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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by burjuin View Post
    In Armenia since 30th years of 20th century there are two strengthened areas on border with Turkey - № 7 near Gjumri and №9 near Armavir.
    Astonishing that anyone can consider these obsolete 19th century Tsarist-period defenses have a place in modern warfare. In 1918 did they stop the Turks at Erzurum, or Sarikiamish, or Kars, or Alexandropol? Eastern Turkey is littered with these sort of fortified gun-positions, Ottoman and Russian, all of them long abandoned.
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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by ZORAVAR View Post
      First, let us clear a couple of myths:

      Myth 1: Armenians have 2 armies, the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia and the Defense forces of the independent republic of Nagorno-Karabagh.
      In fact, the above applies only for arms limitations and agreements purposes. In practice there is really one army with one central command. For example, an Armenian tank can waive the flag of the Republic of Armenia in the morning, and hoist the flag of NK in the afternoon.
      The above is doing the work of Azeri propagandists. Does your bank account take cheques in Manats?
      Last edited by bell-the-cat; 10-30-2009, 09:57 AM.
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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
        Astonishing that anyone can consider these obsolete 19th century Tsarist-period defenses have a place in modern warfare. In 1918 did they stop the Turks at Erzurum, or Sarikiamish, or Kars, or Alexandropol? Eastern Turkey is littered with these sort of fortified gun-positions, Ottoman and Russian, all of them long abandoned.
        Perhaps you are missing the point.

        You touch them and you get nuked !!
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Thank you very much Zoravar, this is very special content for us to consider.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            In USD, that's 290,072,403.63 million as opposed to last year which was 339,281,114.96 million.
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            Armenia reduces expenses on defense


            Under the 2010 state draft budget, expenses on RA defense will be reduce by AMD 19bln compared with the same figure this year.

            RA Deputy Finance Minister Pavel Safaryan told NEWS.am that defense expenses-GDP ratio will remain unchanged — 3.5%. “Thus, there are no changes in this regard, though certain reduction is registered in total figures,” he underlined. Safaryan stated that AMD 112bln will be allocated to defense sector as compared to AMD 131bln in 2009.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by ZORAVAR View Post
              It has been just over a year since I started this thread and… already 74 pages and 1100 posts, not bad.
              I want to thank all the posters for their contributions in the form of photos, articles and opinions. I would also like to thank the moderators for doing their best to keep this thread clean as much as possible.

              ZORAVAR

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              ZORAVAR, thank you so much for the very informative update.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Federate View Post
                In USD, that's 290,072,403.63 million as opposed to last year which was 339,281,114.96 million.
                So for a population of 3.2 million people, $290,000,000 million is spent on the military? And they claim the economy isn't doing well
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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                  So for a population of 3.2 million people, $290,000,000 million is spent on the military? And they claim the economy isn't doing well
                  Armenian dollar has also more value than Azeri one, since we get a lot of the Russian military hardware at its manufacture price. One of the good aspects of Armeno-Russian alliance.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    So for a population of 3.2 million people, $290,000,000 million is spent on the military? And they claim the economy isn't doing well
                    It has always been like that where we spend among the highest militarily per GDP percentage. We are forced into this position because of the arms race between us and Azerbaijan which spends about 2 billion I believe. To make up for the deficit, our arms are purchased for cheaper and even given to us free of monetary charge while Azerbaijan buys for market price second hand weaponry.
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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Federate View Post
                      It has always been like that where we spend among the highest militarily per GDP percentage. We are forced into this position because of the arms race between us and Azerbaijan which spends about 2 billion I believe. To make up for the deficit, our arms are purchased for cheaper and even given to us free of monetary charge while Azerbaijan buys for market price second hand weaponry.
                      If you look at the big picture, Armenia's GDP is what? roughly 2000 billion DRAMS? That's a lot of coin if you were to divide that up among the population. That's not coming from your average tax payer... that's for sure.
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