Armenia and the information war

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Looks like the brother of protocol fxxkup.

I am always nervous about Serge Sarkisyan.
Do not “trust” him 100%.
Not sure if he writes his own scripts or somebody else (outside forces).

He carries the excess luggage of not being democratically elected thanks to LTP .
He is venerable to political blackmail by the “rulers of the world”.

I am more nervous of all those LTP-like traitors in Armenia and the so-called fake opposition. Serzh Sarkisyan has been the best president Armenia has had until so far. This does not mean he is perfect (nor that he doesn't make some mistakes), but compared to most of the "opposition" he is heaven sent.

I am still wondering when the day will come that Armenians in general will get politically mature, and we don't have to be scared of Armenians wanting to destroy and sell their country. If I look at what happened in the history, it has been under Serzh Sarkisyan and even Kocharian that we improved our army, statehood and sovereignty.

If I look what happened under the rule of LTP, I see the selling of billions of dollars worth of machineries from the Soviet-factories in Armenia for a few million dollars in cash, and even worse, he sold Artsakh to the Turks, but thanks to the Russians, he didn't get away with that so easily.

If the future presidents are AT LEAST as good as our current president, and hopefully each successor will perform better than it's predecessor, Armenia awaits a bright future.

[Mos]

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I am more nervous of all those LTP-like traitors in Armenia and the so-called fake opposition. Serzh Sarkisyan has been the best president Armenia has had until so far. This does not mean he is perfect (nor that he doesn't make some mistakes), but compared to most of the "opposition" he is heaven sent.

I am still wondering when the day will come that Armenians in general will get politically mature, and we don't have to be scared of Armenians wanting to destroy and sell their country. If I look at what happened in the history, it has been under Serzh Sarkisyan and even Kocharian that we improved our army, statehood and sovereignty.

If I look what happened under the rule of LTP, I see the selling of billions of dollars worth of machineries from the Soviet-factories in Armenia for a few million dollars in cash, and even worse, he sold Artsakh to the Turks, but thanks to the Russians, he didn't get away with that so easily.

If the future presidents are AT LEAST as good as our current president, and hopefully each successor will perform better than it's predecessor, Armenia awaits a bright future.

Did you hear about the new political party that was formed, separate from Levon's, because he was in dialogue with the Government? Of course it poses no threat, but still...

But I agree Pres. Sargsyan is the best President we have had so far - let's just hope Armenians understand this come election day...

[Eddo211]

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I also thought it was kind of strange for our president to talk about the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan in this way, during the speech...

Not strange.

What Pres. Sarkisian is really saying is that just because I (Serj) have to show compliance politically with one of the principles (territorial integrity of the other party) during negotiation process by not recognizing the independence of NKR...this doesn't mean that we are not going to do it in heart beat if you get out of line.

In other words what our good President is saying is that if you (Aliyev) if you cannot recognize the right to self determination of Artsakh then pull out of the talks, stop preaching from a document that you don't even recognize its basic principles, now that makes you (Aliyev) look like a fool.....and our President is right.

Forcing Azerbaijan out of the talks would a a strategic win and an advantage for Armenia and NKR.

[Mos]

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Forcing Azerbaijan out of the talks would a a strategic win and an advantage for Armenia and NKR.

In a way what Azerbaijan did at Kazan was just that. They wanted 12 points to be added in, which destroyed the already agreed upon Madrid principles. Just comes to show they are not serious, and the mediators should understand that Azerbaijan is not at all a suitable party for negotiations.

[londontsi]

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Well I interpret it slightly differently.

Our President has made a number of statements on different occasions criticizing
Azerbaijani leadership for not preparing its population for compromises unlike Armenia.

To me that says a lot.

[bell-the-cat]

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In the meantime, we, Armenians, don't even claim Aghdam, which has numerous ancient Armenian monuments on it's territory. Simply PATHETIC! In the future, one should not wonder why we lost the information war...

In the meantime, the future time, or the past time, you, Armenians, could claim even the moon. While these bombastic claims may satisfy the ego of Tigranakert, they mean nothing.

[Tigranakert]

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In the meantime, the future time, or the past time, you, Armenians, could claim even the moon. While these bombastic claims may satisfy the ego of Tigranakert, they mean nothing.

