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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Ak105 View Post

    What ever happened to that submachine gun? Honestly id like to see it enter service
    It will be good for clearing rooms......but I would still want my AK.
    B0zkurt Hunter

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Chubs View Post
        Azerbaijani air base near Baku. Looks like they have fortified bunkers to house their MiGs. Problem for ballistic missile?:


        No....They scared of crazy pilots like me who can get through the Azeri air defenses with SU-25 and destroy everyone of those Migs in two different quick low level runs the way they are parked in photo.
        B0zkurt Hunter

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
          No....They scared of crazy pilots like me who can get through the Azeri air defenses with SU-25 and destroy everyone of those Migs in two different quick low level runs the way they are parked in photo.
          how far is it for an armenian su-25 from there? the only usable airport is in yerevan afaik, which means 200km to iranian border, from there it's 300km straight to baku along the iranian border. Say you fly low and can avoid air defenses(realistic?), can you make it back with the same fuel considering the distance? It sounds like a suicide mission.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
            how far is it for an armenian su-25 from there? the only usable airport is in yerevan afaik, which means 200km to iranian border, from there it's 300km straight to baku along the iranian border. Say you fly low and can avoid air defenses(realistic?), can you make it back with the same fuel considering the distance? It sounds like a suicide mission.
            Realistic? Its suicidal and impossible. Can we not discuss something as dumb as this?
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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
              how far is it for an armenian su-25 from there? the only usable airport is in yerevan afaik, which means 200km to iranian border, from there it's 300km straight to baku along the iranian border. Say you fly low and can avoid air defenses(realistic?), can you make it back with the same fuel considering the distance? It sounds like a suicide mission.
              need to do calculation....the SU-25 will take off from Artsakh kissing the Iranian border.

              1- if Iran would be willing to provide landing field and fuel then the chances of making it back is greatly increased and more bombs can be carried instead of fuel.
              2- if no then the SU-25 should have enough fuel (drop tanks) to make it to the target and destroy it (from that photo a nice tear drop approach gives you two runs over it) and from then hit the deck (SU-25 can reach Mach1 when clean and light), fly north (they won't expect that) and defect to Russia or Georgia.
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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                New Liquid Body Armour Is Finally Ready For The Frontline



                Scientists at a Polish company that produce body armor systems are working to implement a non-Newtonian liquid in their products.

                The liquid is called Shear-Thickening Fluid (STF). STF does not conform to the model of Newtonian liquids, such as water, in which the force required to move the fluid faster must increase exponentially, and its resistance to flow changes according to temperature. Instead STF hardens upon impact at any temperature, providing protection from penetration by high-speed projectiles and additionally dispersing energy over a larger area.

                "This viscosity increases thanks to the subordination of the particles in the liquid structure, therefore they form a barrier against an external penetrating factor," said Karolina Olszewska, who performed tests on the STF for Moratex.

                The exact composition of the STF is known only to Moratex and its inventors at the Military Institute of Armament Technology in Warsaw, but ballistic tests proved its resistance to a wide range of projectiles.

                "We needed to find, design a liquid that functions both with projectiles hitting at the velocity of 450 meters per second and higher. We have succeeded," said Deputy Director for Research at the Moratex institute, Marcin Struszczyk.

                Struszczyk said the liquid's stopping capability, combined with the lower indentation of its surface, provides a higher safety level for the user compared with traditional, mostly Kevlar-based, solutions.

                "If a protective vest is fitted to the body, then a four centimeter deep deflection may cause injury to the sternum, sternum fracture, myocardial infarction, lethal damage to the spleen," Struszczyk said.

                "Thanks to the properties of the liquid, thanks to the proper formation of the insert, we eliminate one hundred percent of this threat because we have reduced the deflection from four centimeters to one centimeter."

                When hit by a high-speed projectile, a wide area of the STF hardens instantly, causing the usually massive energy to be dispersed away from the wearer's internal organs.

                Implementing the solution in body armor required designing special inserts, but the company says those are lighter than standard ballistic inserts and broader range of movement for their users in the police and military.

                "The point is for them not to interfere, not change the way of movement, operation of such the product by the user, and at the same time increase their motor skills, increase effectiveness of their decision process and increase their possibilities during the mission at hand," Struszczyk said.

                The laboratory is also working on a magnetorheological fluid, which they hope can be also applied in their products.

                According to the researchers, both liquids can find applications beyond body armor, such as in the production of professional sports inserts, and even entire outfits. Another use could be in car bumpers or road protective barriers.

                Video available if you follow link.
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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  April 10, 2015 12:49
                  Artsrun Hovhannisyan - Retaliation against Azerbaijan fraught with war

                  In case Armenia decides to revenge the losses of its soldiers on Azerbaijan based on the principle “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth”, a large-scale war will break out the very next day, claiming thousands of lives, says the Defense Ministry’s spokesperson.


                  STEPANAKERT, APRIL 10, ARTSAKHPRESS։ Artsrun Hovhannisyan made the statement at a news conference on Friday as he was asked to comment on Armenia’s somewhat passive reaction to the acts of agression provoked by the adversary.

                  “The impact is this: what you regret for - that is, the victims and the wounded – and would like to reduce the number of is not unfortunately something anyone can practically achieve. It is strange to me … that the Armenian nation is not willing to recognize the neighboring state with its authorities,” he said.

                  Armine Sadikyan, a coordinator of peace projects at the Helsinki Citizens’ Assembly, warned against attributing the losses in the military only to the violations of ceasefire, noting that the fatalities caused by such violations accounted only for 25% of deaths from 2010 until 2014. She said that the number rose to 50% only after intensive acts of sabotage along the frontline since August.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
                    how far is it for an armenian su-25 from there? the only usable airport is in yerevan afaik, which means 200km to iranian border, from there it's 300km straight to baku along the iranian border. Say you fly low and can avoid air defenses(realistic?), can you make it back with the same fuel considering the distance? It sounds like a suicide mission.
                    You cannot avoid air defense even if you fly low level. There is EL/M-2080 Green Pine for that.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Federate View Post
                      It's official guys, Armenia has Igla-S (SA-24). We ordered 200 missiles and 50 missile launchers from Russia in 2012 and received them all in 2013 per http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade...e_register.php and http://www.un-register.org/HeavyWeap...rts.aspx?CoI=9

                      Igla-S is the most advanced of the Igla MANPADS series and it was what Azerbaijan used to down our helicopter.

                      The UN arms register all but confirms the 35 tanks and 110 armored combat vehicles we bought and received from Russia too.
                      another information says it was new Russian ATGM 50 Launchers with 200 missiles

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