Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[londontsi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Remember this? From 1 year ago. http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....788#post333788

http://razm.info/6752

[Federate]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Thanks Federate, that makes sence.

I wanted to compare with the specs of what the baboons have got.

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Where does the PHL03 fit into this

AR1A is the export version of the PHL03.

[Federate]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/ar1a.htm


Is this what the Azeris got

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/9a52_4.htm

No, Azeris got BM-30 Smerch.

[Federate]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

HUH? I don't think Armen Ashotyan knows the difference between WM-80 and AR1A...
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Հայաստանը չինական AR1A հրթիռային համալիրներ ունեցել է դեռևս 2011 թվականից

ՀՀ ԿԳ նախարար Արմեն Աշոտյանը Facebook-ի իր էջում գրել է.

«Պարզվում է, Հայաստանը ունեցել է չինական AR1A հրթիռային համալիրներ դեռևս 2011 թվականից: Նրանցից մի քանիսը ցուցադրվել են Հայաստանի Անկախության 20-ամյակին նվիրված զորահանդեսին: Ցավոք, ինչպես հաճախ է լինում, մեր ունեցածը գնահատելու համար մեզ երբեմն երկար ժամանակ է հարկավոր:

Թե չէ` Ադրբեջան, ՍՄԵՐՉ, 2013, եսիմ ինչ...

Հայրենիքիս պաշտպանությունը հուսալի ձեռքերում է»

http://www.1in.am/arm/armenia_society_207602.html

[londontsi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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Since we are entitled to buy this staff at discount prices why do we have to buy from the Chinese.

Is it because of price advantage, specification or we have quotas of what we can or cannot buy.


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[gokorik]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

I don't believe Russia offers a MRL sytem with a range around 130km. I believe Russia is currently working on extending the range of the Smerch series missiles past 100km but maybe it will be availabe too late. As in, it would arrive after the next war. That's my guess.

[Joseph]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

http://asbarez.com/113010/armenia-to-acquire-advanced-chinese-rockets/

YEREVAN (RFE/RL)—Armenia has acquired Chinese multiple-launch rocket systems with a firing range of up to 80 miles, a military source in Yerevan told RFE/RL’s Armenian service (Azatutyun.am) on Monday.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, the source declined to specify the quantity of the AR1A systems obtained by the Armenian military and the dates of their delivery or give other details of the alleged acquisition.
The Armenian Defense Ministry, for its part, refused to confirm or refute the information. “Armenia’s armed forces are constantly supplied with new weapons and increase their combat readiness,” the ministry spokesman, Artsrun Hovannisian, told RFE/RL’s Armenian service. “We have clear plans of arms acquisitions and are adhering to them.”
AR1A, which China first demonstrated in 2009, is a long-range artillery system designed to attack concentrations of troops, command centers and important ground targets. Military experts say that it has many technological similarities with the Russian Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems, one of the most destructive weapons of its kind. Smerch rockets can hit targets up to 90 kilometers (55 miles) away.
Eighteen Smerch systems are reportedly among the $1 billion worth of new offensive weapons that Russia began delivering to Azerbaijan earlier this year. Armenian politicians and pundits have singled out this weapon in their strong criticisms of the Russian arms sales to Baku. The latter also purchased a dozen Smerch systems from Ukraine in the mid-2000s.
The nearest equivalent to the Russian rockets that Armenia has been known to possess until now are Chinese-made WM-80 multiple-launch systems with a firing range of up to 80 kilometers (50 miles). The Armenian military is thought to have acquired them in the late 1990s.
Chinese-Armenian military ties appear to have deepened in the last few years. Beijing and Yerevan signed in January 2012 what the Armenian Defense Ministry called an “agreement on military and military-technical cooperation.”

[Eddo211]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

http://asbarez.com/113010/armenia-to...inese-rockets/

YEREVAN (RFE/RL)—Armenia has acquired Chinese multiple-launch rocket systems with a firing range of up to 80 miles, a military source in Yerevan told RFE/RL’s Armenian service (Azatutyun.am) on Monday.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, the source declined to specify the quantity of the AR1A systems obtained by the Armenian military and the dates of their delivery or give other details of the alleged acquisition.
The Armenian Defense Ministry, for its part, refused to confirm or refute the information. “Armenia’s armed forces are constantly supplied with new weapons and increase their combat readiness,” the ministry spokesman, Artsrun Hovannisian, told RFE/RL’s Armenian service. “We have clear plans of arms acquisitions and are adhering to them.”
AR1A, which China first demonstrated in 2009, is a long-range artillery system designed to attack concentrations of troops, command centers and important ground targets. Military experts say that it has many technological similarities with the Russian Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems, one of the most destructive weapons of its kind. Smerch rockets can hit targets up to 90 kilometers (55 miles) away.
Eighteen Smerch systems are reportedly among the $1 billion worth of new offensive weapons that Russia began delivering to Azerbaijan earlier this year. Armenian politicians and pundits have singled out this weapon in their strong criticisms of the Russian arms sales to Baku. The latter also purchased a dozen Smerch systems from Ukraine in the mid-2000s.
The nearest equivalent to the Russian rockets that Armenia has been known to possess until now are Chinese-made WM-80 multiple-launch systems with a firing range of up to 80 kilometers (50 miles). The Armenian military is thought to have acquired them in the late 1990s.
Chinese-Armenian military ties appear to have deepened in the last few years. Beijing and Yerevan signed in January 2012 what the Armenian Defense Ministry called an “agreement on military and military-technical cooperation.”

Good manoeuver by Yerevan.
Armenia's security comes first.....if we must go Chinese to match the Russian Smerch sold to Azeris then so be it.

[Federate]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

I don't believe Russia offers a MRL sytem with a range around 130km. I believe Russia is currently working on extending the range of the Smerch series missiles past 100km but maybe it will be availabe too late. As in, it would arrive after the next war. That's my guess.

Nice point.

You know, it's possible that Russia actually gave the green light for this deal to happen and we might be letting them check the systems out so they can get a hands on approach as to what the Chinese have done without Russia having to publicly do so by buying the system themselves (saving face). We might be helping them extend the Smerch's or any of its replacement MRLS' ranges via the AR1A.

[Eddo211]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Nice point.

You know, it's possible that Russia actually gave the green light for this deal to happen and we might be letting them check the systems out so they can get a hands on approach as to what the Chinese have done without Russia having to publicly do so by buying the system themselves (saving face). We might be helping them extend the Smerch's or any of its replacement MRLS' ranges via the AR1A.

You think Russia setup the deal from beginning? I won't be surprised. I hope we know what we are doing and I pray I am wrong when I say

Russia ups the ante in NKR betting with Armenian lives.