Unfortunately kitty, they do mean something in modern day politics. As xxxx Western people like you don't give a xxxx about justice or human rights, nations like Turkey and Azerbaijan can get away with their crimes, and they are justifying their deeds with lies and falsifications which are becoming bigger everyday.

Historically seen, Armenian territories are under occupation, but history and justice don't mean a thing in this world. Armenians have to realize that it's only might that makes right. Armenians should learn from their European (and Turkish) counterparts, we should become far more aggressive in our policy and should not think of what is "right" or "just", but only of what is beneficial to Armenia and Armenians.

[londontsi]

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I am more nervous of all those LTP-like traitors in Armenia and the so-called fake opposition. Serzh Sarkisyan has been the best president Armenia has had until so far. This does not mean he is perfect (nor that he doesn't make some mistakes), but compared to most of the "opposition" he is heaven sent.

I am still wondering when the day will come that Armenians in general will get politically mature, and we don't have to be scared of Armenians wanting to destroy and sell their country. If I look at what happened in the history, it has been under Serzh Sarkisyan and even Kocharian that we improved our army, statehood and sovereignty.

If I look what happened under the rule of LTP, I see the selling of billions of dollars worth of machineries from the Soviet-factories in Armenia for a few million dollars in cash, and even worse, he sold Artsakh to the Turks, but thanks to the Russians, he didn't get away with that so easily.

If the future presidents are AT LEAST as good as our current president, and hopefully each successor will perform better than it's predecessor, Armenia awaits a bright future.

LTP is not fake opposition. He commands a space in the spectrum of the opposition forces.
He seems to have a loyal following though weakening of late.
Whether you agree with him or not it is a different matter.

I am not nervous of LTP at all. As far as I can judge he is a spent force.
I would go as far to say he is “useful” as a political entity in society to exert force on the authorities to keep to the straight and narrow.
Short of a treasonable/undemocratic action, politically he has a nuisance value, mainly because
his party is all about him and not some ideology or core values say compared to the ARF.

Unfortunately the Presidents we have had have been bad, each to a different degree.

I would call a President good ( including the present one since he still has time to finish his term)
if he can change the unjust economic structures that exist in Armenia to the detriment of the welfare of its people.
I have in mind the oligarchic, monopolistic structures, the “encouragement” of emigration and dependence on foreign remittances to support families, etc.

As far as I am aware this is not even seen as an issue.
Only recently the minister responsible was stating things are not bad at all!!! because the demography of Russia is worse. What a moron.

[Mos]

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In the meantime, the future time, or the past time, you, Armenians, could claim even the moon. While these bombastic claims may satisfy the ego of Tigranakert, they mean nothing.

Given what was once rightly ours and taken from us via genocide, ethnic cleansings, and wars - we have every right to claim what is historically ours in order to fortify the little land that we have left for the rich Armenian nation.

[Federate]

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Aliyev Continues to Revise History

Azeri president Ilham Aliyev

BAKU (APA)—Azeri President Ilham Aliyev, in remarks Tuesday to the World Azerbaijani Congress, claimed that Yerevan and Zangezur were Azeri lands that were “granted” to Armenia, adding that Azerbaijan would spare no effort, including military, to ensure what he called its territorial integrity.

“Armenia knows very well that they are guests in Nagorno-Karabakh. The Armenian state was established in historical Azerbaijani land – Yerevan and Zangazur. The Turkic world was geographically separated, as Zangazur was given to Armenia,” said Aliyev while pledging to continue the talks.

Aliyev added that ensuring Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity is one of the major issues facing the country.

In his speech he noted that international organizations had passed resolutions on the Karabakh problem, which remained unfulfilled because of what he described as Armenia’s “unconstructive position”.

“Yerevan has to understand that Azerbaijan’s potential cannot be compared with Armenia’s capability. Azerbaijan’s economic potential is ten times greater than Armenia’s economic potential. Armenia has no power to compete with Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan’s military expenditure is 50 percent more than Armenia’s budget,” the president said, echoing remarks made in his speech at a military parade on June 26, Armed Forces Day.

http://asbarez.com/96828/aliyev-continues-to-revise-history/