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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Tsov View Post
    What do you guys make of this? What can the Turkish army do for the Azers?

    Turkey Wants Azeri Army at ‘NATO Standards’

    BAKU—Azerbaijan’s closest strategic ally, Turkey has once again voiced its ultimate support for its neighboring country. This time Ankara revealed the newest aspiration of its military cooperation with Baku – the Turkish leadership wants the Azerbaijani army to reach the “best international standards.”

    “We want the Azerbaijani armed forces to advance to the level of NATO standards,” Turkish Ambassador to Baku, Ismail Alper Coskun said.

    Assessing the ongoing joint military drills with Azerbaijani and Turkish troops in Baku and in Nakhijevan, Coskun told local media that Turkey cooperates tightly with Azerbaijan in the field of military along with many other spheres.

    “Over the last few years we have conducted similar military exercises. The main goal is to contribute to Azerbaijan’s development in this field. The Turkish army is one of the strongest in NATO. Moving forward with our military cooperation we want to make our contribution to brother country Azerbaijan’s military,” Coskun said.
    http://asbarez.com/blog/archives/136085

    This statement was made by the Turkish Ambassador in Baku.

    Ambassadors do not participate in such decision making meetings since they do not know which side of the gun a bullet comes out of.

    He was either told what to say, in which case why didn't it come from the decision makers such as MOD +FM etc

    OR the usual political BS Ambassadors have to do to refresh the image of their presence on the political playing field.


    PS Similar statements have been made in the past.
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    Last edited by londontsi; 05-14-2015, 11:06 PM.
    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
      For now training.

      In case of restart of full scale war on Artsakh then Turkey can:
      AWAC support. they can pin point our positions and movements.
      Send Islamist extremist who want us destroyed and help their Muslim brothers.
      Could send in some special forces.
      Could fly some of their aircraft.
      Political support.

      As a NATO member they are not suppose to get directly involved......not to mention (the real reason) Russia won't allow it.

      Not good.....maybe our complain about Turkey helping Azerbaijan to NATO might stop some of the above items such as AWAC
      Deploying of Turkish satellites to track our troops is catastrophic,our only hope would be Russia or perhaps Iran if they don't want to get involved directly they can Atleast help us with some strategic stuff like such

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by argin View Post
        Deploying of Turkish satellites to track our troops is catastrophic,our only hope would be Russia or perhaps Iran if they don't want to get involved directly they can Atleast help us with some strategic stuff like such
        Turkey has had the capability of low orbit satellites, GoTurk 1 and 2 for a number of years.

        They do not need to tell anybody whether they provide images to the Azeri or not.

        Azerbaijan has also expressed its wish ( a few years back ) to have its own low orbit satellite.
        Do no know how far that has progressed.

        The USSR and Russia have been able to survive with prying eyes.
        There exists cheap technology of camouflage and deception through dummies etc.

        Armenia Azerbaijan war ( if it happens ) will not happen along thousands of miles.
        You do not need satellites to know where the enemy positions are etc.
        Special forces and UAV can provide quick response data for significant deployment such as Smerch etc.

        Serious war will result in very small movements initially.
        If the defence lines break satellite images wont help because that would mean near capitulation of the front line.

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        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army
          On the frontline







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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            The Police Force of Armenia carried out professional and tactical exercises in Metsamor city, in the area of the nuclear power plant.






            Last edited by burjuin; 05-15-2015, 03:16 AM.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              The Police Force of Armenia carried out professional and tactical exercises in Metsamor city, in the area of the nuclear power plant







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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Armenian ‘Rapid Reaction’ Troops Join Drills In Central Asia
                By MassisPost Updated: May 15, 2015 Armenian -Rapid Reaction-Troops



                YEREVAN — An Armenian army unit was flown to Tajikistan on Thursday to take part in exercises that will be held there by a rapid reaction force of the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO).

                The CSTO secretariat in Moscow announced that the exercises will take place near Tajikistan’s border with Afghanistan and involve 2,500 soldiers from all six CSTO member states making up the alliance’s Collective Operational Reaction Forces (CORF). In a statement, it said they will be backed by 200 tanks and armored vehicles as well as 20 warplanes and helicopters.

                The participating troops reportedly include about 500 paratroopers from Russia.

                The CSTO statement did not specify whether the drills are directly connected with security threats to Tajikistan emanating from Afghanistan. It said only that they follow a “sudden examination” of the CORF’s combat readiness.

                The Armenian Defense Ministry reported that as part of that examination an Armenian contingent of the rapid reaction force was put on high alert on Wednesday. An Armenian military transport plane flew it to the Central Asian republic the following day.

                A ministry statement did not disclose the number of Armenian soldiers that will join the drills.

                The CORF was set up by Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan at Moscow’s initiative in 2009. The Russian side pledged at the time to supply the NATO-style force with modern weapons.
                YEREVAN -- An Armenian army unit was flown to Tajikistan on Thursday to take part in exercises that will be held there by a rapid reaction force of the

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  The Police Force of Armenia carried out professional and tactical exercises in Metsamor city, in the area of the nuclear power plant





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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Since this thread is becoming more and more an Armenian police thread I thought ill join in on the fun
                    Mothers of Dead Soldiers Attacked and Provoked by Armenian Police
                    5-13-15

                    On Wednesday, May 13, a group of police officers used violence to pull the parents of soldiers who died in the Armenian army in non-combat conditions away from the gates of the Residence of the RA President; the parents had organized a protest action, demanding a meeting with Armenian president Serzh Sargsyan.

                    Note that the parents have been prohibited from holding demonstrations in front of the presidential residence since February 11, 2015, when law enforcement officers forcibly removed the mothers from in front of the gates. The protesting parents have since tried several times to approach the residence but met heavy resistance from police.

                    Today, the police officers were surprised to see the parents in front of the gates of the residence; they formed a barricade behind the parents and started making phone calls. Afterwards, they forcibly moved the parents across the street. One of the officers, a senior lieutenant by rank, pulled and pushed Nana Muradyan, mother of Valery Muradyan who died in the Army in 2010, then – Irina Ghazaryan, mother of Artur Ghazaryan who died in the same year, moving the women to the opposite side of the street.

                    Meanwhile, the police provoked the mothers: they discreetly hit them, squeezing their arms and torso, and when the parents tried to defend themselves, the law enforcement officers loudly demanded "not to hit the police."

                    When on the opposite sidewalk, one of the officers said that the mothers came to "make a show", which aroused the indignation of the protesters. Later, the mothers went to the police for referral to a forensic expert.



                    So heroic...

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                      Turkey has had the capability of low orbit satellites, GoTurk 1 and 2 for a number of years.

                      They do not need to tell anybody whether they provide images to the Azeri or not.

                      Azerbaijan has also expressed its wish ( a few years back ) to have its own low orbit satellite.
                      Do no know how far that has progressed.

                      The USSR and Russia have been able to survive with prying eyes.
                      There exists cheap technology of camouflage and deception through dummies etc.

                      Armenia Azerbaijan war ( if it happens ) will not happen along thousands of miles.
                      You do not need satellites to know where the enemy positions are etc.
                      Special forces and UAV can provide quick response data for significant deployment such as Smerch etc.

                      Serious war will result in very small movements initially.
                      If the defence lines break satellite images wont help because that would mean near capitulation of the front line.

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                      That's a good insight thank you

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