Armenia and the information war

[Vahram]

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Eddo!

We should make Zeplins! Cheap air travel till the day we get our dzov! Air travel is expensive but our only true independent route! We should get together with Russians and Germans as they have a join venture in this regard and make Armenian Zeplins! Too bad my English Armenians is so bad that I have to speak English to make all the Armo's understand what I am saying!

[Eddo211]

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Unfortunently no matter what you make you cannot beat the volume of freight trains and cargo ships at sea.......I like your idea though.

[Armanen]

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Guys I have some serious questions. Now some of my questions might be because I am young and/or I do not have enough knowledge of the geopolitics of Armenia, but it seems difficult for me to understand how you guys attack Bell for stating things that seem common knowledge and common sense to everyone I have ever spoken to. So please, explain your point of view, and let me know what, if anything, I am missing here.

You say that Putin is a strong leader, that the corruption in Russia is because of capitalism, that is comes with capitalism. That however seems insane to me, considering its not that it simply comes with capitalism. Capitalism works fine everywhere else in the world, and corruption is not nearly to the level that it is in Russia and in Armenia. Yes corruption still exists, but to reasonable extends. The free market system is a proven superior system of economics that was promoted by Adam Smith as a means to fight monopolies and oligarchies. Furthermore, it is not like Putin is out there fighting corruption, making it a central part of his policy. If anything, he is fine with it and allows it to flourish. According to Transparency International, Russia is ranked 154th in the world in terms of Corruption. This ranking got worse under Putin. You say that he is a strong leader. However, does that include ending democracy or taking away basic rights. Does being a strong leader, being a "true leader: include denying people basic rights, by controlling the media, by allowing little opposition?

You guys says that he is going to lead Russia to prosperity, that Russia is on the rise. However, the data says otherwise. The population of Russia is expended to dwindle down to 100 million by 2050, the average life expectancy for a male right now is merely 62. These are not facts that show any optimism for the future.

There is often criticism on this forum of Georgia, and their western system. But the fact is that corruption in Georgia is much less significant than in Armenia. In recent years, in Georgia the the business environment has steadily improved, and corruption has steadily decreased, while things have moved in the opposite direction for Armenia who is following the Russian system.

So this leads me to wonder how am I wrong here? What am I missing?
How is Bell being a "hater" or anti-armenian by stating things that are simply facts
Yes Armenia needs Russian military support right now, but that doesnt mean it should simply roll over for Russia and allow the same corrupt and doomed system to take over Armenia. Just because they are good to Armenia right now, doesnt mean we have to accept and respect everything about Russia or its leadership. Just because they help us right now, does not mean that in 5 years they would not stab Armenia in the back if it proves strategically worthwhile to them.

http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

Read this blog and don't fall for bell's provocations.

[Mos]

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This channel in general has some very good videos regarding Pres. Kocharian

http://www.youtube.com/user/2rdam

[londontsi]

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This channel in general has some very good videos regarding Pres. Kocharian

http://www.youtube.com/user/2rdam

In this first video, praises are coming mainly from young women.

Is it because he has "sex appeal" or what.

A few questions to get some perspective.

During which presidency did we suffer the highest emigration.
During which presidency did we (Armenia) have the property bubble.
During which presidency did the incumbent use his position to enrich himself
During which presidency did the national debt had the highest increase.

What type Economic activity gave the people the feel good factor to be followed by a hangover.
Many commentators have commented it was the property bubble and an unbalanced economy which made the following recession one of the worse in the world.

[Tigranakert]

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During which presidency did we suffer the highest emigration.

Levon Ter-Petrosyan

During which presidency did the incumbent use his position to enrich himself

Levon Ter-Petrosyan

During which presidency did the national debt had the highest increase.

We were lucky that during Levon the Destructor, it was not possible for him to obtain significant loans from organizations like the World Bank or IMF, as he xxxxed-up Armenia so bad that we wouldn't even receive loans. Anyways, he plundered the Armenian economy and sold all the factories (billions of worth of equipment sold for some million). I know Iranians who got extremely rich because they bought machines from Levon Ter Petrosyan, machines whose worth was more than millions of dollars, for not more than ten thousand dollars. I still get angry this day when I think about it.

During which presidency did we (Armenia) have the property bubble.

Levon Ter-Petrosyan

It's not even possible to compare a hyena to Levon Ter Petrosyan. He is evil, inside and out. I am amazed at how tolerant and peace loving Armenians are, as in any other country in the world (especially in the West) such a pig would have been either put in prison, or executed. Unfortunately, we haven't learned enough from Europeans!

[londontsi]

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During which presidency did the national debt had the highest increase.

Levon Ter-Petrosyan


We were lucky that during Levon the Destructor, it was not possible for him to obtain significant loans from organizations like the World Bank or IMF, as he xxxxed-up Armenia so bad that we wouldn't even receive loans. Anyways, he plundered the Armenian economy and sold all the factories (billions of worth of equipment sold for some million). I know Iranians who got extremely rich because they bought machines from Levon Ter Petrosyan, machines whose worth was more than millions of dollars, for not more than ten thousand dollars. I still get angry this day when I think about it.

There are many reasons why I dislike LPT.

However I find your assessment hardly objective.

On the one hand you say things were so bad ( and I agree ) that it was not possible to raise loans and on the other hand you are suggesting Armenia’s debt increased most during his tenure.

You almost make him look “good” as far as my question.

[Tigranakert]

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There are many reasons why I dislike LPT.

However I find your assessment hardly objective.

On the one hand you say things were so bad ( and I agree ) that it was not possible to raise loans and on the other hand you are suggesting Armenia’s debt increased most during his tenure.

You almost make him look “good” as far as my question.

Where did I suggest Armenia's debt increased most during his tenure? I didn't put his name under the third line, but gave an explanation why (thank god) it was not possible for him to have a significant influence on Armenia's debt, if so, we would have been totally xxxxed by now. Is it now clear for you?

[londontsi]

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Where did I suggest Armenia's debt increased most during his tenure? I didn't put his name under the third line, but gave an explanation why (thank god) it was not possible for him to have a significant influence on Armenia's debt, if so, we would have been totally xxxxed by now. Is it now clear for you?

In that case my question remains unanswered vis a vi the National dept.

[Serjik]

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In the financial trap that America has set up around the world its unfortunately normal for countries to take loans to build themselves up. Armenia also takes loans from Europe and Russia to balance out as diversification. The problem is not if they are taking loans the problem is how much and from who. right now Armenia doesnt have a loan problem.

In that case my question remains unanswered vis a vi the National dept.