Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[haydavid]

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I think, our military is countering to some sort of intelligence information about azery military planning (war initiation?) and forcing azeris to consider their economic cost. It is abvious that azerbaijan may become so intoxicated with its oil wealth that it deviates from oil exporting countie's military doctrines, that is mainly protecting oil productions.
Seriousely, if you copare the economic losses for both of us, azeri losses (targets) could be huge. Our's is mainly the NPP, which can be shut down in a matter of hours and controlling or minimizing the danger.
Azerbaijan, minhwile will come to the same mentality as saudis or quveitis. Trembling over the thought of anybody destroying their oil rigs.

But even with 1/10 with its money , Azeris will still have more than Armenia has .

[burjuin]

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Armenian Army

[arakeretzig]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

But even with 1/10 with its money , Azeris will still have more than Armenia has .

s/azeris/aliyev clan/, the average azeri dont eat much more food or have more cars than the average armenian.

[haydavid]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

s/azeris/aliyev clan/, the average azeri dont eat much more food or have more cars than the average armenian.

I know, you are totally right but what I meant is that they spent 4billion dollars anually , and even if they reduce it to 1/10 it will be 400 million dollars anually , just like us.

[burjuin]

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Defense Army of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.
On the frontline

[HyeFighter2]

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it says russia sold/gave (idk) 84 T72 to Armenia in 1994-96, 31 T72B to Georgia in 1994-95 and 62 T72B to azerbaijan in 2006-07

[Sarkis86]

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it says russia sold/gave (idk) 84 T72 to Armenia in 1994-96, 31 T72B to Georgia in 1994-95 and 62 T72B to azerbaijan in 2006-07

The infograph probably cites the article below. A հրեայ scumbag named lev rokhlin, a former military officer who was elected to the Russian Duma during the Yeltsin era, disclosed that Russia had granted about a billion dollars worth of military aid to Armenia. հրեայ rokhlin made the disclosure in 1997, and he was shot dead in his bed in 1998.

The Washington Times

Thursday, April 10, 1997

Armenia Armed by Russia for battles with Azerbaijan

Scandal compared to Iran-Contra


By: Martin Sieff
The WASHINGTON TIMES

Russia secretly has shipped more than $1 billion worth of arms to Armenia,
apparently to be used against - pro-Western Azerbaijan and - to force the
Azeris -and their strategic oil reserves into Russia's orbit.

Aman Tuleyev, minister for relations with the Commonwealth of Independent
States, has acknowledged that Moscow supplied Armenia with 84 T-72 main
battle tanks, 72 heavy howitzers, 24 Scud missiles with eight launchers,
50 armored personnel carriers and millions of rounds of ammunition.

Lev Rokhlin, the chairman of the Defense Committee of the Duma, the lower
House of the Russian parliament, told a closed Duma session April 2 that
Moscow had -shipped $1 billion worth of weapons to the tough, nationalist
government of President Levon Ter-Petrosian in Yerevan. His report was
similar to Mr. Tuleyev's acknowledgment.

Between 1992 and early 1994, when the conflict was at its height, Russian
heavy transport aircraft were said to have ferried 1,300 tons of
ammunition across the Caucasus to the Armenian capital. Most of the tanks
were flown in aboard giant Antonov planes from the city of Akhtubinsk.

The Azeris say Russia also supplied 1,000 hand-fired Strela-2 and Strela-3
anti-aircraft missiles, which were moved by ship across The Caspian Sea,
then sent over land through Iran to Armenia. Iran has denied playing any
role.

Western intelligence sources said The weapons played a crucial role in
Armenia's, seizure of large areas of Azerbaijan, which created a million
refugees, more than from any other conflict in Europe since World War II.
Although Russia's military support for Armenia in its long conflict with
Azerbaijan has been well-known, the extent of the arms transfers came as a
surprise.

Responding to the revelations, Russian President Boris Yeltsin ordered a
major government probe Saturday that could implicate his longtime defense
minister, Marshal Pavel Grachev who was fired last spring.

Russian military prosecutors are considering calling Marshal Grachev in
for questioning over the scandal, which has been compared to The
Iran-Contra affair.

The- chairman of the Azeri parliament, Murtuz Alesketov, said Saturday the
arms shipments could destabilize the Caucasus. "If these arms are not
returned, this could lead to a new large-scale war in the region" he said
at parliamentary hearings in Baku.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991, Shi'ite Muslim
Azerbaijan has eagerly courted American oil companies to help it develop
the immense oil and gas reserves of the Caspian Sea, estimated as second
in size and value only to those in the Persian Gulf.

Russia has responded by backing Orthodox Christian Armenia, its historic
ally.

On March 29, shortly after Mr. Yeltsin's Helsinki summit with President
Clinton, the Russian leader finalized a treaty of friendship and strategic
partnership with Mr. Ter-Petrosian.

The move came after Mr. - Ter-Petrosian alarmed Azerbaijan by appointing
The hard-line leader of ethnic Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh, a region of
Azerbajjan, as prime minister of Armenia, a move widely regarded as paving
the way for a renewed attack on Azerbaijan.

There are at least 20,000 Russian 4th Army troops in Armenia concentrated
around three major bases.

Ivan Rybkin, head of Russia's Security Council, said after a meeting in
Moscow with Mr. Ter-Petrosian on March 27 that the new bilateral treaty
would have a "military component", the Moscow newspaper Nezavisimaya
Gazeta reported March 28.

Some Moscow analysts believe that Defense Minister Igor Rodionov and his
supporters leaked details of the arms deals now to prevent Mr. Yeltsin
from bringing back Marshal Grachev as chief military inspector at the
Defense Ministry, the independent Moscow newspaper Segodnya said.

http://www.oocities.org/capitolhill/5078/arms1.htm

[HyeFighter2]

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very good article, thx, would be nice if russia would arm Armenia as west did with georgia (modern arms) than we will take oil

[Federate]

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The infograph probably cites the article below. A հրեայ scumbag named lev rokhlin, a former military officer who was elected to the Russian Duma during the Yeltsin era, disclosed that Russia had granted about a billion dollars worth of military aid to Armenia. հրեայ rokhlin made the disclosure in 1997, and he was shot dead in his bed in 1998.

From the article Sarkis linked:

"Lev Rokhlin, the chairman of the Defense Committee of the Duma, the lower
House of the Russian parliament, told a closed Duma session April 2 that
Moscow had -shipped $1 billion worth of weapons to the tough, nationalist
government of President Levon Ter-Petrosian in Yerevan. His report was
similar to Mr. Tuleyev's acknowledgment."

[HyeFighter2]

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i believe that levon sold 50% of that vehicles, he also jhud akhtoti mege