pals as ‘heroes’
Mon 31 January 2011 06:51 GMT | -2:51 Local Time



Edward Nalbandian
"Murderer of Armenians in Azerbaijan was proclaimed a national hero”, the Armenian FM complained on live broadcast of Russia Today.
In an interview with Russia Today TV channel, Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian expressed regret that ensign Mubariz Ibrahimov, who killed four Armenian servicemen and wounded four more, was posthumously awarded the title of the National Hero by the decree of the Azerbaijani president. "Murderer of Armenians in Azerbaijan was proclaimed a national hero”, the Armenian FM complained on live broadcast of Russia Today.

Azerbaijani military expert Uzeir Jafarov called the statement of the Armenian Minister ‘the evidence of his low intelligence and complete lack of morality’ in an interview to Regnum

"Mubariz Ibrahimov, who sacrificed his life for the liberation of the homeland, is called Azeri Gastello here in Azerbaijan. And we have millions of Ibrahimovs! And what did Nalbandian want? Did he want the prosecutor’s office of Azerbaijan to institute criminal investigation into the brutal murder of Armenian tourists who were catching butterflies in the territory of Azerbaijan, just by mistake having guns in their hands instead of their nets and the uniform of servicemen of other states, except for shorts and flip-flops on them? What would the Russian television viewers think, if Nalbandian complained about the "cruelty" of Alexander Matrosov and "bloodlust" of Panfilovs, who killed the "poor" Germans, and then was surprised that they were awarded the title of the Hero of the Soviet Union, on Russian Today? The Russians probably would have thought that they see a crazy on the TV! It is this way Nalbandian is perceived in Azerbaijan. Armenia will soon call the heroism of our son the ‘continuation of the Armenian genocide’. Yes, Mubariz Ibrahimov is a hero! He is a four-fold hero! He destroyed the enemy in a fair fight in his own trench. It was the armed enemy, not a civilian or a loving couple on a park bench. The enemy, who came to us to kill peasants, tillers, herders. Meanwhile, the bastards who killed women and children in Khojaly, Garadagly, Baganis-Ayrim, are announced ‘heroes’ in Armenia. How many civilians were killed by Nalbandian’s ‘hero’ Monte Melkonian, who served a sentence for terrorism? "

Those three bastards who exploded an underground in Moscow in 1977 are declared martyrs in Nalbandian’s country. Infanticide Andranik, Hitler's pals Njde and Dro were declared ‘heroes’. Meanwhile, Nalbandian does not like the fact that the school, where Ibrahimov studied, was named after him in Azerbaijan. However, cities and settlements are called in Armenia after Stepan Shaumyan, responsible for the genocide of Azerbaijanis in spring-summer 1918! Let Nalbandian tell Russian viewers from the screen of Russia Today that ‘Hilter’s pals Njde and Dro are considered heroes in Armenia’. The Armenian foreign minister will dream of Ibrahimov for long unless he assimilates the truth that those who live by the sword shall die by the sword!

News.Az

http://www.news.az/articles/politics/30566

so much bullxxxx coming from one interview, i think the azeris out did themselves with this. Also i dont get the picture.